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U.S. city considers surrender to 'green police'
WorldNet Daily ^ | Drew Zahn

Posted on 02/14/2010 7:12:18 PM PST by Commonsensecommonman

What would life in an American city look like if it required its residents go green to combat climate change? Would it be all trees and gardens and bicycles, or would it look more like oppression under Big Brother's green thumb?

Cambridge, Mass., home of Harvard University, may be giving the country a glimpse of the answer.

Last May, the city officially adopted an order recognizing that there is a climate emergency; but after nearly a year, officials discovered the city's carbon footprint was nonetheless growing worse.

Cambridge Mayor Denise Simmons, therefore, brought together nearly 100 activists and concerned citizens under the endorsement of the city council to convene a "Climate Congress" to make recommendations on how Cambridge can meet its green goals.

The official report of the Climate Congress provides a sneak peek at how life in Cambridge may be about to dramatically change.

"This emergency is created by the growth of local greenhouse gas emissions despite the urgent warnings of climate scientists that substantial reductions are needed in order to reduce the risk of disastrous changes to our climate," the Climate Congress reports. "This proposal is made in the belief that an effective local response is, if anything, made more urgent by so far inadequate global agreements and federal policies for emissions reductions. It is made in the belief that our City should lead by example."

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We will see how long these wierdos in Cambridge, Mass, can live with their own idiocy.
1 posted on 02/14/2010 7:12:18 PM PST by Commonsensecommonman
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To: Commonsensecommonman

every one of them should postnatally abort and self-compost, to help teh planet.


2 posted on 02/14/2010 7:13:46 PM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

I’m surprised that Berserkeley wasn’t the first to pull this crap. Then again, the only difference between the two cities is the location of the ocean.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 7:14:03 PM PST by ssaftler (Day 391: America Held Hostage)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

especially restaurants being forced to Meatless Mondays
holy cow!


4 posted on 02/14/2010 7:15:23 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: Commonsensecommonman
In Russia...


5 posted on 02/14/2010 7:15:47 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Commonsensecommonman

In Spokane they’ve banned phosphate dish soap. You have to buy this green stuff that doesn’t clean or remove grease so people drive across to Idaho and buy Dove or whatever there ... I wonder when they’ll start roving police inspection stops looking for contraband soap ....


6 posted on 02/14/2010 7:20:33 PM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

7 posted on 02/14/2010 7:21:25 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

They should ban showers, then, no one would want to come to their stinking town.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 7:22:01 PM PST by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

This thread is meaningless without pictures.

Denise Simmons, the first openly lesbian African-American mayor of an American city. (Wiki)

Wiki also notes that her predecessor was the first openly gay African-American mayor of an American city.

Learn something new every day.

9 posted on 02/14/2010 7:25:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

I know Harvard has deteriorated greatly, but it still has superb physics, math, an engineering departments. Do those folks know how silly their city looks?

Oh well, all the better for those states willing to take all the exiting tech staffs.


10 posted on 02/14/2010 7:27:07 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Commonsensecommonman
I would love to see Cambridge, MA do this. I bet within 6 months or less, there would be screaming & hollering by the liberal retards, plus any remaining conservatives or even moderates would have bolted from that socialist cesspool. I would love to see how their city tax revenues would be gutted once all the legitimate taxpayers & businesses just up & left the city.

Liberals are mentally deranged psychotics and deserve each other. What a bunch of stupid bastards!

11 posted on 02/14/2010 7:28:40 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Commonsensecommonman
Obviously as a conservative I hate the idea of a green police. I do however like the idea of this being implemented at the local level. People in Massachusetts have already seen how ineffective government intervention into health care can be, now they can see what the government's environmental policies will do! Harvard seems like a good place for a case study!
As far as Global Sustainability goes, I think free market forces will help reduce water usage. One of the best arguments these environmentalists can make is that we need to concentrate on the real green economy, money matters. If we can convince people that being more environmentally conservative will save you money, I think more people could be convinced to drive smaller cars and use less water.
My parents are about as conservative as it gets, but they would be Global Warming advocates best friends! My Mom has always hounded me on turning lights off, taking short showers and not wasting food. That is conservatism, and I think most of us should be more empathetic with environmentalists cause, even if we disagree with their alarmism.
As water becomes more scarce, I think prices should go up and hopefully that will deter people from taking 30 minute showers. We saw the same thing with oil, the increasing demand of alternative energy and the reduction of SUV purchases.
12 posted on 02/14/2010 7:29:30 PM PST by ATX 1985
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What would life in an American city look like if it required its residents go green to combat climate change?

east berlin

East Berlin. That's what it would look like. All those tenured Harvard professors ready to move into their 600 square foot flats?

