Posted on 02/13/2010 8:21:15 AM PST by Ladycalif
Feb. 12) -- The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has fallen by 1 million in the past two years due to a combination of the recession and increased law enforcement, according to the latest estimate by the Department of Homeland Security. While activists largely agree that the influx of illegal immigrants is at a welcome ebb, some vehemently contest the accuracy of the agency's figures and remain bitterly divided on what impact they should have on the country's immigration policy going forward.
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Why would ANYONE be unhappy because the invasion of this country has lessened to some degree? WTH?????????????
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One million less for Obamacare to cover...!
I always wondered if Mexicans were such a proud superior people (La Raza “The Race”) why 20% of their population has to invade a foreign country to work and use the other countries’ public assistance and ER’s “we have to treat everyone” policies? Why can’t they get their own country in order if they’re the top race, as they claim?
1 million down, +20 million more to go......looks like the recession will have to go on for another 20 years to get rid of the rest....unless the public sector finally gets around to checking on whether recipients of government services are actually citizens and deny services/benefits. Nah, that would be too much trouble.
>immigration policy
Calling the invasion of America an “immigration policy” is like calling a bank
robbery a loan. When America runs out of workers to handle all it jobs, then
we can talk about “immigration policy”.
Until then, call it what it it...invasion of leeches.
These groups want nothing less then what they feel is their God-given right to screw up their own countries(notably Mexico) without consequence and then barge into ours as if they were walking into their own living room and their attitude is “Shut up f**king Gringo and pay my way through here you grande racsistas.’’ Screw them. This is our country, our home, our laws. Obey them and come here legally or stay the F out!
Since when does “immigration policy” have anything to do with illegals?
People that follow the US immigration laws are immigrants.
Illegals are criminals.
However, in places where they do get accurate counts, such as inmates in the California prison system, they claim that such estimates cannot be projected onto the population as a whole because, while illegals only come here to do the jobs Americans refuse to do, they make up about 40% of the population of the California prison system.
And ascertaining immigration status for activities such as applying for government assistance, signing up for driver's licenses or registering to vote can't be done because somehow it would be racist.
Here's a little experiment for the libtards: Leave your home unlocked for a week, but monitor it with video cameras. What do you think is more likely to happen:
i don’t believe it.
These groups and individuals began springing up like mushrooms in the 60s and show no signs of abating. Their very existence skews reality. For example does anyone think that racial issues will improve as long as the NAACP, which used to be relevant, exists?
They wield influence way out of proportion to their numbers, relevance and certainly their accuracy.
I dont believe a word that Dept says. Napolitano doesnt have a Clue
The nummber of illegals is unknowable. Nobody is at the border clicking away the count.
As far back as 2004, when the leak became a flood, the number 12 million was being tossed around. Since then, clear to anyone who looks around them, the footprint of illegals has spread cancerously. Unseen in 2004 in places outside the border states and a few enclaves like northern Virginia, Connecticut, and Long Island and Colorado, they are now everywhere - Maine, Minnesota, Idaho - everywhere.
And yet DHS and Napolitano and even the CIS want us to believe that the number is now 10 million??
There may be a reduction of a million due to the recession (certainly NOT enforcement), but it is a reduction not from the 12 million, but more likely the 20-30 million that are everywhere these days. Democrats know damn well that amnesty and citizenship for illegals will not add 10 million Democrat votes, but 20-30 million in the near term, and 50-100 million when newly legalized aliens are allowed to bring in children, parents, siblings, and phoney family members.
That the Democrats want this and will use false numbers and data to cover it up is no surprise. What is more amazing is that there are “Republicans” (Graham, Rove, Bushes, McCain, Flake, etc.) who actually think that these welfare-state teat-suckers aliens will be attracted to the Republicans.
If this is true it is good news but why would I trust the same federal government that is going out of their way to keep the border wide open and also actively encourage the invasion?
I don't believe it for a second. Illegals are still entering the US daily and there is no documented evidence that more illegal aliens are leaving the US than entering. The only documented repatriation stats from Mexico a few months back showed a few hundred people returning over a significant period of time.
I don’t believe it.

Based on what? Who has these “figures?” How the hell do they KNOW this??!!
The ONLY silver lining in the Obama Depression. Unfortunately, the Home Depot “army” seems to stay the same where I’m at.
This is a lobby that specializes in playing our heartstrings about the dire conditions that illegals live in, how they spend their lives "in the shadows," in constant fear and exploitation and misery and etc. etc. etc. etc.
