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Despite Netanyahu pressure, Russia defends Iran missile deal
Haaretz ^ | February 15, 2010 | Barak Ravid

Posted on 02/14/2010 8:13:18 PM PST by myknowledge

On the eve of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Moscow, senior Russian security officials were speaking out on defense-related issues that have provoked tensions between the two countries.

An hour before Netanyahu's plane took off on Sunday, Russian officials said that Moscow sees no reason to delay the sale of the S-300, a powerful air-defense system, to Iran. In addition, on Friday, Russian intelligence officials leaked comments expressing their displeasure with plans by an Israeli firm to close a major arms deal with Georgia.

"There is a signed contract [for the S-300 missiles] which we must follow through on, but deliveries have not started yet," Vladimir Nazarov, deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council secretary, told Interfax news agency in an interview. "This deal is not restricted by any international sanctions, because we are talking about deliveries of an exclusively defensive weapon."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; antiaircraft; iran; israel; russia; s300; sam

With Iran's acquisition of the S-300 (SA-20B Gargoyle), the Israeli Air Force will not be able to take out the nuke facilities without being shot down, because there is not a squadron of F-22 Raptors available.

1 posted on 02/14/2010 8:13:18 PM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Why were the hypocritical Bears whining about US controlled missile defense towers in Poland, anyhow? And why did Obama blink?


2 posted on 02/14/2010 8:20:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He didn’t blink. It’s just that he doesn’t work for the United States.


3 posted on 02/14/2010 8:48:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: 240B; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks myknowledge.


4 posted on 02/14/2010 8:49:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I concur.


5 posted on 02/14/2010 8:52:16 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2418483/posts?page=2663#2663

Delivery of these systems will put the hands to midnight, meaning that all the waiting (for perchance the overthrow of the mullahcracy by the Iranian people) has not worked out; not sure Israel will strike Iran first, probably strike its proxies. Israel prefers commando operations or covert ops (such as assassination, or abduction for trial in Israel). At the very least, ground observers will be present to verify the exact spot where the air strikes have to hit and to verify that the strikes were correctly carried out.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 9:52:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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7 posted on 02/14/2010 9:52:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: onyx

Thanks onyx.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 9:52:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv
He works for the globalist elite. Remember that.
9 posted on 02/14/2010 10:17:28 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge
>there is not a squadron of F-22 Raptors available

Even F-22 is not problem for Russian air defence technology

Russian "anti-stealth" radar NNIIRT 1L13 Nebo:

The most important thing that it can be integrated with S-300 SAM.

"Published performance data indicate that this radar has sufficient accuracy to be used as a battery target acquisition radar for the S-300PMU-1/2 / SA-20 Gargoyle and S-400 / SA-21 Growler Surface to Air Missile systems. Numerous Russian sources are citing exceptionally good performance against VLO/LO (stealth and stealthy targets) aircraft targets."
10 posted on 02/14/2010 11:20:07 PM PST by Primorsky
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To: myknowledge

Gog and Magog playing out.


11 posted on 02/15/2010 2:29:21 AM PST by bergmeid (Gas up the truck and pedal to the metal!)
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To: myknowledge

Cruise missiles from submarines. Though the S-400 is certainly capable of engaging them and perhaps the S-300 as well. The PMU-2 is supposed to be one of the latest models of the S-300 I believe.


12 posted on 02/15/2010 2:45:47 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: bergmeid

And Persia is joining the fray. Read Ezekiel 38 and 39 for more details.


13 posted on 02/15/2010 3:06:04 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: F15Eagle
Oh boy, oh boy.

The S-300 and S-400 (SA-20 and SA-21) family of long-range SAM batteries are the best area denial air defense system Russia has ever built and exported, matching or even marginally surpassing the latest Patriots.

S-400 (SA-21 Growler)

PAC-3 Patriot

I doubt the Israeli Air Force will ever be able to eliminate the Iranian nuke facilities unless it occurs prior to the SA-20 deployment in Iran, and the batteries could be possibly operated by IRIAF missile crews under Russian supervision.

Hate to break out the bad news, but the SA-20 deployment would give the Iranian IADS a huge boost in air defense capability, unifying the land and ship-based SAM and AAA batteries, along with radars and jet fighters under the IADS umbrella.

14 posted on 02/15/2010 3:16:19 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

One of the earmarks of the Gog-Magog war is that the other nations appear to strike Israel first. That has me wondering about the current situation.

If the S-300/S-400 is like the Patriot systems, then the missiles are sealed from the factory. Protected against moisture, dirt, bugs, etc.

