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Very Frustrated Dem Senator Wants Obama to Bypass the Legislative Process on Healthcare (audio)
Naked Emperor News ^ | Feb. 14, 2010

Posted on 02/14/2010 5:34:57 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-Tyrant): "The administration can do some things without having it being done legislatively and I'm encouraging them, they need to do that as well."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: michigan; stabenow; stabmenow
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1 posted on 02/14/2010 5:34:57 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That fat pig, Stabacow ought to shut her piehole. Its morons like her that will kill this republic.


2 posted on 02/14/2010 5:37:06 PM PST by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yeah, that’s right. Get him to sign an executive order. The sooner we phyisically carry that bastard out of the white house, the better.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 5:37:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (yeah, you can quote me.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We don’ need no steekin Constitution.


4 posted on 02/14/2010 5:37:43 PM PST by upchuck (The horse is in the pasture. The barn door is wide-open. Obama wants to know who made the hinges.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“Ladies and Gentlemen the Emperor of the United States

5 posted on 02/14/2010 5:37:48 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: DeusExMachina05

There are treatments available for tyrants like Stabanow.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:29 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

7 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:58 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-Tyrant”

Tyrant is correct.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 5:39:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wow. Michigan needs to split into two. Part of the state has normal and sane people. The rest of it is a toilet. We can elect Repubs in NJ, MA, VA and maybe even WA, NY but MI - I do not know. This fat pig needs to go.


9 posted on 02/14/2010 5:39:48 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: driftdiver

(D) Havana


10 posted on 02/14/2010 5:40:28 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-Tyrant): "The administration can do some things without having it being done legislatively and I'm encouraging them, they need to do that as well."

Please do, sweetie. I want EVERY Democrat to lose in November.


11 posted on 02/14/2010 5:40:41 PM PST by Lazamataz (Hey Obama, Can You Hear Me Now....? GOOOOoood......)
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To: DeusExMachina05
Its morons like her that will kill this republic.

Strike that, reverse it.

12 posted on 02/14/2010 5:46:15 PM PST by Hazwaste (Some people are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

Great big stupid (expletive) alert

13 posted on 02/14/2010 5:48:23 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Translation...we do not have the votes so let’s get this done another way


14 posted on 02/14/2010 5:49:02 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Lazamataz

Unfortunately, she’s not up in November.


15 posted on 02/14/2010 5:49:58 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Lazamataz
Please do, sweetie. I want EVERY Democrat to lose in November.

Somethings afoot. obama's peeps just let it be known via the NYT they would be doing more with presidential executive orders when it came to "getting things done" outside Congress. This is coordinated with the whitehouse. She needs to know her statements are pretty obvious and will have an effect on her future election possiblities.
16 posted on 02/14/2010 5:52:03 PM PST by Girlene (HAPPY VALENTINES DAY)
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To: Girlene

This Obama fiasco is going to end very badly. Very very badly.


17 posted on 02/14/2010 5:54:49 PM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Unfortunately she isn’t facing an election this time out.


18 posted on 02/14/2010 5:54:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

GO AHEAD, ZERO! MAKE OUR DAY/WEEK/MONTH/YEAR!


19 posted on 02/14/2010 5:57:32 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Free ThinkerNY

She needs to move to Venezuela to be a concubine. Nuff said. These people WANT a DICTATOR!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 02/14/2010 5:58:38 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

21 posted on 02/14/2010 5:59:03 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: cripplecreek
Unfortunately she isn’t facing an election this time out.

Then that's why she's been chosen to start the clamoring for obama to use his executive orders to bypass Congress. All the dem's need to be called, regardless of when their election is up, and let it be known how obvious their plans are.
22 posted on 02/14/2010 6:00:28 PM PST by Girlene (HAPPY VALENTINES DAY)
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To: Girlene

This thing ain’t gonna work too well. Congress, even liberals, won’t dig Obama undercutting their power. If he tries to do too much, even liberals will impeach him.


