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George Will: Sarah Palin and the mutual loathing society
The Washington Post ^ | February 18, 2010 | George F. Will

Posted on 02/17/2010 8:27:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: richace
Nixon, Ford, HW Bush, Dole.

Man that is quite the comparison.

51 posted on 02/17/2010 9:10:16 PM PST by byteback
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She is feisty and public-spirited, and millions of people vibrate like tuning forks to her rhetoric. When she was suddenly forced to take a walk on the highest wire in America's political circus, she showed grit.

She also showed that grit is no substitute for seasoning.

Truer words are hard to come by.

52 posted on 02/17/2010 9:12:03 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: presently no screen name
"Not at all! They don't think that far - they voted for a black man."

Because the media convinced them that if they didn't, they were racist bigots.....

53 posted on 02/17/2010 9:12:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: paudio
I’m not sold 100% to Sarah Palin, but the attacks of so-called conservative pundits, etc., are really sickening.

Yes, one doesn't have to be sold 100% on Sarah, to be nauseated by these impostor intellectual elitists.

54 posted on 02/17/2010 9:12:50 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: paudio

I’m not sold on Palin either (although I like her moxie)—but it makes me laugh when anyone declares with certainty who will and will not be president. No one knows what will or won’t happen next week, much less two years from now.


55 posted on 02/17/2010 9:17:21 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: ari-freedom
we don’t need a Republican version of Obama

You think Sarah is a lying, America hating, self-centered, freedom grabbing, abortion loving, Constitution shredding, commie?

Unbelievable.

Really.

56 posted on 02/17/2010 9:18:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The George Well, Peggy Nooner and David Jerks of the party are really painting themselves into a corner.

Go ahead you elitist pricks and just join the 0bama party already.


57 posted on 02/17/2010 9:20:31 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks ("YOU LIE! (09/09/09)" "NOT TRUE! (1/27/10)")
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To: editor-surveyor

Newt?


58 posted on 02/17/2010 9:26:01 PM PST by RogerQ
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To: RogerQ

Attempt at humor?

We don’t need a fool that sold his dignity on Nancy’s couch, promoting the climate scam. (good that he did that though!)


59 posted on 02/17/2010 9:31:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just emailed him.....

Mr. Will,

I’ve enjoyed reading your columns and articles for many years. However, in recent times you have begun to develop ”tone-deafness” to what Americans want. Your latest column is another example of that tone-deafness.

Americans are sick and tired of the political wrangling. So why do we continue to elect men and women we wouldn’t trust to baby-sit our dogs to go to Washington? By and large, the political process is so corrupt that only snakes are running for office. When you DO get a good candidate, the political machine in Washington descends en masse and buries them. And if they aren’t buried at home, they are corrupted by the cesspool that is Washington, DC.

Enter Sarah Palin. She’s an outsider, not part of the establishment. No, she doesn’t have the political handshake down to a “t” and she doesn’t make all the proper cocktail parties.

I am an electronic technician/computer programmer. I grew hunting and fishing in rural Alabama. I used to haul hay in the blistering summer heat. I’ve worked with my hands and worked with my head. So has Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin is one of US, not one of YOU. And what scares you to death is that she is generating a tremendous groundswell of support without your “help” and your “approval”.

You, the beltway crowd, are so far disconnected from the everyday working Americans that you do not even understand the phenomenon occurring right in front of your eyes.

No, Palin probably won’t run in 2012. If she does, she probably won’t win. She would have to fight as vicious assault from the GOP as she would from the Democrats. I’ve been following politics steadily since 1979 when I was in High School. What you, the media “elite” of BOTH parties are doing to Palin is repulsive.

You decry the lack of experience of Sarah Palin. Where were you when Barak Obama began running for president? He started his presidential campaign the minute he won his Senate bid. Mr. Obama is the most unprepared President in my lifetime, and that includes Jimmy Carter.

Why don’t you do yourself a favor – Take a few weeks and travel the back roads of America and visit the mechanics, the engineers, the farmers and the assembly line workers. Do it without cameras. Just talk to people.

