Skip to comments.College Acquaintance: Young Obama Was ‘Pure Marxist Socialist’ (radio interview)
Posted on 02/16/2010 7:28:43 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
John C. Drew: "He definitely saw America as the enemy."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.tv ...
Obama Espoused Radical Views in College [advocated communist revolution!]
Steve Malzberg - WOR News Talk Radio 710 ^ | February 12, 2010 | Ronald Kessler
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 7:33:56 PM by ETL
Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.
During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.
Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together, Drew says. We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.
For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.
He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth, says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.
The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others, Drew says. That this was the secret of their wealth, that they werent paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.
Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society. ...”
Referring to Obamas quote from Dreams of My Father that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, What hes not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obamas later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wrights ideology.
where was the person 15 or 16 months ago? we need to vett these folks carefully....they could be set ups.
though i do believe hussein is a closet commie. :)
What will Gibbs have to say about this?
If I had a nickel for every “duh” murmured at this reading I could buy Texas.
Article title: "Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling"
By CPUSA Chairman Sam Webb
"We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"
A second video of same in case the first 'disappears' from YouTube:
Yahoo search results for "Fundamentaly Transforming The United States Of America":
From the website of the Communist Party, USA...
(prior to the election)
"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.
The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."
After the election....
A Landslide Mandate For Change
A breakthrough election
Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!
We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-peoples movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all peoples movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.
The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and peoples unity.
There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.
The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.
July 1, 2009...
Change is Here, Change is Coming
Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party, USA:
Let me begin with a simple observation: If the last 30 years were an era of reaction, then the coming decade could turn into an era of reform, even radical reform. Six months into the Obama presidency, I would say without hesitation that the landscape, atmosphere, conversation, and agenda have strikingly changed compared to the previous eight years.
In this legislative session, we can envision winning a Medicare-like public option and then going further in the years ahead.
We can visualize passing tough regulatory reforms on the financial industry, which brought the economy to ruin.
We can imagine the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan while U.S. representatives participate in a regional process that brings peace and stability to the entire region.
In the current political climate, the expansion of union rights becomes a real possibility.
Much the same can be said about winning a second stimulus bill, and we sure need one, given the still-rising rate, and likely long term persistence, of unemployment.
Isnt it possible in the Obama era to create millions of green jobs in manufacturing and other sectors of the economy in tandem with an attack on global warming?
Cant we envision taking new strides in the long journey for racial and gender equality in this new era, marked at its beginning by the election of the first African American to the presidency?
And isnt the overhaul of the criminal justice and prison system a system steeped in racism no longer pie-in-the sky, but something that can be done in the foreseeable future?
All these things are within reach now!
"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."
Well he was right when predicting “there would be a revolution of the working class”
There called tax payers
I understand what you mean, but we the civil people, producers in this nation are not rebelling or the image behind a revolution... We the people are taking a stand against a bunch of revolutionaries that intend on destroying this nation by hook or crook erasing the middle class.
No surprise there, the current incarnation of obama is also (still) Pure Marxist Socialist. His handlers and the lamestream media propaganda machine don't even try to deny it anymore.
Obama Nation Billboard Draws Attention
New Sign Along I-70 Has Motorists Talking
POSTED: October 1, 2009
We don't know these people from beans, and so far, other than a couple of people at Harvard, we have yet to hear from anyone who even knew him, to say nothing of what he believed.
Believe, but verify. Where are the records, yearbook, pictures, etc?
And where were these people during the election, and we are supposed to be surprised....unbelievable. Evidently they thought he would invite them to WH? HA!
Thomas Jefferson warned that “The Enemy Within the Gates is a Thousand Fold More Dangerous than those Outside the Gates!” OBOZO is planted inside “THE WHITE HOUSE with the Keys to Everything!” May Our Wonderful GOD SAVE US FROM THE ENEMY!”
Sounds like an exact quote from his Tirade with Joe the Plumber, taking from the Producers to give to the Bums!