23 posted on 02/14/2010 6:00:30 PM PST by Lazamataz (Hey Obama, Can You Hear Me Now....? GOOOOoood......)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If we survive this regime with any shred of a republic intact, we need to have a serious national discussion about greatly reducing the powers of the presidency. You know, something more in line with a country worthy to be called a republic. As this one has shown us, it’s a pretty short step to dictatorship. That proves to me that there is something drastically wrong with the current arrangement.

We had a Republican candidate for governor in Illinois whose solution to a Chicago- and Democratic-dominated legislature would be to use executive orders. I didn’t like it when he said it, either.


24 posted on 02/14/2010 6:02:46 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This sounds like David Brooks and that other NYT op-ed person stating in Nov. 2008 that BO should just be seated in the White House immediately, forget about waiting for Jan. 20th.


25 posted on 02/14/2010 6:05:59 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Dem Senator Wants Obama to Bypass the Legislative Process

I can go for that -- but only if (quid pro quo) we also bypass the judicial process for executions. Get a rope, she's to be (um) up first! / s

26 posted on 02/14/2010 6:07:12 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: DeusExMachina05

For those of us on these forums, it seems like this is a left-right thing. But eventually it is going to come down to old vs. young. Old want no denials for pre-existing conditions. Young want no mandate. They are mutually exclusive.

For me and my Type II diabetes, my need for insurance trumps my political views.


27 posted on 02/14/2010 6:07:14 PM PST by drubyfive
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
(D-Tyrant)

Yet another district?

29 posted on 02/14/2010 6:09:39 PM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: GailA
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases

Do they plan to pay for it?

30 posted on 02/14/2010 6:10:10 PM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: Girlene

There are likely to be GOP pickups in the governor’s mansion and a couple of congressional districts in Michigan. She’s hoping the sweep will be forgotten when she comes up for election again.


31 posted on 02/14/2010 6:11:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sorry Debbie. That’s the way nazi fascists and commies do things. Unfortunately FOR YOU, you were born in a free country with a republic form of government. You might want to move your ass to North Korea or Iran. Some place like that. It might be more to your liking. Piggie.


32 posted on 02/14/2010 6:13:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well...she's done wonders for Michigan.

33 posted on 02/14/2010 6:13:44 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Baynative
It seems Obama fever is sweeping the democrats into a "dump the constitution" frenzy from one coast to the other.

I'd be happy to help a "dump the democrats" frenzy. Surely there's a limepit available somewhere? (100+% / sarc)

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

34 posted on 02/14/2010 6:14:52 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Lazamataz

Not yet (IMO, of course). They have voted against their own interests (staying in power) thus far. The morons among them (Stabenow) will latch on to this latest attempt to accomplish obama’s agenda hoping once these agendas get accomplshed, people will go along, give up, whathaveyou. Some of the liberals are realizeing they’ve already been snookered and will sit this out. We need to throw out the ones up for election in 2010 to drive the point home to the rest.


35 posted on 02/14/2010 6:16:28 PM PST by Girlene (HAPPY VALENTINES DAY)
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To: cripplecreek

Can she be recalled??

Is this one of the dems that was upset because Stupak put in that abortion restriction in obamacare? Because she wanted MORE abortions available for ANY reason and covered by taxpayers’ dollars??


36 posted on 02/14/2010 6:17:07 PM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: DeusExMachina05

The bitch has a condo a mile from me. There goes my property values. She is so ugly I can understand why her husband went out and bought a BJ.


37 posted on 02/14/2010 6:18:08 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Stab-a-COW is such a lib loser with no ideas of merit. Also, she is such a fat-brained sow that she needs to resign immediately. She won’t so she needs shunned, embarrassed, ridiculed and laughed at. What a total moronic anti-American poor excuse for a human being. Whatever the results of her unintelligible bufoonery, she is a marked one, that’s for sure. Resist. Resist. Resist. Vote the bast**ds out.


38 posted on 02/14/2010 6:19:21 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: Girlene
Whoever HEARD of a NATIONAL HEALTH CARE BILL that is:

Over 2000 pages with LOTS of GOODIES or BENNIES in it being GIVEN to SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS and UNIONS.....when all of us have to pay for it????????