You will be amazed, and humbled, at what you don’t know about America.

Bryan Alexander

Harvest, Alabama


60 posted on 02/17/2010 9:32:07 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: ellery
"I’m not sold on Palin either (although I like her moxie)—but it makes me laugh when anyone declares with certainty who will and will not be president. No one knows what will or won’t happen next week, much less two years from now."

Agreed on all of that. But my guess is that after our country is rebuilt from the fallen, global, effeminate, effete house of cards, the liberal, bipartisan special interests (plutocrats) will be out of useful currency and out of power. There will be a man for president--a man like Duncan Hunter.


61 posted on 02/17/2010 9:39:10 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: jimbo123

Why do modern journalists think it is so important to put the value of someone’s home in the story? I see it done more and more and it’s obnoxious.


62 posted on 02/17/2010 9:39:43 PM PST by Hildy
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To: skully

George Will and those like him are part of the reason why Washington does not work. Its time for him to go.


63 posted on 02/17/2010 9:41:25 PM PST by Destroyer Sailor
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To: Bryan24

bravo


64 posted on 02/17/2010 9:41:31 PM PST by Hildy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ya forgot yer barf alert.


65 posted on 02/17/2010 9:46:27 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: boop

The man comes from money. That is how he can afford a house like what he owns.


66 posted on 02/17/2010 9:46:37 PM PST by Destroyer Sailor
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah, some are easily led - so, it’s not that his voters thought he was qualified for the job, that didn’t even come on their radar screen - nor the propagandists’ talking heads.


67 posted on 02/17/2010 9:47:16 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah, some are easily led - so, it’s not that his voters thought he was qualified for the job, that didn’t even come on their radar screen - nor the propagandists’ talking heads.


68 posted on 02/17/2010 9:47:17 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: editor-surveyor

Were they this hard on Reagan? I mean, he was supposed to be a real dumbass, wasn’t he?


69 posted on 02/17/2010 9:51:05 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George...be my bitch.


70 posted on 02/17/2010 9:51:50 PM PST by wardaddy (I have been in a serious RHCPers mood lately......)
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To: familyop

or Jim DeMint! :)


71 posted on 02/17/2010 9:56:32 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: RogerQ

Newt?

You mean Mr.”Reagan Era is Over” “IloveDede” Gingrich?


72 posted on 02/17/2010 9:57:03 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: onyx
SHE ONLY HAS TO CONVINCE A MAJORITY OF VOTERS THAT SHE CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN OBAMA.

Not enough. Mickey Mouse can do that. Besides, she's not going to run. :)

73 posted on 02/17/2010 9:58:13 PM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: ellery
"or Jim DeMint! :)"

I've seen him mentioned a time or two. I'm going to look up the info about him now, before finishing a fastener schedule for a house here (digging through code and construction manual). Thanks for the tip!


74 posted on 02/17/2010 9:59:36 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Reagan Man

I DON’T THINK PALIN WILL RUN IN 2012, 2016 IS MOST LIKELY. BUT I HOPE SHE DOES JUMP IN

There lies the “torn between two alternatives” that reflect the Palin phenomenon. On one hand you have a faction that feels she needs more seasoning or throwing away her future if she does run in 2012 either because Obama is assured of being reelected or some ‘white knight’ will appear to carry the Republicans to a huge victory in 2012.

And if you think Obama is assured of reelection in 2012, then 2016 appears an opportune time for Palin to run.

But with if Obama is dethroned in 2012, then Palin would have to wait till 2020 to run. Now it is easy to say that in 2020 Palin will be more experienced and only 56, but what about her ‘rock star popularity’ 8 years from now. Simply, I don’t think Palin will be as “hot” physically or politically in 2020. Meanwhile 10 years is plenty of time for another rising ‘rock’ star to come along and supplant Palin as ‘the one’.

In addition Palin will never be as popular with the base and never be this young and energetic again. She is close to approaching 1.4m on her Facebook. Do you think these folks will stay with her if she stays on the sidelines in 2012?

