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George Washington’s Tear-Jerker
The New York Times ^ | February 14, 2010 | JOHN R. MILLER

Posted on 02/15/2010 4:21:18 AM PST by Pharmboy

CIVILIAN control of the military is a cherished principle in American government. It was President Obama who decided to increase our involvement in Afghanistan, and it is Congress that will decide whether to appropriate the money to carry out his decision. It is the president and Congress, not the military, that will decide whether our laws should be changed to allow gays and lesbians to serve in our armed forces. The military advises, but the civilian leadership decides.

Yet if not for the actions of George Washington, whose birthday we celebrate, sort of, this month, America might have moved in a very different direction.

In early 1783, with Revolutionary War victory in sight but peace uncertain, Washington and the Continental Army bivouacked at Newburgh, N.Y. Troops were enraged by Congress’s failure to provide promised back pay and pensions. Rumors of mutiny abounded.

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Washington then opened a letter from a sympathetic congressman, but soon appeared to grow distracted. As his men wondered what was wrong, Washington pulled out a pair of glasses, which even his officers had never seen before. “Gentlemen,” he said, “you must pardon me, for I have grown not only gray but blind in the service of my country.”

The officers were stunned. Many openly wept. Their mutinous mood gave way immediately to affection for their commander.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: generalwashington; georgewashington; godsgravesglyphs; presidents; presidentsday; revwar
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To: savedbygrace

There were plenty of skirmishes. Yes it was being worked on, but no guarantees.

As for what the issue was, I think it’s very plain in the article that the point was GW helped avert military control of the government.


21 posted on 02/15/2010 6:12:34 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Uh, they ARE “civilians”, when it is defined as anyone non-military (strictly speaking).


22 posted on 02/15/2010 6:13:08 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Indeed.

Always look forward to your comments on these threads...

23 posted on 02/15/2010 6:14:02 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

Well, I have obviously been misled by an insufficient study. I must get some better resource books.

I apologize and stand corrected.


24 posted on 02/15/2010 6:14:44 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: the OlLine Rebel

See #24.


25 posted on 02/15/2010 6:15:31 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Pharmboy

I have heard this story numerous times. The only thing that amazes me here is that it appears in the NY Times at all.


26 posted on 02/15/2010 6:23:05 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Pharmboy

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27 posted on 02/15/2010 6:27:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: savedbygrace
I didn't mean to lay it on too thick, but there was a fair amount of death and destruction after Yorktown; however, most of these were skirmishes and not battles like Guilford Courthouse, Saratoga or Monmouth, so the fighting was minor compared to what happened BEFORE Yorktown.

And you are obviously a gentleman...

28 posted on 02/15/2010 6:28:04 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Yes...if this were published almost anywhere else, I would not have posted it. Anyone who has ever studied a bit about the RevWar or The General would indeed know this story, but since it was in the Times today, I thought it newsworthy.


29 posted on 02/15/2010 6:30:57 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping of interest: George Washington!


30 posted on 02/15/2010 6:32:33 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: savedbygrace

History “lessons” (including shows on TV) always gives the *impression* that the war ends with Cornwallis’ surrender.

It’s not as simple as that.

Just another example of how various basic history resources give wrong impressions. I’ve had such impressions on other aspects of history, myself, thanks to these tidy clean-ups. How about “the evil US” concentrated Japanese ethnics in camps for WWII - NOT beloved FDR. Or that Italians and Germans were also rounded up for same?


31 posted on 02/15/2010 6:34:45 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I meant Napoleon I.

Washington was, even in his life time, the yard stick against which the ‘republican’ leadership in post-revolutionary France was measured.

Napoleon I was keenly aware of the comparisons which were continuously made between Washington and himself. His enemies especially loved casting this comparison in his face.

It was done both during his rise to Empire and during his rule as Emperor. Having come to control on the tide of Republican sentiment, Napoleon hated being held to Republican ideals because, he was in fact a dictator who held and wielded more power than Louis ever had in France. Also, Napoleon I was more forceful and blunt in his methods than any American at that time or since would regard as ‘democratic’ OR ‘republican’’.

Much of the discord between Napoleon I and other (even puppet) officials of his Empire, Marshals, generals and publishers, etc. stemmed from Napoleon’s abandonment of strict ‘republican’ ideals, once he held power. Even some of his family challenged him on this. It was a regular tight-rope act of appearing Republican on the one hand and for example, gagging newspapers, crowning his siblings, etc. on the other.


32 posted on 02/15/2010 6:36:43 AM PST by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: Pharmboy
Yet if not for the actions of George Washington, whose birthday we celebrate, sort of,

Yep and given enough time they will do away with even this pitiful remembrance because Washington was an 'evil slave holding white guy'. So who do we in this country give homage to with their own holiday instead? The only American with a holiday? A communist/Marxist that many/most people fall over themselves as to what a great man he was... We are a sick nation.

33 posted on 02/15/2010 6:52:03 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Pharmboy
“Gentlemen,” he said, “you must pardon me, for I have grown not only gray but blind in the service of my country.”

Kinda puts our everyday 'problems' into perspective.

34 posted on 02/15/2010 7:05:29 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Pharmboy

Oh. Wasn’t meant as a criticism. Just observing NY Times aspect.

Sorry.


35 posted on 02/15/2010 7:28:45 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: StarCMC; Kathy in Alaska; Bethbg79; EsmeraldaA; MoJo2001; Brad's Gramma; laurenmarlowe; ...

forgive my using my Canteen ping list but the story touched me.


36 posted on 02/15/2010 7:39:41 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Lee'sGhost
It is difficult for tone to come across in posts. I, in fact, was agreeing with you and meant no disrespect in my post. As I said in my first post on this thread I believe it is news when the NY Times acknowledges the greatness of General Washington.

It is indeed rare when the libs acknowledge Washington's greatness...I think that February 22nd should be restored as a national holiday, and perhaps when a large number of these pretenders are kicked out in November, we can get that done.

37 posted on 02/15/2010 7:40:14 AM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

Happy Presidents Day bump.


38 posted on 02/15/2010 7:53:28 AM PST by aculeus
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To: SandRat

Thank you, Sandy! God bless the REAL heroes! They are still
being made!


39 posted on 02/15/2010 8:12:02 AM PST by luvie (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!)
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To: Pharmboy

None of this really matters since schools want to start American History as beginning in 1860.


40 posted on 02/15/2010 8:31:01 AM PST by Rebelbase
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