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John Quincy Adams - what he had to say about Islam
Mideast Outpost ^ | 01 OCT 2004 | Andrew Bostom, M.D.

Posted on 02/15/2010 8:16:05 AM PST by BCW

Of Muhammad and Islam, he writes:

“Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST; TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Capitals in original)...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam
Sorry - if this has been posted before, but I think it is important due to the recent events in Iran and the offensive going on in Afghan right now.
1 posted on 02/15/2010 8:16:06 AM PST by BCW
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To: BCW

Great read. Anyone who takes an honest look at Islam knows that it is a religion of war and intolerance, not peace. Always has been, always will be.

Even Hamas and Hezbollah admit that the current ‘peace’ process with Israel is only a step to finish off the Jews.


2 posted on 02/15/2010 8:20:34 AM PST by kingpins10
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To: BCW

ping for later...thanks


3 posted on 02/15/2010 8:22:08 AM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: BCW

bttt


4 posted on 02/15/2010 8:23:29 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: BCW

He nails it!


5 posted on 02/15/2010 8:23:41 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: BCW
And then America went and fought its FIRST WAR in its history against islamic fascism...

"to the shores of Tripoli"

6 posted on 02/15/2010 8:25:00 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: BCW

bttt


7 posted on 02/15/2010 8:27:08 AM PST by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: BCW

Well stated by JQA.


8 posted on 02/15/2010 8:30:15 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: 2banana

Glenn Beck did a show on leather necks a while back. The leather collar he showed gave me chills.


9 posted on 02/15/2010 8:31:54 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: BCW
And here's another item, to point out that Islam is due to take over this country in a generation to two generations from now. And it's going to happen, unless we make Islam totally illegal in this country. If not, then start teaching your grandkids how to live under Islam...

See the following from another post of mine...


That evil and oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam and the way of implementing it by Sharia law is already making inroads right here in this country — the good ole USA. We’re about to see a “takeover” of the U.S. by the evil and oppressive idealogy of the government of Islam (that is aiming for world-wide conquest and has stated that the U.S. is *on its list* to take over...)

And for those people who need some additional facts about what the evil and oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam is doing, look at some of the following.

There’s no question about it... the enemy is *Islam* itself and the evil and oppressive and false idealogy that it perpetrates. Some say the problem is “fascism” (instead of the basic oppressive governmental idealogy of Islam, itself). But, that is to engage in “political correctness” and nothing more... and sidetracks people from the *true enemy* in this war.

In one generation we’ll see, right here in the United States that “Islam” is the enemy and not “fascism”...

Muslim Demographics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

and also, this...

Islam: What the West Needs to Know - FULL LENGTH ENGLISH VERSION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

and then, looking at this...

“The Third Jihad” (video - abridged version of film)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2271522/posts

This is the allowance of “false gods” to take over this nation because of the ignorance of the people of the land in regards to the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...

And so, we see that we’re going to have the “false god of Islam” ruling over the USA and running the USA in just one generation from now.

10 posted on 02/15/2010 8:42:41 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: BCW

Mohammed was a greedy, power hungry pedophile. He invented a “religion” based upon the destruction of anyone or anything standing in his way to fame, fortune and self gratification. It’s really no more complicated than that!


11 posted on 02/15/2010 8:43:30 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: 2banana
And then America went and fought its FIRST WAR in its history against islamic fascism...

I think this was written around 25 years later after J.Q. Adams left the White House.

12 posted on 02/15/2010 8:49:47 AM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: 2banana
And then America went and fought its FIRST WAR in its history against islamic fascism

That was under John Quincy's father, the second President, and Thomas Jefferson, the third, and later James Madison, the fourth President. John Q was the sixth. The Barbary Wars were roughly 1801–1805 and 1815 John Q. Adams was President 1825 to 1829.

Earlier, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were envoys to France. They traveled to London to meet with the envoy of Tripoli and reported:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.

Or Not

Schooner, USS Enterprise, capturing the Tripolitan Corsair TRIPOLI.

13 posted on 02/15/2010 8:51:01 AM PST by El Gato
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To: goodwithagun

I’m confused? When God gave these Commandments to Moses for the Children of Israel (the Jews) where does the Muslim interpretation enter in unless it’s from the Koran?

The Ten Commandments
Exodus. 20:1-20 And God spoke all these words: “I am the LORD your God . . .

Commandments regarding our relationship to God
I. “You shall have no other gods before me.

II. “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments.

III. “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

IV. “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
Commandments regarding our relationship to our fellow men
V. “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.

VI. “You shall not murder.

VII. “You shall not commit adultery.

VIII. “You shall not steal.

IX. “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

X. “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neig


14 posted on 02/15/2010 8:51:39 AM PST by conservativesister
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To: kalee

for later reading


15 posted on 02/15/2010 8:52:33 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: conservativesister

Islam is the only religion that does not have a basic rights for humanity - all others religious system center around universal accepted norms of good will towards mankind - there was a study back in the 1800’s I think that pointed this out...before Islam made their way out of the M.E. with oil funds...


16 posted on 02/15/2010 9:01:26 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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To: BCW

Wow. He did nail it.