I can’t believe there are no stories about him from his fellow classmates from college. That is a very formative time in one’s life. No dates, no parties, no demonstrations from the One? If i would’ve been a friend of a President, I wouldn’t be shy about it. Who is this guy?
Who Is President Obama? Thoughts on Recent News Regarding His Marxist College Days
John C. Drew
Why has my 15 minutes of fame kicked in now...and not in September 2008? A couple of reasons come to mind:
1. Increased Social Media Visibility: I think part of the difference now is that I have access to websites like ResistNet. I’m also active on Twitter. Augustine 25, for example, has about 47,500 followers. I’ve also got a blog, The Anonymous Political Scientist, which has had over 4,900 hits - over 500 in the last 48 hours.
2. Increased Plausibility: It’s more plausible now that Obama really is a socialist. We’ve seen him in action with cap and trade, fighting for the public option in health care, and engaging in a job destroying stimulus package.
3. Increased Interest in Barack Obama: Now BarackObama is President, people want to know all about him. In this context, his thoughts as a college sophomore are suddenly more relevant simply because he has been elected our President. As a candidate, Obama’s college days were not as newsworthy.
4. Scott Brown’s Historic Victory: It may be that journalists are comfortable being more aggressive with this story line because of Scott Brown’s victory in MA. After all, my entry into this debate was initially only as a cheerleader encouraging folks like Ronald Kessler to keep pursuing the story that Obama is a socialist ideologue and not really a centrist.
5. Increased Credibility for John C. Drew, Ph.D.: Finally, it may be that I inadvertantly increased my own credibility when I posted my old Williams College ID Card on the Anonymous Political Science website on January 23, 2010. This was tangible evidence I was a “professor” and it gave journalists like Ronald Kessler more confidence to look into my story.
At any rate, I’ll be curious to hear your feedback. My gut feeling is that the environment changed, and that my behavior had little to do with this increased visibility. I’ve placed news stories before. Nevertheless, it has been a puzzle for me to figure out how to penetrate the modern mainstream media with my story. My new (old) theory is that people like to read articles that confirm their own beliefs and impressions. A lot of people have already concluded that Obama is a Marxist socialist who is anxious to redistribute the wealth. In this context, my little story seems a lot more interesting today than it was in the fall of 2008.
Closet commie? Jeez, he’s done everything except change his party affiliation to the CPUSA.
ZERO is ZERO because he is The Phantom! Obama’s History is ZERO! NADA!! DISAPPEARED!! WHY??? WHY??? WHY would Anyone VOTE for a ZERO?? How did AMERICA get itself Conned by the World Communists??
Obama was probably the guy who cut class so many times nobody saw him there to remember. I cannot imagine him getting up for a morning class—that’s too much like work.
Obama's 1983 College Magazine Article
["Breaking the War Mentality"]
"In 1983, at the height of the cold war, Barack Obama, then a senior at Columbia University, wrote in a campus newsmagazine about the vision of "a nuclear free world." The article in the Sundial profiled two campus groups: Arms Race Alternatives and Students Against Militarism."
Most students at Columbia do not have first hand knowledge of war. Military violence has been a vicarious experience, channeled into our minds through television, film, and print.
The more sensitive among us struggle to extrapolate experiences of war from our everyday experience, discussing the latest mortality statistics from Guatemala, sensitizing ourselves to our parents' wartime memories, or incorporating into our framework of reality as depicted by a Mailer[^] or a Coppola. But the taste of war -- the sounds and chill, the dead bodies -- are remote and far removed. We know that wars have occurred, will occur, are occurring, but bringing such experience down into our hearts, and taking continual, tangible steps to prevent war, becomes a difficult task.
Two groups on campus, Arms Race Alternatives (ARA) and Students Against Militarism (SAM) work within these mental limits to foster awareness and practical action necessary to counter the growing threat of war. Though the emphasis of the two groups differ, they share an aversion to current government policy. These groups, visualizing the possibilities of destruction and grasping the tendencies of distorted national priorities, are throwing their weight into shifting America off the dead-end track.
