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Drop in Illegal Immigration Numbers Inflames Activists
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Posted on 02/13/2010 8:21:15 AM PST by Ladycalif

Feb. 12) -- The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has fallen by 1 million in the past two years due to a combination of the recession and increased law enforcement, according to the latest estimate by the Department of Homeland Security. While activists largely agree that the influx of illegal immigrants is at a welcome ebb, some vehemently contest the accuracy of the agency's figures and remain bitterly divided on what impact they should have on the country's immigration policy going forward.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; jimgilchrist; minutemen

1 posted on 02/13/2010 8:21:15 AM PST by Ladycalif
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Jesus, I've got to wander what could their agenda be?

Why would ANYONE be unhappy because the invasion of this country has lessened to some degree? WTH?????????????

2 posted on 02/13/2010 8:25:34 AM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church (...Actually I'm hearing MORE from RCC now! ....) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Ladycalif; SwinneySwitch; tennteacher; lonewacko_dot_com; radar101; ruination; gubamyster; Czar; ...

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3 posted on 02/13/2010 8:26:36 AM PST by Ladycalif (Justice for Agent Rosas - Secure the Border.)
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To: Ladycalif

One million less for Obamacare to cover...!

I always wondered if Mexicans were such a proud superior people (La Raza “The Race”) why 20% of their population has to invade a foreign country to work and use the other countries’ public assistance and ER’s “we have to treat everyone” policies? Why can’t they get their own country in order if they’re the top race, as they claim?


4 posted on 02/13/2010 8:26:53 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Ladycalif

1 million down, +20 million more to go......looks like the recession will have to go on for another 20 years to get rid of the rest....unless the public sector finally gets around to checking on whether recipients of government services are actually citizens and deny services/benefits. Nah, that would be too much trouble.


5 posted on 02/13/2010 8:27:46 AM PST by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: Ladycalif

>immigration policy

Calling the invasion of America an “immigration policy” is like calling a bank
robbery a loan. When America runs out of workers to handle all it jobs, then
we can talk about “immigration policy”.

Until then, call it what it it...invasion of leeches.


6 posted on 02/13/2010 8:28:06 AM PST by soycd
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To: Ladycalif

These groups want nothing less then what they feel is their God-given right to screw up their own countries(notably Mexico) without consequence and then barge into ours as if they were walking into their own living room and their attitude is “Shut up f**king Gringo and pay my way through here you grande racsistas.’’ Screw them. This is our country, our home, our laws. Obey them and come here legally or stay the F out!


7 posted on 02/13/2010 8:29:53 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: Ladycalif

Since when does “immigration policy” have anything to do with illegals?

People that follow the US immigration laws are immigrants.

Illegals are criminals.


8 posted on 02/13/2010 8:32:21 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Ladycalif
OK. So everybody agrees that we can't get an accurate count. They even seem to agree that a somewhat accurate count is important.

However, in places where they do get accurate counts, such as inmates in the California prison system, they claim that such estimates cannot be projected onto the population as a whole because, while illegals only come here to do the jobs Americans refuse to do, they make up about 40% of the population of the California prison system.

And ascertaining immigration status for activities such as applying for government assistance, signing up for driver's licenses or registering to vote can't be done because somehow it would be racist.

Here's a little experiment for the libtards: Leave your home unlocked for a week, but monitor it with video cameras. What do you think is more likely to happen:

  1. Somebody will come in and mow your lawn, do you laundry and clean your house?
  2. Somebody will come in and carry off all your possessions of value and trash your house?

The results of said experience should tell them all they need to know about the consequences of uninvited "guests."
9 posted on 02/13/2010 8:34:59 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Ladycalif

i don’t believe it.


10 posted on 02/13/2010 8:36:17 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Ladycalif
WAY too much policy in this country is set by people who make their living finding something, anything, to complain about.

These groups and individuals began springing up like mushrooms in the 60s and show no signs of abating. Their very existence skews reality. For example does anyone think that racial issues will improve as long as the NAACP, which used to be relevant, exists?

They wield influence way out of proportion to their numbers, relevance and certainly their accuracy.

11 posted on 02/13/2010 8:41:02 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Ladycalif

I dont believe a word that Dept says. Napolitano doesnt have a Clue


12 posted on 02/13/2010 8:41:49 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Ladycalif

The nummber of illegals is unknowable. Nobody is at the border clicking away the count.

As far back as 2004, when the leak became a flood, the number 12 million was being tossed around. Since then, clear to anyone who looks around them, the footprint of illegals has spread cancerously. Unseen in 2004 in places outside the border states and a few enclaves like northern Virginia, Connecticut, and Long Island and Colorado, they are now everywhere - Maine, Minnesota, Idaho - everywhere.

And yet DHS and Napolitano and even the CIS want us to believe that the number is now 10 million??