And in 2012 it does not appear she will have to run against a person of immense stature.

All the variables are in place to fun in 2012. This is her time. I know it and I think Palin knows it. I do believe that Palin has a rendezvous with destiny.


75 posted on 02/17/2010 9:59:59 PM PST by techno
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To: EveningStar

Hate to tell you this, but Mickey Mouse is not a person.
You could be right that Sarah might not run.


76 posted on 02/17/2010 10:00:02 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Bryan24

Great letter! Did you send it yet?


77 posted on 02/17/2010 10:00:13 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Yes, right before I posted it on FR.


78 posted on 02/17/2010 10:01:37 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: familyop

I actually have some research to do on DeMint, too, before I support him wholeheartedly for 2012...but from what I’ve seen, he’s doing a great job leading the charge against leftists in both parties.

Good luck with the code/manual!


79 posted on 02/17/2010 10:02:18 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man I hate these twits. These guys hate conservative women.


80 posted on 02/17/2010 10:02:36 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: techno
This is her time.

And this is our country's time. We WILL NOT survive until 2016 much less 2020! It's already a mess and we have three more years to go!
81 posted on 02/17/2010 10:04:02 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can belittle the polls, or believe them. Frankly I believe them. Palin is very disliked. Wrongly for sure, but that is how it is.

She may squeek out a win against hussein in 2012, but it seems VERY doubtful.


82 posted on 02/17/2010 10:04:51 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She is not going to be president
*********
God decides these matters.

We’ll see Mr. Will.


83 posted on 02/17/2010 10:05:55 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: FreeReign; ari-freedom

WHACK!


84 posted on 02/17/2010 10:06:33 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Tolsti2
Frankly I believe them. Palin is very disliked.

How can you honestly say that? YOU are reading the 'media' - the hate filled media! Seems like they got you w/their propaganda. They use it because it works and you are proof of that.
85 posted on 02/17/2010 10:08:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I’m in Texas, and I know the deal. She’s not that well liked, as this poll has shown. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is.


86 posted on 02/17/2010 10:09:26 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2
I’m in Texas, and I know the deal

Another elitist? Get lost, chump!
87 posted on 02/17/2010 10:10:25 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I wish it wasn’t true, but it is. What part of that don’t you get? McCain wasn’t well liked and he lost. Bob Dole too. Kerry wasn’t, and most of them had less negatives than Palin in polls.

It’s just HOW IT IS. I don’t like it, it SUCKS. But we need to find someone else, quick. If Palin is the 2012 primary, I’ll vote for her. If she’s the nom, I’ll vote for her. Read those last parts before you freak out.


88 posted on 02/17/2010 10:12:26 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: techno
If I may be permitted a somewhat tepid defense of Will..It's obvious from this piece that he drinks quite a bit. On occasion, when besotted he will sit down to his computer and pen a column..or attempt to. This is obviously one of those efforts..NOT a good idea, Georgie....

OTOH, if I had to contemplate the prospect of sitting down every Sunday with that collection of idiots on the panel of "This Week.." I'd probably imbibe to excess as well...

Seriously, re your comments on Palin..you've missed one key point..right now, today, she's odds on to win the GOP nomination IF SHE RUNS....yes,that IS correct. Polls have shown that among LIKELY GOP primary voters ( remember, that means the BASE) those..like you and I, who are hard-core CONSERVATIVE and thus most likely to actually get out and vote in the primaries...she's favored by about 40-45%.. And because GOP primaries give 100% of the delegates of the delegates to the actual winner ( unlike the stupid Dem system with its proportional allocation of delegates.."BTW...how's that workin' out for them lately???" so she's got a real jump start on the nomination...

89 posted on 02/17/2010 10:13:13 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: techno

She needs to run in 2012 or get out of the way. If Palin passes up the chance to make her voice heard on the campaign trail then she really is not using her talent to there fullest extent. Sarah needs to run in order to remain relevant, but she does not necessarily need to win in the primary. If she wins in the primary then she will have one chance to do it right. If Sarah does not run in 2012 I will never contribute to her PAC again and I will start looking for new faces.