"Most people my age remember well the air-raid drills in school, under the desk with our heads tucked between our legs. Older people, they remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think these kinds of things left an indelible mark on our souls[^], so we're more apt to be concerned," says Don Kent, assistant director of programs and student activities at Earl Hall Center. Along with the community Volunteer Service Center, ARA has been Don's primary concern, coordinating various working groups of faculty, students, and staff members, while simultaneously seeking the ever elusive funding for programs.
"When I first came here two years ago, Earl Hall had been a holding tank for five years. Paul Martin (director of Earl Hall) and I discussed our interests, and decided that ARA would be one of the programs we pushed." Initially, most of the work was done by non-student volunteers and staff. "Hot issues, particularly El Salvador, were occupying students at the time. Consequently, we cosponsored a lot of activities with community organizations like SANE (Students Against Nuclear Energy)."
With the flowering of the nuclear freeze movement, and particularly the June 12 rally in Central Park, however student participation has expanded. One wonders whether this upsurge stems[^] from young people's penchant for the latest 'happenings' or from growing awareness of the consequences of nuclear holocaust. ARA maintains a mailing list of 500 persons and Don Kent estimates that approximately half of the active members are students. Although he feels that continuity is provided by the faculty and staff members, student attendance at ARA sponsored events -- in particular a November 11 convocation on the nuclear threat -- reveals a deep reservoir of concern. "I think students on this campus like to think of themselves a sophisticated, and don't appreciate small vision. So they tend to come out more for the events; they do not want to just fold leaflets."
Mark Bigelow, a graduate intern from Union Theological Seminary who works with Don to keep ARA running smoothly, agrees. "It seems that students here are fairly aware of the nuclear problem, and it makes for an underlying frustration. We try to talk to that frustration." Consequently, the thrust of ARA is towards generating dialogue which will give people a rational handle on this controversial subject. This includes bringing speakers like Daniel Ellsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament, and world order.
Tied in with such a thrust is the absence of what Don calls "a party line." By taking an almost apolitical approach to the problem, ARA hopes to get the university to take nuclear arms issues seriously. "People don't like having their intelligence insulted," says Don. "so we try to disseminate information and allow the individual to make his or her own decision."
Generally, the narrow focus of the Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that "everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice," one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues[^], severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself. Mark Bigelow does not think so. "We do focus primarily on catastrophic weapons. Look, we say, here's the worst part . Let's[^] work[^] on that. You're not going to get rid of the military in the near future, so let's at least work on this."
Mark Bigelow does feel that the links are there, and points to fruitful work being done by other organizations involved with disarmament. "The Freeze is one part of a whole[^] disarmament movement. The lowest common denominator, so to speak. For instance, April 10-16 is Jobs For Peace week, with a bunch of things going on around the city. Also, the New York City Council may pass a resolution in April calling for greater social as opposed to military spending. Things like this may dispel the idea that disarmament is a white issue, because how the government spends its revenue affects everyone."
The very real advantages of concentrating on a single issue is leading the National Freeze movement to challenge individual missile systems, while continuing the broader campaign. This year, Mark Bigelow sees the checking of Pershing II and Cruise missile deployment as crucial. "Because of their small size and mobility, their deployment will make possible arms control verification far more difficult, and will cut down warning time for the Soviets to less than ten minutes. That can only be a destabilizing factor[^]." Additionally, he sees the initiation by the U.S. of the Test Ban Treaty as a powerful first step towards a nuclear free world.
ARA encourages members to join buses to Washington and participate in a March 7-8 rally intended to push through the Freeze resolution which is making its second trip through the House. ARA also will ask United Campuses to Prevent Nuclear War (UCAM), an information and lobbying network based in universities, nationwide, to serve as its advisory board in the near future. Because of its autonomy from Columbia (which does not fund political organizations), UCAM could conceivably become a more active arm of disarmament campaigns on campus, thought the ARA will continue to function solely as a vehicle for information and discussion.
