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'Good without God' billboards now up in Sacramento...
http://www.examiner.com/x-8947-LA-Atheism-Examiner~y2010m2d11-Good-without-God-billboards-now-up-in-Sacramento ^ | Feb 11th, 2010

Posted on 02/12/2010 11:47:26 AM PST by TaraP

"Are you good without God? Millions are" is the message on 10 new billboards in the Sacramento, CA area. The billboards, which are part of a nationwide campaign that began last year, were put up by the Sacramento Area Coalition of Reason. It's an umbrella organization for a variety of groups including the First Atheist Church of True Science, Humanist Association of the Greater Sacramento Area, Sacramento Area Skeptics, and Atheists and Other Freethinkers.

Sponsors of the "good without God" billboards say it's not an attack on theism but, instead, a message directed to their own community.

"It's a way of reaching out to people," said Fred Edwords, national director of United Coalition of Reason (quoted in the Sacramento Bee). "Many folks who think like us think they are the only ones." "We non-theists are your family members, friends, neighbors and co-workers," said Rachael Harrington, coordinator of the Sacramento group, in a news release. "We're just like you, except we don't believe in a supreme being. It's about time we were equally free to be open about our views."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antitheism; atheistsupremacists; marx; religiousintolerance; talibatheists
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1 posted on 02/12/2010 11:47:26 AM PST by TaraP
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To: TaraP

I expect an earthquake soon.


2 posted on 02/12/2010 11:48:00 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: All
Each and every day we see SIGNS of the *LAST DAYS*
3 posted on 02/12/2010 11:48:19 AM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: TaraP
First Atheist Church

Allrighty then.

4 posted on 02/12/2010 11:48:25 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: TaraP

Atheism is most definitely a religion and they are proselytizing.


5 posted on 02/12/2010 11:49:50 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: TaraP
"We're just like you, except we don't believe in a supreme being. It's about time we were equally free to be open about our views."

Another poor oppressed minority...give me a break!

6 posted on 02/12/2010 11:50:05 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: TaraP

If humanity knew how truly good God is, then the entire idea that they can be good apart from Him would be seen as a hellish joke.


7 posted on 02/12/2010 11:50:05 AM PST by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: TaraP

Infidels.


8 posted on 02/12/2010 11:50:18 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: TaraP

If God truly doesn’t exist, then they have nothing to worry about. They can do anything they want without answering to anyone. But.....God help them if they’re wrong.


9 posted on 02/12/2010 11:50:23 AM PST by RC2
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To: TaraP

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Most people just think they’re good.


10 posted on 02/12/2010 11:50:49 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: TaraP

I don’t believe them.


11 posted on 02/12/2010 11:51:07 AM PST by pallis
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To: Thane_Banquo

People balk at the idea of being heavenly.


12 posted on 02/12/2010 11:51:11 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Thane_Banquo

In support of your post...

The question, in response to any proclamation of “goodness” is

“by whose standard?”


13 posted on 02/12/2010 11:51:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: TaraP

Does it mean they are happy/satisfied, without God? Or does it mean they are good people, even without God?


14 posted on 02/12/2010 11:51:43 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Funny thing is they dopn’t even know what *GOOD* is.

I am sure they think a Ravenous Homosexual who smokes Pot all day but works at the Soup Kitchen is *GOOD* millions like him are.....
Sad times..:(


15 posted on 02/12/2010 11:51:53 AM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: TaraP
"We're just like you, except we don't believe in a supreme being. It's about time we were equally free to be open about our views."

Except that we are not EQUALLY free - Christianity is being (has been) assailed from all directions an in all quarters of life. It has gotten to the point where WE are not allowed to have any discussion in public regarding God, Jesus, the Bible, etc, without risking condemnation or even arrest (e.g., the man arrested for talking about God to three people in a Mall in an area where such "free speech" was suppose to be permitted).

16 posted on 02/12/2010 11:52:57 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: TaraP
"Are you good without God? Millions are" is the message on 10 new billboards in the Sacramento, CA area.

"Good" is a moral evaluation. So by what standard do they make the definitive claim that millions are "good"? Given the rejection of an objective moral authority all they can do is appeal to their personal preference. So is Jeffery Dahlmer "good" if he thinks so from his personal preference?