There may be a reduction of a million due to the recession (certainly NOT enforcement), but it is a reduction not from the 12 million, but more likely the 20-30 million that are everywhere these days. Democrats know damn well that amnesty and citizenship for illegals will not add 10 million Democrat votes, but 20-30 million in the near term, and 50-100 million when newly legalized aliens are allowed to bring in children, parents, siblings, and phoney family members.

That the Democrats want this and will use false numbers and data to cover it up is no surprise. What is more amazing is that there are “Republicans” (Graham, Rove, Bushes, McCain, Flake, etc.) who actually think that these welfare-state teat-suckers aliens will be attracted to the Republicans.


13 posted on 02/13/2010 8:43:39 AM PST by oldbill
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To: Ladycalif
The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has fallen by 1 million in the past two years due to a combination of the recession and increased law enforcement, according to the latest estimate by the Department of Homeland Security

If this is true it is good news but why would I trust the same federal government that is going out of their way to keep the border wide open and also actively encourage the invasion?

14 posted on 02/13/2010 8:45:15 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Ladycalif
The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has fallen by 1 million in the past two years due to a combination of the recession and increased law enforcement,

I don't believe it for a second. Illegals are still entering the US daily and there is no documented evidence that more illegal aliens are leaving the US than entering. The only documented repatriation stats from Mexico a few months back showed a few hundred people returning over a significant period of time.

15 posted on 02/13/2010 8:50:24 AM PST by Will88
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To: Ladycalif

I don’t believe it.


16 posted on 02/13/2010 8:53:21 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Ladycalif
"Drop in Illegal Immigration Numbers Inflames Activists"

Of course it inflames them...it's proving our point...WHEN THE GRAVY DRIES UP, THE FLIES GO ELSEWHERE.

Democrat Party



17 posted on 02/13/2010 8:53:54 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Ladycalif

Based on what? Who has these “figures?” How the hell do they KNOW this??!!


18 posted on 02/13/2010 8:56:46 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Ladycalif

The ONLY silver lining in the Obama Depression. Unfortunately, the Home Depot “army” seems to stay the same where I’m at.


19 posted on 02/13/2010 9:00:35 AM PST by max americana
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To: Ladycalif
If true it's very revealing of their state of mind.

This is a lobby that specializes in playing our heartstrings about the dire conditions that illegals live in, how they spend their lives "in the shadows," in constant fear and exploitation and misery and etc. etc. etc. etc.

Anyone wanting the population of such miserable wretches to grow leads one to believe that the well-being of such people is not their primary concern. It implies a larger agenda, a political and social agenda.

20 posted on 02/13/2010 9:03:30 AM PST by denydenydeny ("Leftists are like vampires; shine a light on what they are doing and they retreat."-Andrew Klavan)
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To: Ladycalif

The population of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has fallen.One of the few times a high number is a good thing.


21 posted on 02/13/2010 9:04:26 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Ladycalif
"They have the immigration agency comb through local jails and place deportation holds on anyone suspected of being undocumented."

Actually that sounds like a pretty solid idea. I'll give them credit for that. Get rid of the trouble makers first. However, I would like them to use at least some resources raiding places where illegals are taking jobs locals could fill.

22 posted on 02/13/2010 9:20:12 AM PST by MovementConservative (Love my Mariners. Certain 2010 AL West Champs!)
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To: ballplayer
Exactly. IF this is true, it's good news. But I don't trust anything that comes out of the Obamanation administration. If Napolitano told me the sky was blue, I'd have to look to make sure.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

23 posted on 02/13/2010 9:21:35 AM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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24 posted on 02/13/2010 9:23:29 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Ladycalif

The existence of organized groups advocating for illegal immigration is a criminal conspiracy. These groups should be prosecuted under RICO statutes. Rallys for illegal immigrants are inherently illegal. There is no freedom of speech to conspire to break the law and support those who do.


25 posted on 02/13/2010 9:25:26 AM PST by votemout
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To: Ladycalif
I've heard that 12 million illegal's number being kicked around for years now and I don't believe a word of it.

When has the U.S. government provided even a remotely accurate number for anything...ever? My rule of thumb is to at least triple any number they give and that usually puts you in the neighborhood.

Now here is my conspiracy theory for the day:

Obama and his merry band of Congressional RATs initially thought that taking over this country was gonna be a cake walk. Pass Stimulus, pass Porkulus, pass Healthcare, pass Cap & Tax, then pass Immigration Reform (Amnesty).

Obama, by waving his little magic wand could legalize 30 million illegal's on the spot and those 30 million would then import their entire families to this country and before we even realized what hit us we would have over 100 million new democrats to rule this country into the ground in perpetuity.

How's that for a theory?

26 posted on 02/13/2010 9:39:35 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: Ladycalif

If the DHS says it’s dropped, WE KNOW it has risen!!


27 posted on 02/13/2010 10:10:12 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: John-Irish

“This is our country, our home, our laws. Obey them and come here legally or stay the F out!”

