Skip to comments.Live U.S Senate Kentucky Debate thread
Posted on 02/13/2010 10:22:56 AM PST by takecontrol
Live Kentucky Senatorial Debate. Can Rand Paul maintain momentum and handle the pressure of front runner? find out this afternoon in the live debate for the Republican nomination for U.S Senate in the state of Kentucky.
This is the live thread, hopefully the stream works!
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supposed to start at 12:30pm CST
stream is up, working for anyone else?
it’s working at least and they look on schedule... testing 1,2,3
stream just died ! call the police
stream is back. pledge of allegiance
stream keeps going off :(
Rand just knocked it out the park in his opening statement
Going on Alex Jones is no different than going on Chris Mathews' or Keith Olbermann's show.
I would argue Mathews is even more extreme.
Alex Jones is the biggest 9/11 Truther in the country. Why would Rand choose to go on his radio show on a regular basis. Rand proudly excepted Jones’ endorsement. That’s a whole lot different than going on Matthew’s or Olbermann’s show to debate the issues. A whole lot different.
As soon as Mr. Johnson said that he supports the PATRIOT Act I lost all interest in him. I thought that he was a strong defender of the Constitution (despite the fact that I support Rand Paul)...but I guess I was wrong.
Don't tell me you support Rand Paul?
Its a distinction without a difference.
Going on a show doesn’t mean one adheres to the beliefs of the host. Rand Paul is not a truther and it is disengenuous to suggest so. If anything he has disappointed some of his fathers faithful because he refuses to take the isolationist stance of his father.
It really isn’t different most of the nutty leftists are truthers. Rand has never professed to being one. He is a passionate well spoken proponent of liberty and conservatism. I trust him to stand not just against liberals but also against big government Republicanism.
I support Rand Paul for Senate. We need more small government libertarians in the GOP.
But Rand Paul did announce his candidacy on the Rachel Maddow show. A strange forum for someone seeking the Republican nomination.
From the Alex Jones Radio Show, May. 21, 2009
Question:"You're basically what I would call a chip off the old block. Your policies are basically identical to your father, correct?"
Rand Paul: "I'd say we'd be very very similar. We might present the message sometimes differently.. I think in some ways the message has to be broadened and made more appealing to the entire Republican electorate because you have to win a primary."
Come on! Rand Paul is against the Patriot Act, enhanced interrogation, FISA and opposes US involvement in both Afghanistan and Iraq. In May 2009 Paul wanted Gitmo closed. In Nov 2009 he said Gitmo should be left open. Flip-flop. Ron and Rand Paul are two anti-military, foreign policy kooks, unfit to serve America in Congress.
Question #1 for Rand - Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?
Clearly, we are not going to agree on this issue. I'll be supporting Bill Johnson, but to each his own.
Does anyone have any idea why that one guy was lead out of the auditorium by police early in the debate? It looked like he was an elderly white guy, & I wonder what he said before being escorted out by the cops.
Does proudly excepting the endorsement of said host do so?
Libertarianism is the backbone of conservatism, bub.
Thanks for help electing Grayson.
Funny, and here I thought conservatism was the backbone of conservatism! Silly me.
Or, maybe if conservatives would drop their non-sensical support of Rand, they could all unite behind Bill Johnson, and give Grayson the boot. But, that makes way too much sense.
Watched the whole thing, and I think Bill Johnson did great. His intrinsic sincerity and passion for this country came through well as it always does.
Rand Paul was angry and arrogant and defensive right out of the gate and came across that way throughout most of the event.
Trey Grayson looked and acted like a candidate for state senate, not the US Senate. He thoroughly ticked off all his his talking points but was boring, boring, boring.
All the candidates had tables out front at this event, and sources on the ground tell me that while Bill Johnsons table was mobbed afterwards with people wanting materials, Graysons and Pauls tables were pretty much ignored.
In the end, of course, all that is going to matter is what Kentuckians think - not what Rand Pauls national Ron Paul network thinks, not what Trey Graysons GOP establishment supporters think, and certainly not what I think.
God Bless Kentucky. Finally, a little sanity.
Ditto. I agree with you that Rand Paul came across defensive from the get go and belligerent at times. Besides, we don't need another Paultard libertarian who will vote against everything, including the annual Defense Appropriations bill. Btw, I hope everyone noticed how Rand Paul shied away from direct comments on the Patriot Act, FISA and enhanced interrogations. Not to mention the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Paul's comments on Gitmo didn't remove any doubts concerning his flip-flopping on the issue in 2009.
I thought Johnson did a good job and Grayson was on message too. If this boils down to the charismatic cult of personality, sadly, Paul will win. Otherwise I think both Grayson and Johnson would get the job done for Kentucky.
Rand Paul won and knocked it out of the park on more than one occasion
What are the statewide polls showing and when is the primary election day?
I don’t care. That he announced in the belly of the beast doesn’t bother me what bothers me is when a Republican goes on a left wing show and acts ashamed of his conservatism. Rand Paul is the real deal and he doesn’t back down from defending liberty and that is all I care about.
the last statewide poll showed Rand Paul leading by 19 points
Hey Titus, EEE was correct.
Today’s “conservatives” no longer believe in small government. They have become more progressive in their thinking, hence giving us progressive Neocon candidates like Bush & McCain.
"Neocon" - a term, like "racism," that means the one using it has no argument. Typically used by libertardians and Ron Paul nuts.
I've noticed, libertarians tend to think conservatives are "big government" because conservatives oppose abortion, oppose the redefinition of marriage to include homosexual "marriage," oppose the legalisation of prostitution, oppose the legalisation of all drugs, and oppose private roads, private court systems, and private armies.
It was libertarians that made me become a conservative.
Here is where "NeoCon" comes from, by who I believe is the creator of the phrase "Neoconservatism" himself (Irving Kristol, the father of Bill Kristol of FOX News):
BTW, both Rand & his father Ron are strongly PRO-LIFE. While I am not an actual card-carrying member of the Libertarian Party anymore, there is a stong pro-life faction w/in the LP called Libertarians For Life. I think that most of the LP's most recent Presidential candidates were pro-life also -- including the late, great Harry Browne & former Rep. Bob Barr.
The STATES are the ones who should be dealing w/ the other items you brought up (queer marraige, highways, etc.), & most libertarians that I know would settle for getting the feds out of thise issues first. Whether the states do likewise is up to The People, which is exactly what the Founding Fathers intended.