Also operating out of Earl Hall Center, Students Against Militarism was formed in response to the passage of registration laws in 1980. An entirely student-run organization, SAM casts a wider net than ARA, though for the purposes of effectiveness, they have tried to lock in on one issue at a time.
"At the heart of our organization is an anti-war focus," says junior Robert Kahn, one of SAM's fifteen or so active members. "From there, a lot of issues shoot forth -- nukes, racism, the draft, and South Africa. We have been better organized when taking one issue at a time, but we are always cognizant of other things going on, and collaborate frequently with other campus organizations like CISPES [CISPES link added by myself -etl] and REELPOLITIK."
At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration. The law requires that all male students applying for federal financial aid submit proof of registration, or else the government coffers will close. Yale, Wesleyan, and Swathmore have refused to comply, and plan to offer non-registrants other forms of financial aid. SAM hopes to press Columbia into following suit, though so far President Sovern and company seem prepared to acquiesce to the bill.
Robert believes students tacitly support non-registrants, though the majority did not comply. "Several students have come up to our tables and said that had they known of the ineffectiveness of the prosecution, they would not have registered." A measure of such underlying support is the 400 signatures on a petition protesting the Solomon Bill, which SAM collected the first four hours it appeared. Robert also points out that prior to registration, there were four separate bills circulating in the House proposing a return to the draft, but none ever got out of committees, and there have not been renewed efforts. An estimated half-million non-registrants can definitely be a powerful signal.
Prodding students into participating beyond name signing and attending events is tricky, but SAM members seem undaunted. "A lot of the problem comes not from people's ignorance of the facts, but because the news and statistics are lifeless. That's why we search for campus issues like the Solomon bill that have direct impact on the student body, and effectively link the campus to broader issues." By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the country. "The time is right to tie together social and military issues," Robert continues, "and the more strident the Administration becomes, the more aware people are of their real interests."
The belief that moribund institutions, rather than the individuals, are at the root of the problem, keep SAM's energies alive. "A prerequisite for members of an organization like ours is the faith that people are fundamentally good, but you need to show them, and when you look at the work people are doing across the country, it makes you optimistic."
Perhaps the essential goodness of humanity is an arguable proposition, but by observing the SAM meeting last Thursday night, with its solid turnout and enthusiasm, one might be persuaded that the manifestations of our better instincts can at least match the bad ones. Regarding Columbia's possible compliance, one comment in particular hit upon an important point with the Solomon bill, "The thing we need to do is expose how Columbia is talking out of two sides of its mouth."
Indeed, the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, is that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy. What members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part. By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience--that of war. But then, there are some things we shouldn't have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:30:27 PM by Ultra Sonic 007:
Side note: Obama also mentions in the '83 article the org, CISPES (Committee In Solidarity with the People of El Salvador). They apparently are still around, and are as red as ever.
From their website...
"CISPES joins the Alliance for Global Justice, SOA Watch, and other members of the Latin America Solidarity Coalition in denouncing today's coup in Honduras. CISPES committees are joining rallies at consulates around the country to demand the reinstatement of the democratically elected Honduran president."
The CISPES Mission Statement:
"We are a grassroots organization dedicated to supporting the Salvadoran peoples struggle forself-determination and social and economic justice. The alternative that they are building --an alternative based upon democratic and socialist ideals--is an example to all people who seek a world free of domination and exploitation. We support that alternative because we believe that capitalism is a fundamentally unjust, oppressive and ecologically unsustainable economic system. We join with poor and working people, immigrants and refugees in the struggle against neoliberalism-- the current manifestation of capitalism imposed by the United States government and its state, institutional and corporate allies. Neoliberal policies continue to produce enormous suffering and destabilization around the world. We focus our work on El Salvador because of the U.S. governments continuing military, economic, and political intervention on behalf of U.S. corporate interests, and because the Salvadoran peoples tenacious and inspiring struggle to build social justice."
Exactly what I was gonna say. I wish more of these people would come out of the woodwork. His past has been scrubbed cleaner than an OR.
