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New Approach Would Let High Schoolers Graduate Early
New York Times ^ | February 17, 2010 | Sam Dillon

Posted on 02/17/2010 7:23:03 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Some are and some aren’t emotionally mature. Let the ones that are out of HS and stop wasting their time, I would have LOVED this program and probably thrived, my husband - not so much.


21 posted on 02/17/2010 8:01:34 AM PST by Cathy
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To: reaganaut1

The debate on this thread is a great start on the argument that there should be no US Department of Education. The quality of early and high-schoool education differs widely depending on how (and where) you school.


22 posted on 02/17/2010 8:06:14 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: hal ogen

Been there, done it and got the T-shirt.

High School is for lamo’s. I found it boring and even turned in papers from earlier grades as the ground they were covering was identical.

Since it was and I had received A’s I thought why not. I’m a busy guy and if they want to repeat the same stuff from 3rd grade or 8th grade, “then here you go. Where’s my grade?”.

I received the same grade for turning in the same paper. Teachers and students alike ain’t that bright.

Though sometimes I wish I had learned Algebra but, I couldn’t see how it would ever fit into my life. It’s suppose to make you think through but most of it was pointless.

Funny thing is I used Algebraic equations in Mechanical drafting and had no problem with them, as they were useful.

What can I say about High School? Nothing.

I was glad to leave and do something else.

Now I is a high income earner and still don’t think the choice to leave was ill conceived.


23 posted on 02/17/2010 8:06:22 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: wireplay

Totally agree. At 15, I was in college, living on my own and never wanted to do anything except what I wanted to do.

Difference between me and those with pedigrees? I continue to read, work problems through and learn.

Learning is one of the great pleasures in life.


24 posted on 02/17/2010 8:08:34 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Oldexpat

those dummies need to stay in school. Besides, it keeps them occupied with something to do.


25 posted on 02/17/2010 8:16:44 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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My parents and grandparents did not have 12th grade. If leaving early is optional, then I say let the mature ones move on to college or learn a trade. Maybe it would free up the teachers to actually do their jobs and teach the remaining seniors.


26 posted on 02/17/2010 8:18:40 AM PST by texan75010
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To: reaganaut1

I finished HS Early, was going to college 1.5 years before my graduation date. I just didn’t goof off in School, no “Study Halls” or Joke classes. I took all the math and science and English classes and graduated with all requirements. It was easy, first class in college was Chem and Geography along with LIT I, and Public Speaking. I did fine. Kids that are in AP and Finish all the College Prep and do well will have no problem. Others, well, they barely make it out of HS.


27 posted on 02/17/2010 8:18:44 AM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: reaganaut1

Sounds like a liberal’s solution to the problem-as the kids drop out, hand them a diploma- the drop out problem is solved.


28 posted on 02/17/2010 8:19:08 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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That is not at all what is being described in this article nor is it how the program I'm familiar with works.

How do you propose we deal with the dropout rate?

29 posted on 02/17/2010 8:30:28 AM PST by carolinablonde ("The Constitution protects all of us, not just those on the left." - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: reaganaut1

Just what colleges need ... a bunch of 16 year old girls....

I predict a surge in statutory rapes.


30 posted on 02/17/2010 8:34:26 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (November is coming.)
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To: Mr. K

Maybe they will be prompted to start a business, or learn to appreciate the value of a dollar.


31 posted on 02/17/2010 9:14:57 AM PST by willyd (Reducing Taxes Reduces our Carbon Footprint)
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My eldest homeschooled daughter did this (but just for a year). It gave her a lot of credibility at 4-year college application time, that she was taking a full credit load at a community college and had a 4.0 GPA there

Congrats on her 4.0...my kid wasn't that diligent, LOL. He maintained around a 3.6-3.8 for all of his college career, but had a saying "B's earn degrees too"...with which he'd placate us if he received a B in a class.

The dual credit program was well thought of, and our son had no problem being accepted into a university to finish his Bachelors and then into grad school to earn his Masters. Plus it really streamlined the education process, he graduated w/his BA at 19, and his Masters at 21. In his circle of friends, I probably know 10, maybe 15, kids who have gone the same route. Our local CC now has what they call a Collegiate High School, right on the grounds of the CC, and the kids have a place to go during breaks in their class schedule. This is handy for parents who can't ferry their kids back and forth to the campus (which was a pain since the first year in the program our kid was 15 and didn't have his driver's license.)

32 posted on 02/17/2010 9:25:18 AM PST by dawn53
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To: reaganaut1

Just another band aid on a system that is a monumental failure. What difference does it make giving those diplomas earlier? Diplomas are given now to functional illiterates and have been for decades.

These bone head so called educators need to teach children the basics. Kids are getting that worhless piece of paper when they can’t count well enough to make change correctly in MacDonald’s. America’s public schools are a national disgrace and the politicians refuse to do anything about it.

Those cowards fear the teacher’s unions too much to make waves. They are a bunch of whores.


33 posted on 02/17/2010 9:32:10 AM PST by SkipW
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I disagree with this because I don’t think kids at these ages are emotionally mature enough to make the decisions needed to plan their lives after high school

My grandmother graduated from HS at 16 (when you only went 11 years in Texas) and the University of Houston at 19. She did pretty well all her life.

A friend of mine in HS graduated a year early and then from Abilene Christian in 3 years.

34 posted on 02/17/2010 9:37:54 AM PST by TWfromTEXAS (Life is the one choice that pro choicers will not support.)
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To: dawn53

That’s interesting. We homeschool and that’s kind of the plan we have for our boy. He is already a year ahead of his public school peers in most classes. Shouldn’t be too hard to move that up another year between 4th and 10th grad.

So our thought was to graduate him from HS in 10th grade and then send him to a local community college for a couple of years. Then he can make his choice about college.

The one problem I see with that is that we are using the K-12 curriculum. I think by 11th and 12th grade, it’s quite a bit more rigorous than a typical community college. So there would be some sacrifice in educational quality by sending him to a CC. OTOH, he would have a couple of years to slide into college life while living at home.


35 posted on 02/17/2010 9:48:30 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: reaganaut1

http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/marc_tucker/

The same Marc S. Tucker mentioned in the article who is great friends of Hillary Clinton. Remember “School to Work”?


36 posted on 02/17/2010 10:06:07 AM PST by goldi (')
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