17 posted on 02/12/2010 11:53:07 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: TaraP

It is sickening that the atheists have successfully hijacked the terms “humanists” and “reason”.


18 posted on 02/12/2010 11:53:14 AM PST by C19fan
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To: stuartcr

Their obvious insinuation is that only the dweebs, the contemptible, the feckless “need God” to be “good.” The rest just go on boldly “being good.” It’s the devil’s old fantasy.


19 posted on 02/12/2010 11:54:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: JennysCool

I’m just curious, if you were an atheist why would you spend tens of thousands of dollars promoting atheism unless you were against God and people that choose to worship?

Seems to me that in California and Sacramento we’ve seen exactly where this has gotten them.

You have a bankrupt state, promotion of legalized drugs, destruction of the nuclear family by government intervention of more kinds than I can count, hordes of illegal aliens draining the system that “must” be supported because of “humanitarian” concerns and promotion of homosexual marriage and liestyle (Yes, that is not a typo.).

It seems to me that millions of people are not okay without God and instead placing their values on the goodwill and subjective morality of humanists.


20 posted on 02/12/2010 11:54:20 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: stuartcr

People are not *GOOD* We are all Wretched Flawed Sinners in need of redemption..

Jesus said who is GOOD...

MARK 10:18

Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone.


21 posted on 02/12/2010 11:54:24 AM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: TaraP

Are you healthy without exercise? Millions are.


22 posted on 02/12/2010 11:54:33 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: TaraP

Maybe somebody can put up billboards with Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler labeled “BAD WITHOUT GOD”.


23 posted on 02/12/2010 11:54:49 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: TaraP
"We're just like you, except we don't believe in a supreme being. It's about time we were equally free to be open about our views."

2 PETER 3

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

24 posted on 02/12/2010 11:56:00 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: highlander_UW
"Good" is a moral evaluation. So by what standard do they make the definitive claim that millions are "good"?

2004 Interview: Obama Talks about Jesus, Heaven and Sin June 3, 2008 (CBN)

GG: Do you believe in sin?

OBAMA: Yes.

GG: What is sin?

OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.

GG: What happens if you have sin in your life?

OBAMA: I think it’s the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I’m true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I’m not true to it, it’s its own punishment.”


25 posted on 02/12/2010 11:56:54 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: TaraP

I wonder what drives their need to convince others that there is no God?


26 posted on 02/12/2010 11:56:59 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: TaraP

Good without God is simply “0”.


27 posted on 02/12/2010 11:57:09 AM PST by i_dont_chat (We have a cultural crisis–not a heath-care crisis.)
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To: TaraP

We need some “Good without Obama” billboards.


28 posted on 02/12/2010 11:57:10 AM PST by MarkeyD (I support the Secret Service but not their mission.)
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To: Ben Mugged

Fundamentalist Atheism


29 posted on 02/12/2010 11:58:22 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: a fool in paradise

What a flim flam.


30 posted on 02/12/2010 11:58:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: MarkeyD

Charitable Without Socialism!


31 posted on 02/12/2010 11:58:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: TaraP
"Are you good without God? Millions are"...

Well, bless their little pointy heads.

I hope they like the weather nice and hot. ;-)

32 posted on 02/12/2010 11:59:18 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: a fool in paradise
I must have missed that interview at the time.

OBAMA: I think it’s the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I’m true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I’m not true to it, it’s its own punishment.”

There is firm proof he's not a Christian. That's a humanist response, not a Christian one.

33 posted on 02/12/2010 11:59:21 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: highlander_UW
"So is Jeffery Dahlmer "good" if he thinks so from his personal preference?"

He's goo dand dead now, thanks to some fellow prisoners who saw what he really was......

34 posted on 02/12/2010 11:59:29 AM PST by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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To: Ben Mugged

EVIL DOES.....

We are now in a *Battle* of all battles...

SATAN VS GOD...For the Souls of MAN...

Of course we know GOD wins, but many men won’t...

This is why GOD is so patient, and why we as Christians have to do the will of GOD, because GOD desires that none perish in these very perilous times on earth....


35 posted on 02/12/2010 11:59:34 AM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: a fool in paradise
Seems to me they are trying to get the message out that "you are not alone in your beliefs".