13 posted on 02/14/2010 7:30:45 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: James C. Bennett

Why does that guy’s coat say “homo” spelled backward?


14 posted on 02/14/2010 7:33:51 PM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: James C. Bennett

IN Russia, they cure weak liberalism with strong totalitarian Communism!


15 posted on 02/14/2010 7:37:12 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

Someday, should this world be blessed with continued existence and also retain some sanity, future generations will look back at Cambridge, Mass. in 2010 and laugh, laugh, laugh at how these primitive idiots thought that they could control the natural warming and cooling cycles of the Earth.

And also because they voted overwhelmingly for Martha Coakley.


16 posted on 02/14/2010 7:42:22 PM PST by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

Cambridge is full of really smart Nazis.


17 posted on 02/14/2010 7:42:54 PM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

I needed a good laugh this evening. I see some very promising ideas.

- Banning meat from meals provided to the City Council and limiting the amounts of dairy served. I would go much further. I would force the city council to have a prolonged hunger strike.

- Providing citizens and businesses with 100-percent renewable energy within 20 years. After 20 years, Cambridge can remove themselves from the grid. They can experience full reliance on the wind and solar gods.

- Contests between neighborhoods for climate prizes. The neighborhood that boasts hottest indoor temperatures in the summer and coldest indoor tempearatures in the winter is the winner. The winner will receive no heat when temperaturs are above freezing. Air conditioning and fans will be fully offlimits in the summer.


18 posted on 02/14/2010 7:43:16 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: rcrngroup

They should raise taxes on Harvard to pay for it.


19 posted on 02/14/2010 7:44:44 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: Doohickey

Perhaps to hint at his being their polar opposite?


20 posted on 02/14/2010 7:45:01 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: businessprofessor

The government already wants to set our thermostats through a “SmartGrid”.

I want to see neighbors fighting over food. That would be a realistic test of the future of greenism.


21 posted on 02/14/2010 7:48:25 PM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: Doohickey

I think it is the name Omoh, or like around here, Omo.


22 posted on 02/14/2010 7:48:27 PM PST by healy61
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To: Doohickey
Why does that guy’s coat say “homo” spelled backward?

LOL! Cause that's the new Cambridge Police Dept. You gotta be gay to be a Cambridge cop. :-)

Actually the explanation for OMON is below:

OMON (Russian: Отряд милиции особого назначения; Otryad Militsii Osobogo Naznacheniya, Special Purpose Police Unit) (ОМОН) is a generic name for the system of special units of militsiya (police) within the Russian and earlier the Soviet MVD (Ministry of Internal Affairs). As of 2008, there is an OMON unit in every oblast of Russia, as well as in many major cities; for example, there is an OMON unit within the Moscow City police department, and a separate unit within Moscow Oblast police department. Their motto is "We know no mercy and do not ask for any."[1] OMON also continues to exist in Belarus and some other post-Soviet territories following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Contents

23 posted on 02/14/2010 7:52:37 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Bring out yer dead! Bring out your dead!" - Cries of a Navy Corpseman)
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To: ATX 1985

Dude. Stay out of my shower. I’m paying for the water.

Idiot.


24 posted on 02/14/2010 7:55:33 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Commonsensecommonman
I live in Central NY where it's about 80% State land, houses scattered around, most are just summer homes. According to the bureaucrats, last year our air quality registered as bad so new laws were imposed. Never mind that they fudged the numbers and lowered the standard that year. Previous years we were perfect.

If my extremely green area is bad, then there's no way that Cambridge could ever get green unless they demolish everything and move the people out.

25 posted on 02/14/2010 7:56:39 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: ATX 1985
"I think more people could be convinced to drive smaller cars and use less water"

Shove it, mangy Lib.


26 posted on 02/14/2010 7:57:11 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: I see my hands

I felt sort of bad after I called the lib an idiot. But not so much after seeing your post. I was wondering if I was the only one that caught that lib trying to sneak in here.


27 posted on 02/14/2010 8:02:03 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles
Dude. Stay out of my shower. I’m paying for the water. Idiot.