Anyone wanting the population of such miserable wretches to grow leads one to believe that the well-being of such people is not their primary concern. It implies a larger agenda, a political and social agenda.
The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has fallen.One of the few times a high number is a good thing.
Actually that sounds like a pretty solid idea. I'll give them credit for that. Get rid of the trouble makers first. However, I would like them to use at least some resources raiding places where illegals are taking jobs locals could fill.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
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The existence of organized groups advocating for illegal immigration is a criminal conspiracy. These groups should be prosecuted under RICO statutes. Rallys for illegal immigrants are inherently illegal. There is no freedom of speech to conspire to break the law and support those who do.
When has the U.S. government provided even a remotely accurate number for anything...ever? My rule of thumb is to at least triple any number they give and that usually puts you in the neighborhood.
Now here is my conspiracy theory for the day:
Obama and his merry band of Congressional RATs initially thought that taking over this country was gonna be a cake walk. Pass Stimulus, pass Porkulus, pass Healthcare, pass Cap & Tax, then pass Immigration Reform (Amnesty).
Obama, by waving his little magic wand could legalize 30 million illegal's on the spot and those 30 million would then import their entire families to this country and before we even realized what hit us we would have over 100 million new democrats to rule this country into the ground in perpetuity.
How's that for a theory?
If the DHS says it’s dropped, WE KNOW it has risen!!
“This is our country, our home, our laws. Obey them and come here legally or stay the F out!”
Totally agree. I wish our sellout BASTARD WHORE politicians felt the same way.
Ping!
Nailed it.
“Obama, by waving his little magic wand could legalize 30 million illegal’s on the spot and those 30 million would then import their entire families to this country and before we even realized what hit us we would have over 100 million new democrats to rule this country into the ground in perpetuity.”
80 million unskilled illiterate slobs, many of them criminals. Buh Bye America!
Come on, pull the other one. It has bells on it.
It is our immigration policy, enacted into law that makes them criminals. It is our immigration policy that makes illegal entry into the US only a misdemeanor. Reentry after being deported is a felony. The misdemeanor is normally waived after producing a US citizen/anchor baby.
Like if you robbed a second bank, then it would be a felony. Analogous to the “One free grope” rule for sexual harassement.
F em.
voters, voters, voters........ dims don’t care if the are legal. So many have left our town we are closing one of our schools.
What should the new immigration policy be?
Actually, we should go back to the pre1986 policy that Kennedy pushed through.
I bet the illegal immigrants would like to vote on it.
Thank you Stephen. It must gall those who go through the legal and lengthy process to get here, like my daughter-in-law had to do, to see these pugnacious arrogant beggars push their way in.
Thank s Levante. Perhaps come Novemeber we can make them know it!
It galls me to no end. Our prisons are bursting with illegal immigrants who committed violent crimes. California is bankrupt, due in no small part from 7 million illegals sucking it dry.
For almost all those Mexicans being in jail is no big deal. It certainly is a thousand times better than being in a Mexican jail. Think of it, free food, free medical care, literacy and educational programs out the wazoo, all at taxpayers excuse. You know, every time I see some coin jar on a counter in some convenience store for a kid who needs a liver I say the prisons are filled with donors. At least the scum would be doing somebody some where some good.
Bravo! Well said.
“You know, every time I see some coin jar on a counter in some convenience store for a kid who needs a liver I say the prisons are filled with donors. At least the scum would be doing somebody some where some good.”
I’m sure the ACLU has already blocked it “coersion”
So bad, it's what caused Phoenix to have higher per-capita major crime rates than Los Angeles, and what turned Phoenix into the kidnap capital of the U.S.
“what turned Phoenix into the kidnap capital of the U.S. “
The Mexican gangs only kidnap OTHER illegal aliens. This is because illegals are afraid to go to the police. I say, who cares?
To compete with our own 80 million unskilled illiterate slobs. Buh Bye America, hello 3rd world nation status.
Phoenix being the kidnap capital of the U.S. means more crime, over and above kidnapping. Torture, murder, hands copped off, extortion, prostitution, drug sales driven by Mexican gangs, fraud, etc.
BTW, a short hop across the border, those same Mexican cockroach gangs are kidnapping Americans in record numbers. You know what's coming next.
“BTW, a short hop across the border, those same Mexican cockroach gangs are kidnapping Americans in record numbers. You know what’s coming next.”
Yep
Barbarians at the gates. oh wait...no gates
The issue IMO is in what category they're the top "race": Corruption.
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