17 posted on 02/15/2010 9:08:44 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: kingpins10
Great read. Anyone who takes an honest look at Islam knows that it is a religion of war and intolerance, not peace. Always has been, always will be.

Even Hamas and Hezbollah admit that the current ‘peace’ process with Israel is only a step to finish off the Jews.

Most core is the controlling of females and the taking of female children for sexual reasons. War and death to other males is to control females as their property for sex.

The ancient version of blow-up love dolls. It's always been about sex and only sex.

18 posted on 02/15/2010 9:14:04 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: kingpins10
B b b b b but GW said it was a "Religion of Peace!"

Just who are we to believe!

Do I need a /sarcasm?

19 posted on 02/15/2010 9:18:47 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: BCW
John Quincy Adams' 1839 "Jubilee" Address in New York City, which provides one of the best reviews of America's ideas of liberty, as laid out in its Declaration and Constitution, also included these remarks, as excerpted from:

"The relations of the United States with the other powers of the world, were then slight and of trifling importance, in comparison with what they were destined to become. In their colonial state their commercial intercourse had been restricted almost exclusively to the mother-country's. Their political relations were only those of a subordinate dependence of a great empire.

"The Declaration of Independence recognized the European law of nations, as practiced among Christian nations, to be that by which they considered themselves bound, and of which they claimed the rights. This system is founded upon the principle, that the state of nature between men and between nations, is a state of peace. But there was a Mahometan law of nations, which considered the state of nature as a state of war - an Asiatic law of nations, which excluded all foreigners from admission within the territories of the state - a colonial law of nations, which excluded all foreigners from admission within the colonies - and a savage Indian law of nations, by which the Indian tribes within the bounds of the United States, were under their protection, though in a condition of undefined dependence upon the governments of the separate states. With all these different communities, the relations of the United States were from the time when they had become an independent nation, variously modified according to the operation of those various laws. It was the purpose of the Constitution of the United States to establish justice over them all.

"The commercial and political relations of the Union with the Christian European nations, were principally with Great Britain, France, and Spain, and considerably with the Netherlands and Portugal. With all these there was peace; but with Britain and Spain, controversies involving the deepest interests and the very existence of the nation, were fermenting, and negotiations of the most humiliating character were pending, from which the helpless imbecility of the confederation afforded no prospect of relief. With the other European states there was scarcely any intercourse. The Baltic was an unknown sea to our navigators, and all the rich and classical regions of the Mediterranean were interdicted to the commercial enterprise of our merchants, and the dauntless skill of our mariners, by the Mahometan merciless warfare of the Barbary powers. Scarcely had the peace of our independence been concluded, when three of our merchant-vessels had been captured by the corsairs of Algiers, and their crews, citizens of the Union, had been pining for years in slavery, appealing to their country for redemption, in vain. Nor was this all. By the operation of this state of things, all the shores of the Black sea, of the whole Mediterranean, of the islands on the African coast, of the southern ports of France, of all Spain and of Portugal, were closed against our commerce, as if they had been hermetically sealed; while Britain, everywhere our rival and competitor was counteracting by every stimulant within her power every attempt on our part to compound by tribute with the Barbarian for peace.

"Great Britain had also excluded us from all commerce in our own vessels with her colonies, and France, notwithstanding her alliance with us during the war, had after the conclusion of the peace adopted the same policy. She was jealous of our aggrandizement, fearful of our principles, linked with Spain in the project of debarring us from the navigation of the Mississippi, and settled in the determination to shackle us in the development of the gigantic powers which, with insidious sagacity, she foresaw might be abused.

"Notwithstanding all these discouragements, the inextinguishable spirit of freedom, which had carried your forefathers through the exterminating war of the Revolution, was yet unsuppressed. At the very time when the nerveless confederacy could neither protect nor redeem their sailors from Algerian captivity, the floating city of the Taho beheld the stripes and stars of the Union, opening to the breeze from a schooner of thirty tons, and inquired where was the ship of which that frail fabric was doubtless the tender. The Southern ocean was stiff vexed with the harpoons of their whalemen; but Britain excluded their oil, by prohibitory duties and the navigation act, from her markets, and the more indulgent liberality of France would consent to the illumination of her cities by the quakers of Nantucket, only upon condition that they should forsake their native island, and become the naturalized denizens of Dunkirk."

20 posted on 02/15/2010 9:48:58 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: kingpins10
Their Guide Book


21 posted on 02/15/2010 9:49:14 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: BCW
Re-post or not...Always important history...
22 posted on 02/15/2010 10:19:45 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: BCW
Excellent post!

it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated -- John Quincy Adams

At the very least, boot them out of the US! But, of course, we do nothing. Instead, we praise them (read Bush's and Obama's comments), we build more mosques, we promote them even when they are raving against the US (Hassan), we allow more of them to immigrate to our country, we build prayer rooms for them at airports, we allow their prayer calls on loudspeakers at 4am (Obama has said it's one of the prettiest sounds on Earth), we have national days of prayer for them, etc etc.

I think John Quincy Adams would be shocked at how accommodating we are towards our enemy.

23 posted on 02/15/2010 11:27:13 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Be strip-searched by scanners! Buy ObamaCare or go to jail! The Totalitarians are in charge!!!)
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