Are you talking to me? Boy some you are some anti-intellectual knee jerk fools. Did you even read the post? Did I say that I wanted some omnipotent force to raise the price of water? Just like oil, the price of water will rise because of population trends and SUPPLY AND DEMAND!
28 posted on 02/14/2010 8:02:03 PM PST by ATX 1985
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To: ATX 1985

You don’t want to spar with me. Your thought process is indicative of a young liberal. Your name calling proves that.


29 posted on 02/14/2010 8:04:17 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: ATX 1985

It is funny how some people just have no ability to think outside of the box. How many of y’all are just talking in the mirror here, this is group think at it’s worst.

Any different ideas and then all of a sudden you are a mangy liberal. You people are such fools, the younger generation of conservatives will be much different then y’all. In fact, I would argue that I am more conservative then many people here. It is funny how you fools get liberalism and LIBERTARIANISM mixed up.

Now, I am not fan of Ron Paul, but I wonder how many times he has been called a liberal on this forum.

You can hate the guy, but at least get y’alls terminology right!


30 posted on 02/14/2010 8:05:50 PM PST by ATX 1985
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To: Commonsensecommonman
"What would life in an American city look like if it required its residents go green to combat climate change?"

Target practice.

31 posted on 02/14/2010 8:08:20 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: goseminoles
You don’t want to spar with me. Your thought process is indicative of a young liberal. Your name calling proves that. HA HAHA H HA A hypocrite too huh? I hadn't even addressed anyone in this thread and my post was pretty respectable FILLED WITH CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES (localized politics is one of them by the way i.e. look at medical marijuana and the conservative Justices opinions in Raich vs Gonzales). Nevertheless, you chime in with this: Dude. Stay out of my shower. I’m paying for the water. Idiot. So please tell us, oh wise one, what is that INDICATIVE of??
32 posted on 02/14/2010 8:09:38 PM PST by ATX 1985
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To: ATX 1985

And your rally to get freepers to be empathetic to liberal lunacy environmental causes will fall on deaf ears here.

You will learn that conservatives base decisions on facts and not emotions.
Furthermore, conservatives care and contribute more to the preservation of the environment than liberals ever have.


33 posted on 02/14/2010 8:10:21 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: ATX 1985
"all of a sudden you are a mangy liberal"

Yeah, all the sudden, punk.


34 posted on 02/14/2010 8:10:28 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: JoeProBono

Check this out.


35 posted on 02/14/2010 8:17:47 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles
Furthermore, conservatives care and contribute more to the preservation of the environment than liberals ever have.

Wow jerk, really??? Maybe if you actually read through my post instead of having a knee jerk reaction and calling me an idiot, you would know that is exactly my opinion on the issue.

My parents are about as conservative as it gets, but they would be Global Warming advocates best friends! My Mom has always hounded me on turning lights off, taking short showers and not wasting food.


So, would you call someone a liberal for espousing this idea:

What if I said we would never run out of oil? One day, it will be at such a low supply and such a huge demand, wind mills and solar power would be more economically attractive and there will be no reason to pump oil out of the ground. Now, I think this trend will happen without the government intervening. In fact, I don't care who is office I will literally put my money on the fact that alternative energy and technology like water osmosis will be the foundation of the next equity boom and stock market bubble comparable to the last Tech Boom phenomena that originated in the early 80's.

Am I liberal for having that though process?
36 posted on 02/14/2010 8:18:42 PM PST by ATX 1985
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To: goseminoles
Check this out. OK Where
37 posted on 02/14/2010 8:21:24 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I live in Central NY where it's about 80% State land, houses scattered around, most are just summer homes. According to the bureaucrats, last year our air quality registered as bad so new laws were imposed. Never mind that they fudged the numbers and lowered the standard that year. Previous years we were perfect.

1998 - Central Florida was on fire. An entire county was evacuated. Due to our location and sea breezes we hardly ever have bad air quality so we've avoided the EPA regs in that regard. But early 1998 Central Florida was dry as a bone, a tinderbox just waiting for some lightning. When it came and the fires started, they were around for awhile.

Not long after the fires were out, the eco-nazis were hot on the trail to get EPA bad air quality regs instituted here in Central Florida because our long string of "bad air" days qualified us. Of course, the fact that the "bad air" days were due to forest fires escaped the burrocrats. It was all the same to them. In the end though we managed to avoid the heavy hand of the unelected EPA.