Where is the JUSTICE and FAIRNESS in that????

And WHOEVER heard of a so called health care bill that FAVORS one group over another???

Are we suddenly a KINGDOM where the king and queen and courts jesters in the congress DO NOT HAVE TO BE AN ACTUAL PART OF A HEALTH CARE DEBACLE THEY ARE LAYING UPON ALL OF US?????

And HOW can you LOWER the COSTS of HEALTH CARE without STRIPPING the LAWYERS of their GIGANTIC PAYDAYS (ask johnny edwards about it) and PUTTING IN SOME TORT REFORM INTO THE BILL???????????

Who in the HELL wrote that piece of SHIT, anyway?

No wonder the dems are in such a HURRY to get that piece of shit passed, they DO NOT WANT THE FOLKS TO TOTALLY WAKE UP AND REALIZE the SIZE OF THE SHAFT THEY ARE BEING ASKED TO SWALLOW!

39 posted on 02/14/2010 6:22:36 PM PST by Republic (I love Rush)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No wonder her husband had to seek out a prostitute in and was caught in a police sting. Her husband would not even touch her with a ten foot pole. In Michiagn we are trying to recall this piece of donkey dung. If the recall is not accomplished I believe she is up for a vote in 2010. Time to scrub this piece of donkey dodo out of MI.


40 posted on 02/14/2010 6:23:22 PM PST by hondact200 (hondact200 No to Socialism - Michigan destroyed by Progressive Liberal Populism)
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To: Jim Noble

Knowing dems, they’ll just ignore it and let it take effect until the Veterans groups get highly upset and throw big hissy fits. Which is what put the halt to it’s going to effect so far. Out of site, out of mind.


42 posted on 02/14/2010 6:27:19 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Jim Noble

Just more broken promises to our Veterans.


43 posted on 02/14/2010 6:28:11 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: hal ogen
Stab-a-COW is such a lib loser with no ideas of merit. Also, she is such a fat-brained sow that she needs to resign immediately. She won’t so she needs shunned, embarrassed, ridiculed and laughed at. What a total moronic anti-American poor excuse for a human being. Whatever the results of her unintelligible bufoonery, she is a marked one, that’s for sure.

Don't hold back. Tell how you really feel.

44 posted on 02/14/2010 6:30:21 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Why won't those knuckle-dragging tea-bagging right-wing bastards just negotiate with me?)
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To: Baynative

“It seems Obama fever is sweeping the democrats into a “dump the constitution” frenzy from one coast to the other.”

Maybe along each coast, it’s the heartland that’s going break the fever.


45 posted on 02/14/2010 6:32:18 PM PST by oflyboy ("History is philosophy taught with examples." - Lord Bolingbroke)
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To: Republic

They’re in a hurry because they’ve read poll numbers that indicate people don’t want this. Listening to obama will be their undoing. We just need to keep reminding them that we are aware of what they are trying to accomplish.


46 posted on 02/14/2010 6:38:28 PM PST by Girlene (HAPPY VALENTINES DAY)
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To: JusPasenThru

Aside from helping my blood pressure, direct expression of my thought and emotions does reflect reality. If my IP address leads nobama and his minions to me, I guess my time in “rehabilitation” camp will be time well spent because I never will relent on supporting the Constitution and Freedom. I despise marxist idiots who try to undermine the greatest nation on earth: the United States of America.


47 posted on 02/14/2010 6:40:17 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: hondact200

No, Liberal Debbie is Class I, up for reelection in 2012. Karl Lenin is Class II, up for relection in 2014.


48 posted on 02/14/2010 6:45:03 PM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: gitmo
For the Social Democrats in the short to medium term.

For the country in the longer term.

49 posted on 02/14/2010 6:46:25 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Girlene

Yes, the brilliant voters on the eastside of Michigan put Ms Stabenow back in office for another 6 years this last election. Watch this video - it should have been on billboards around the state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3YCnTbksyQ


50 posted on 02/14/2010 6:51:02 PM PST by Sioux-san
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