90 posted on 02/17/2010 10:14:53 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Savage is the only one qualified to become the first female President)
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To: onyx

I know Mickey Mouse is not a person. But at this moment even he could be Obama. :)

Now, when 2012 rolls around, don’t be surprised if we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We’re not called the Stupid Party for nothing.


91 posted on 02/17/2010 10:16:14 PM PST by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: presently no screen name

From the PPP blog referring to a poll to be released on Thursday:

“I (Tom Jensen) was a little skeptical last week of the WAPO poll showing that 71 of Americans, including a majority of Republicans, didn’t think Sarah Palin was qualified to be President. So we asked it over the weekend and found that 59% of Americans-but only 30% of Republicans-don’t think Palin is qualified.”

“Here’s what’s interesting though—matched up against Barack Obama, Sarah Palin gets 22% from people who DON’T think she’s qualified to be President!”


92 posted on 02/17/2010 10:17:24 PM PST by techno
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have been sick of Georgie "ABC token conservative" Will for quite some time now. He truly is a beltway animal. He is so contaminated by that crowd, he slips between Conservative and liberal beltway elite seamlessly. He lost his connection with regular hardworking Americans years ago, maybe decades. SAD, I liked him as a young man.

Nam Vet

93 posted on 02/17/2010 10:18:18 PM PST by Nam Vet (Inuendo IS NOT an Italian suppository.)
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To: Tolsti2

Freak out? Because I don’t want to listen to your mimicking the media? I could flick on the boob tube and get the same crapola.

Conservatives aren’t defeatists but your surely are!


94 posted on 02/17/2010 10:20:54 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Nam Vet

George Will stuck up for the Super Collider, which would’ve given us incredible breakthroughs (like project constellation) that democrats love to throw away. I remember that fondly.

Lately he’s gotten a bit lame. I will same that his Palin stuff MAY be accurate. She just might not be ellectable.


95 posted on 02/17/2010 10:21:24 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: techno

This sounds a lot more realistic. I never understood why so many people were willing to take the Washington Post Poll at face value.


96 posted on 02/17/2010 10:21:35 PM PST by Sarah-bot (Savage is the only one qualified to become the first female President)
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To: ellery

He has a beautiful voting record—darned near every bit of it pro-American and pro-family. But the most pressing problem for the time being, IMO, is the bipartisan, erroneous and dangerous policy on foreign trade and its partner, regulatory policies against domestic competition for about 30 years now.

I’ll have to think on that. We’re about to lose it all due to the debt-for-import schemes, IMO, and really need to get back to some real work. Most of our American industrial ingenuity came from men working in manufacturing—men with whole families. And it wasn’t that kind of man who threw it away. It was the philandering drunks who came down from the offices to scream at them and throw things. ...and the union lawyers from the same social origins, of course.

It’s saddening to know that there may well be unprecedented suffering in our own country before long. We’ve let our economy and our defense go too much for the unhealthy, personal social preferences of a few constituents favored by both parties.


97 posted on 02/17/2010 10:22:08 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: EveningStar
Now, when 2012 rolls around, don’t be surprised if we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. We’re not called the Stupid Party for nothing.

Our very nation is at stake, we cannot afford to be stupid in 2012.

98 posted on 02/17/2010 10:23:03 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: presently no screen name

I was called a defeatist when it was clear hussein would win. I think it’s clear, sadly, that Sarah is not likely to win. Things can change of course, and it’s a long time away. But sometimes you gotta refocus and concentrate on a winning solution instead of a certain loss.


99 posted on 02/17/2010 10:23:18 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: techno
Sarah Palin gets 22% from people who DON’T think she’s qualified to be President!”

And those 22% aren't conservatives so what the h*ll do they know anyway. ;)

Thanks!
100 posted on 02/17/2010 10:23:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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