Not only could they possibly be engaged by cruise missiles but the operator’s skill comes into play. Expecting an attack, they may be rather quick to launch, like the Syrians did in the Bekaa Valley.

Of course, one also has to factor in the Russian advisers (read that as “mercenaries”) paid to “advise”.

Once Iran tests a workable weapon, the clock will really be ticking.


15 posted on 02/15/2010 3:30:29 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Impy; TigersEye

Zero is giving them sanctions. Iran is so scared, a rooster could learn from the strutting.


16 posted on 02/15/2010 4:56:11 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: F15Eagle

We haven’t had Armageddon yet.


17 posted on 02/15/2010 4:57:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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18 posted on 02/15/2010 5:22:10 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I wonder if Israel will attack before November and thereby give Dems a boost in the US midterm elections, after Obama goes through the motions of “acting tough.”


19 posted on 02/15/2010 5:55:35 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: myknowledge

Well then maybe Israel should stop sending war material to Georgia...


20 posted on 02/15/2010 8:29:31 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I wonder if Israel will attack before November and thereby give Dems a boost in the US midterm elections, after Obama goes through the motions of “acting tough.”

I don't see how they can wait that long. As a matter of fact, I don't see how they've waited THIS long.
21 posted on 02/15/2010 8:42:40 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow (Worst. Community. Organizer. Ever!)
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To: eleni121

“Well then maybe Israel should stop sending war material to Georgia”

You really think that would stop the dleivery? Think again.


22 posted on 02/15/2010 9:42:45 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

There is a second war called Gog and Magog at the end of the Millennial Reign.

Armageddon can only commence once Israel has been betrayed for the last time. It starts over Jerusalem in Zech 12 and culminates in the Second Coming in Zech 14. And this is what Rev 19 shows (the Lord comes with His saints in each chapter).


23 posted on 02/15/2010 10:29:36 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
How about what we did and we're doing? Sending weapons to Saudis who then filter them through to the Taliban and al quada. Or how about releasing terrorists to the saudis who “rehab” them straight back to the battlefields to kill more of our treasure?

Don't get me started. But think about this.

Not one Iranian was involved in 9-11-— most of the others were Saudis...who came here with the good graces of the State dept.

24 posted on 02/15/2010 10:31:02 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: myknowledge

Isn’t this the same missile system that was suspected to have been aboard the Arctic Sea. The ship that was reportedly hijacked by someone (Israelis) and afterwards had its entire crew detain and sequestered in Moscow.

There never was a public reckoning on that incident. I kept looking for updates and developements, but it all faded away.

Looks like they’re going to try again and just force it through out in the open this time.


25 posted on 02/15/2010 10:31:06 AM PST by Sax
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To: Sax

MV Arctic Sea Incident:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Arctic_Sea


26 posted on 02/15/2010 10:33:37 AM PST by Sax
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To: eleni121

they were all Saudis I think. Sure. But that doesn’t mean we should sit back & let the iranian regime have nukes, defended by their russian missiles.


27 posted on 02/15/2010 10:37:35 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; eleni121

15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers had Saudi citizenship.

Several had come from other countries and obtained it. At least 4 or 5 I think.


28 posted on 02/15/2010 10:46:45 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“I wonder if Israel will attack before November and thereby give Dems a boost in the US midterm elections ...”

I don’t foresee much of a boost if any for Zero if that happned.


29 posted on 02/15/2010 10:47:46 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: F15Eagle

Amen, and the Euprhates must dry up for the 200 million serpents.


30 posted on 02/15/2010 10:50:53 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: myknowledge

Ha’aretz is a leftist newspaper.

Contrast this article from the centrist Jerusalem Post:

“None of the missiles have been delivered, Russian officials say, although there have been no public explanations for the delay. Some observers suggest Russia is holding back on the missiles to persuade Iran to back off on its nuclear ambitions.”

and

“On Monday, Medvedev welcomed Netanyahu and said Russia regards Israel as more than an ordinary partner.”

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=168784


31 posted on 02/15/2010 12:43:58 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

“Despite Netanyahu pressure, Russia defends Iran missile deal”
One word; SYRIA
Never saw israel coming. Iran won’t either.


32 posted on 02/15/2010 2:27:18 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: myknowledge

Israel could do it using ICBMs with with nuclear or tungsten warheads. A follow up raid by 100 F-16Is and 25 F-15Is escorted by 40+ F-15Cs would be nice.


33 posted on 02/15/2010 2:28:42 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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