Ironically the same message as the Bible.

36 posted on 02/12/2010 12:00:41 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: TaraP

“Are you good without God? Millions are”

I suppose they are...for the moment...


37 posted on 02/12/2010 12:00:45 PM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: TaraP

Good without God???

By whose standards?


38 posted on 02/12/2010 12:00:57 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: sniper63
He's goo dand dead now, thanks to some fellow prisoners who saw what he really was......

Even prisoners have standards.

39 posted on 02/12/2010 12:01:12 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: sniper63
He's goo dand dead now, thanks to some fellow prisoners who saw what he really was......

That's a shame...it should have been done by the "justice" system.

40 posted on 02/12/2010 12:02:15 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: TaraP
So as we are moved by God, they are moved by Lucifer?

I've never known Lucifer to be that obvious.

41 posted on 02/12/2010 12:02:55 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: Ben Mugged
I wonder what drives their need to convince others that there is no God?

Atheists seem to have that same tendency as vegetarians/vegans: To make sure they tell anyone that will listen that they are atheists. They find ways to work it into converstations very early on. They really want everyone to know about it as if it is some badge of honor for them.

Poor them.

42 posted on 02/12/2010 12:03:05 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Ben Mugged

Yes they are moved by *Lucifer* in the Last Days...Lucifer is very obvious.....

Jesus mentioned over and over and over again...

*Make sure you are not deceived*

Who is the *Ultimate Deceiver*? Satan...

Deception in the world is anywhere and everywhere....


43 posted on 02/12/2010 12:05:50 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: a fool in paradise

Lord, deliver us.

OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.

And this man dares to claim he is a Christian? Does he really think he is God? What if the interviewer asked “what would be a sin in my life? Would 0bama say it is being out of alignment with “my” values or “your” values?

In addition to being incredibly egocentric his statement on its face is nonsense. With that definition how could anyone say that Hitler or Stalin sinned by murdering millions? Maybe they sinned in those rare instances that they showed mercy and spared a life. And America elected this moral idiot.


44 posted on 02/12/2010 12:06:05 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: Allegra

I have a Valentine’s Day message for the atheists, God loves them in spite of what they may do.


45 posted on 02/12/2010 12:09:10 PM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: TaraP

Howz about a few “Good without Liberals” signs?

‘Twould do us much better - balanced economy, real schools, no global warming....less disease, etc., etc., etc....


46 posted on 02/12/2010 12:10:48 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: HarleyD
By whose standards?

Saul Alinksy's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

In a separate chapter he suggests that the perennial question, "Does the end justify the means?" is meaningless as it stands: the real and only question regarding the ethics of means and ends is, and always has been, "Does this particular end justify this particular means?"

Alinsky continues by stating several rules of the ethics of means and ends:

-The judgment of the ethics of means is dependent upon the political position of those sitting in judgment.

-In war the end justifies almost any means.

-Judgment must be made in the context of the times in which the action occurred and not from any other chronological vantage point.

-Concern with ethics increases with the number of means available and vice versa.

-The less important the end to be desired, the more one can afford to engage in ethical evaluations of means.

-Generally, success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics.

-The morality of a means depends upon whether the means is being employed at a time of imminent defeat or imminent victory.

-Any effective means is automatically judged by the opposition as being unethical.

-You do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.

-Goals must be phrased in general terms like "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," "Of the Common Welfare," "Pursuit of Happiness," or "Bread and Peace."


47 posted on 02/12/2010 12:12:10 PM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: TaraP
Not to argue for the sake of argument but it seems to me that a "deceiver" is one who moves in non-obvious ways. Someone who holds a gun to your head is not trying to deceive you.

I think (and I am as fallible as the next guy) that they are not deceptive instruments of Lucifer but rather are operating within the "free will" that God allows us to have. They are as wrong as someone who exercises free will in committing adultery and God is just as surprised and disappointed.

Lucifer's evil is far less obvious and far more traumatic than advertising to promote non-belief in a Christian God.

48 posted on 02/12/2010 12:13:40 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Atheists can’t be good people?


49 posted on 02/12/2010 12:13:50 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: TaraP
We need more of the Miss Me Yet billboards.
50 posted on 02/12/2010 12:13:54 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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