38 posted on 02/14/2010 8:26:17 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Bring out yer dead! Bring out your dead!" - Cries of a Navy Corpseman)
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To: ATX 1985

Conservative doesn’t mean short showers and turning lights off. Hitler’s mommy probably told him the same thing.
Look, I’m on a blackberry and its too much of a pain in the ass to argue all night. You are throwing out a lot of topics here including a lot of assumptions regarding oil and water. No doubt taught to you in school.


39 posted on 02/14/2010 8:30:03 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: JoeProBono

You crack me up.


40 posted on 02/14/2010 8:32:33 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

By the way, that “assumption” is EXACTLY what I heard on the Rush Limbaugh show. Please, don’t judge me. I have a subscription to the Weekly Standard for Gods sake! I maybe more in the mold of a “neo-con” like Charles Krauthammer, but please don’t call me a liberal. (i.e. Krauthammer is a self proclaimed ‘Global Warming Agnostic’)

I guess those two are liberals too though!!! Yeh freakin right.


41 posted on 02/14/2010 8:34:17 PM PST by ATX 1985
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Am I liberal for having that though process?

No. You're a liberal for thinking the oil will run out. They've been telling us that for decades. As a matter of fact, I think oil ran out in 1990, ten years after the Global Cooling decade ended. I've been driving my Flintstone mobile everywhere since then. Sure supply and demand may eventually drive us to the technologies you like. However, so far it's been the heavy hand of government that is making the wrong choices for us.

Think outside the box. Go gangbusters on nuclear. Make us energy independent with clean coal and natural gas. Convince your peers that clean diesel is where it's at and plugging in a car to charge it is for dopes. That the CARB idiots in California are clueless except where it advances their own power. Don't swim with the tide, swim against it.

42 posted on 02/14/2010 8:36:08 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Bring out yer dead! Bring out your dead!" - Cries of a Navy Corpseman)
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To: goseminoles
O RELY?


43 posted on 02/14/2010 8:38:46 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Commonsensecommonman

Shut down Harvard and the savings will go on for years as well as increase the intellectual level of the whole country.


44 posted on 02/14/2010 8:41:34 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ATX 1985
If we can convince people that being more environmentally conservative will save you money, I think more people could be convinced to drive smaller cars and use less water.

Use less water..lower your cost...
meanwhile the utility has to maintain the same facilities and work force
but now with a decreased revenue.

How do you suppose they would deal with this declining revenue?

45 posted on 02/14/2010 8:42:30 PM PST by kanawa
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To: VeniVidiVici

Ok? Like I need your advice on what I need to make my family and friends aware of? If you followed my posts from the start instead of a knee jerk reaction, you would see that I am only insisting on public awareness and that economic pressures will bring the rest. I honestly think that businesses and the American consumer will see these trends before they peak, and will be able to adapt to them. I voted for John McCain, whoever said I wasn’t an “all of the above” person.

It is so funny how you people are so caught up in group think. Anything that is against your set of beliefs is ‘liberal.’ What a joke.

By the way, that idea came from Rush Limbaugh. He said that. He said that oil would never run out, but would be at such a low demand and high supply that alternative energy will be attractive.

So, I guess he is a brainwashed liberal right?


46 posted on 02/14/2010 8:43:00 PM PST by ATX 1985
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To: ATX 1985

You be a neo-con if you wish.
Krauthammer is pro-abortion, anti-death penalty, and supports embryonic stem cell research.

Some conservative. Just another educated RINO.


47 posted on 02/14/2010 8:43:32 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: ATX 1985

“You people”= very telling.

Get off the forum you big dope.
BTW, Rush isn’t my idea of a reliable source. He’s entertainment.


48 posted on 02/14/2010 8:48:25 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: ATX 1985

Oh brother. A know-it-all punk. I love it. Go play in the street, junior. I was trying to be nice but you’re just a troll. Go suck on a gas pump.


49 posted on 02/14/2010 8:48:27 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Bring out yer dead! Bring out your dead!" - Cries of a Navy Corpseman)
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To: kanawa
Use less water..lower your cost... meanwhile the utility has to maintain the same facilities and work force but now with a decreased revenue. How do you suppose they would deal with this declining revenue?

Like with oil in the next 10 to 20 years, people will have to lower usage just to maintain current costs primarily because of supply and demand. I hate to make this argument solely about water though, it is really about everything. Everything should be expected to cost much more in the coming future, from paper to metal to energy. I think these rises in the price of the goods will naturally lead to less consumption of that particular commodity while the pressures will spawn great innovations.
50 posted on 02/14/2010 8:49:24 PM PST by ATX 1985
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