The hunt for Obamas senior thesis began with a throwaway line in a newspaper article last October. The New York Times story, on Obamas early New York years, mentioned in passing that the presidential contender had majored in political science at Columbia and had spent his time writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament.
Journalists began hounding Columbia University for copies of the musty document. Conservative bloggers began wondering if the young Obama had written a no-nukes screed that he might come to regret. And David Bossie, the former congressional investigator and right-wing hit man, as one newspaper described him, took out classified newspaper ads in Columbia Universitys newspaper and the Chicago Tribune in March searching for the term paper.
Bossie came up dry, but said the effort was well worth it:
A thesis entitled Soviet Nuclear Disarmament, written at the height of The Cold War in 1983, might shed some light upon what Barack Obama thought about our most pressing foreign policy issue for 40-plus years (U.S.-Soviet Relations), he wrote in an e-mail to NBC News.
Here is the passage from the New York Times that the above article refers to:
"He barely mentions Columbia, training ground for the elite, where he transferred in his junior year, majoring in political science and international relations and writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament. He dismisses in one sentence his first community organizing job work he went on to do in Chicago though a former supervisor remembers him as 'a star performer.'"
"he [Obama] declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years.
'He doesnt remember the names of a lot of people in his life,' said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman."
Obamas Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say
By JANNY SCOTT, October 30, 2007:
From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)
IPSs [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.
The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."
[lots more at link...]
From the website of Riverside Church...
The Riverside Church
490 Riverside Drive
New York, New York 10027
The Riverside Church is located on Manhattans Upper West Side near Columbia University.
"She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of 'peace.'
In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations."
From the Columbia University website...
"Obama attended Columbia College from 1981 to 1983"
Bill Ayers' education:
1987 - Ed.D, Columbia University, Curriculum & Instruction
1987 - M.Ed, Teachers College, Columbia University, Early Childhood Education
1984 [he completed degree in '84] - M.Ed, Bank Street College, Early Childhood Education
1968 - B.A., University of Michigan, American Studies
Bank Street College
Where We Are and How to Get Here:
Bank Street College is located on the Upper West Side of Manhattan at 610 West 112th Street, between Broadway and Riverside Drive.
Bank Street College is located in a bustling family and university neighborhood four blocks from Columbia University
Why Wont Obama Talk About Columbia?
The years he wont discuss may explain the Ayers tie he keeps lying about:
Quite frankly I am shocked he hasn’t raised the hammer and sickle over the White House.
Thank you, ETL for all the great info.
Well, they gave plenty of signals to the commie left regarding who and what they were. "Change", and "fundamentally transformation of America" were the most obvious.
"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
note the red communist star on his shirt
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
You’re welcome. Thank YOU for all your great and important threads!
Weenie Joe Lieberman said: "Id hesitate to say hes a Marxist, but hes got some positions that are far to the left of me and I think mainstream America."
Gee, yeah, ya think?
At least Tom DeLay got it right. "I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, [Barack Obama] is a Marxist."
I hate those commie a-*s. I spent most of my life fighting the cold war as did MANY and it was for nothing. Now there’s a lousy commie in the White House. Crap.
I went to DC on a CISPES march once, must have been spring ‘81 or so. Clueless wonders. Spending face time with those folks is helpful in the journey to becoming a Reaganite.
Sad but true, sure the administration will take credit for saving/creating the sign installers job.
on election night Nov ‘08, he gave the signal to the world indicating what he is.
What’s bad is people still believe in him and are in the process of throwing away their God-given freedoms.
Just need to keep voting these idiots out of office, another victory in Alabama today I hear.
Someone should track down the interview Obama did for the Harvard Law School — THE HARVARD RECORD. There’s at least one in existence and nowhere to be found. Microfilm is available in about 40 law libraries.
We all knew it here, long before the election, not enough people listened to us! This is no surprise to Freepers!
Obama is a socialist-marxist who hates America, Israel, capitalism and Jews. TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY 2012!!!!
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