Totally agree. I wish our sellout BASTARD WHORE politicians felt the same way.


28 posted on 02/13/2010 11:26:43 AM PST by Levante
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Ping!


29 posted on 02/13/2010 11:40:51 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: John-Irish

Nailed it.


30 posted on 02/13/2010 1:17:32 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: ArchAngel1983

“Obama, by waving his little magic wand could legalize 30 million illegal’s on the spot and those 30 million would then import their entire families to this country and before we even realized what hit us we would have over 100 million new democrats to rule this country into the ground in perpetuity.”

80 million unskilled illiterate slobs, many of them criminals. Buh Bye America!


31 posted on 02/13/2010 1:20:09 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: ElPatriota

Come on, pull the other one. It has bells on it.


32 posted on 02/13/2010 1:53:18 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: EyeGuy

It is our immigration policy, enacted into law that makes them criminals. It is our immigration policy that makes illegal entry into the US only a misdemeanor. Reentry after being deported is a felony. The misdemeanor is normally waived after producing a US citizen/anchor baby.

Like if you robbed a second bank, then it would be a felony. Analogous to the “One free grope” rule for sexual harassement.


33 posted on 02/13/2010 1:56:24 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: ElPatriota
Racists. Colonists. Imperialists.

F em.

34 posted on 02/13/2010 3:56:23 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ElPatriota

voters, voters, voters........ dims don’t care if the are legal. So many have left our town we are closing one of our schools.


35 posted on 02/13/2010 4:02:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Ladycalif

What should the new immigration policy be?

Actually, we should go back to the pre1986 policy that Kennedy pushed through.

I bet the illegal immigrants would like to vote on it.


36 posted on 02/13/2010 4:18:29 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thank you Stephen. It must gall those who go through the legal and lengthy process to get here, like my daughter-in-law had to do, to see these pugnacious arrogant beggars push their way in.


37 posted on 02/13/2010 4:25:50 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: Levante

Thank s Levante. Perhaps come Novemeber we can make them know it!


38 posted on 02/13/2010 4:28:49 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

It galls me to no end. Our prisons are bursting with illegal immigrants who committed violent crimes. California is bankrupt, due in no small part from 7 million illegals sucking it dry.


39 posted on 02/13/2010 5:29:34 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

For almost all those Mexicans being in jail is no big deal. It certainly is a thousand times better than being in a Mexican jail. Think of it, free food, free medical care, literacy and educational programs out the wazoo, all at taxpayers excuse. You know, every time I see some coin jar on a counter in some convenience store for a kid who needs a liver I say the prisons are filled with donors. At least the scum would be doing somebody some where some good.


40 posted on 02/13/2010 5:43:00 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: votemout

Bravo! Well said.


41 posted on 02/13/2010 5:44:21 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

“You know, every time I see some coin jar on a counter in some convenience store for a kid who needs a liver I say the prisons are filled with donors. At least the scum would be doing somebody some where some good.”

I’m sure the ACLU has already blocked it “coersion”


42 posted on 02/13/2010 6:23:00 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
California is bankrupt, due in no small part from 7 million illegals sucking it dry.

So bad, it's what caused Phoenix to have higher per-capita major crime rates than Los Angeles, and what turned Phoenix into the kidnap capital of the U.S.

43 posted on 02/13/2010 6:37:08 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

“what turned Phoenix into the kidnap capital of the U.S. “

The Mexican gangs only kidnap OTHER illegal aliens. This is because illegals are afraid to go to the police. I say, who cares?


44 posted on 02/14/2010 5:48:18 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"80 million unskilled illiterate slobs, many of them criminals. Buh Bye America!"

To compete with our own 80 million unskilled illiterate slobs. Buh Bye America, hello 3rd world nation status.

45 posted on 02/14/2010 10:13:45 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The Mexican gangs only kidnap OTHER illegal aliens. I say, who cares?

Phoenix being the kidnap capital of the U.S. means more crime, over and above kidnapping. Torture, murder, hands copped off, extortion, prostitution, drug sales driven by Mexican gangs, fraud, etc.

BTW, a short hop across the border, those same Mexican cockroach gangs are kidnapping Americans in record numbers. You know what's coming next.

46 posted on 02/14/2010 10:21:42 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

“BTW, a short hop across the border, those same Mexican cockroach gangs are kidnapping Americans in record numbers. You know what’s coming next.”

Yep


47 posted on 02/14/2010 12:47:38 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Barbarians at the gates. oh wait...no gates


48 posted on 02/14/2010 5:46:19 PM PST by molybdenum ((Yes I posted this masterpeace))
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To: Secret Agent Man
Why can’t they get their own country in order if they’re the top race, as they claim?

The issue IMO is in what category they're the top "race": Corruption.

49 posted on 02/16/2010 8:36:01 AM PST by Marauder ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." - Jefferson)
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