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Snuff Civilization ( moonbat alert )
Alternatives Magazine ^ | Derrick Jensen

Posted on 02/18/2010 6:46:27 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: ejonesie22

LOL!


51 posted on 02/18/2010 7:54:18 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Actually I would hope so, otherwise if he is straight he has a lot of other “issues”...
52 posted on 02/18/2010 7:55:57 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Any environmentalist who does not immediately commit suicide is a poseur...

I, for one, enjoy having a life expectancy longer than 25 years.

53 posted on 02/18/2010 7:56:19 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: ejonesie22

He ought to have his ass kicked just for wearing that sweater.


54 posted on 02/18/2010 7:58:12 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: achilles2000

Arawaks were peaceful. And they were a favorite food of the Carib Indians who were cannibals, and, in fact, the origin of that term.


55 posted on 02/18/2010 8:05:17 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I think his mommy is there to protect him...
56 posted on 02/18/2010 8:06:25 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: ejonesie22

In a fair contest
Between this guy and a bear,
I bet on the bear.

57 posted on 02/18/2010 8:13:19 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: Haiku Guy

I’d bet on the squirrel when it was his turn...


58 posted on 02/18/2010 8:15:57 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: brytlea

“It is, but I invite Derreck to go live somewhere without technology, medical advances, et al. I suspect within a month or two he would be back and then would shut his stupid mouth.”

Exactly. What the anti-civilization types dont realize is that with every tech development people decide if will make their lives better compared to what they currently have. The hunter gatherers chose agriculture when it became available, people who rode horses chose autos, those who lived in caves chose huts, hut dwellers chose houses, those who got their water from streams chose indoor plumbing, etc. Civilization didnt appear out of no-where, it developed from rational choices. Its also interesting that when some primative tribe is discovered, its members tend to leave in great numbers to go live in a town.


59 posted on 02/18/2010 8:17:22 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: achilles2000
***Arawaks peaceful? How about “peaceful cannibals”.**

Arawaks were about to die out. They were the major food source for the Canab(Carib)indians, from which we get the word “Cannibals”.

Colombus recorded how his men found a Canab camp with captive pregnant Arawak women in cages. The Canabs considered newborn Awarak babies a delicacy. Yummy!

60 posted on 02/18/2010 8:20:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Don't touch my ..Shoulder, Pork and Ham!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

That essay was what happens when your view of history is based on “Dances with Wolves”


61 posted on 02/18/2010 8:23:46 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Again it needs to be said.

If these raving loons want to start depopulating the planet to put it back into a more primitive state, fine. They MUST lead by example.

I’m waiting mr. jensen, but I’m not seeing YOUR obituary yet. Why is that?


62 posted on 02/18/2010 8:34:54 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

***Indians would live in ancient forests all along the Eastern seaboard, along with bison, marten, fisher. ****

Oh really? Check this out!

http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html


63 posted on 02/18/2010 8:36:14 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Don't touch my ..Shoulder, Pork and Ham!)
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To: Haiku Guy; ejonesie22
With that, whatever that is around his neck, he reminds me of a pre-op Rosie Greer before he had Ray Milland attached to his shoulder...


64 posted on 02/18/2010 8:40:12 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: GonzoGOP
Hippie boy would be for 100% organic farming. That would quite likely reduce our agricultural production by 65%. i.e, entire nations starve.

Margaret Sanger. would be proud.

65 posted on 02/18/2010 8:43:42 AM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: Hacklehead

Well said.


66 posted on 02/18/2010 8:54:31 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: ejonesie22

Come on! That’s Barry Manilow!!!


67 posted on 02/18/2010 9:39:46 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: IYAS9YAS
I had to remind this idiot that the "noble people" did the same thing, and that these same "noble people" managed to wipe out many a species of land animal in their quest to be "one with nature." Horses, and/or their close relatives, come to mind.

Not to mention the long horned Bison, several different types of antelope, Sabre toothed Tigers, Cave Bears and many other species that died out way before civilization came into being in North America.

68 posted on 02/18/2010 10:01:16 AM PST by calex59
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To: DNME
Lib peace-niks like this guy seem to think they’ll just prance through the forest and pluck low-hanging fruit all day. Do they really believe that?

Unfortunately, yes. Here's another thing they don't understand. If I am hungry, and I have a weapon, guess who eats, and guess who looks for another tree with low-hanging fruit, or bleeds out, his choice.

69 posted on 02/18/2010 10:26:51 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: calex59

Some of the MidWest Indians would drive a herd of buffaloes off a cliff and could only utilize a fraction of those killed for food and pelts. They loved war and it was not always over hunting grounds. Often it was for sport, to capture the enemies women so they would birth more babies for your tribe. Also the warriors could only get more prestige, honor and sex with more women by doing well in battle.

So wars and battles were concocted even when there was enough game and resources for a few tribes to peacefully co-exist.


70 posted on 02/18/2010 10:33:30 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Fascinating


71 posted on 02/18/2010 10:40:03 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
"Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short."

Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

72 posted on 02/18/2010 10:49:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Alas Babylon!

Scary...


73 posted on 02/18/2010 11:03:27 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: The Working Man

Oh yes...I forgot that part.


74 posted on 02/18/2010 12:49:08 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: GonzoGOP

The liberals solution is to exterminate the population so that low tech farming would be on a smaller scale. The party of death always has a solution.


75 posted on 02/18/2010 12:50:36 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Hacklehead

They don’t want to make your life better. They want to make THEIR lives better. They will live in a self-sufficient techno-tower while the the pariah working class forages for berries.


76 posted on 02/18/2010 12:53:49 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer
The liberals solution is to exterminate the population so that low tech farming would be on a smaller scale.

Wouldn't matter. Pre civilization societies are always one bad year away from famine. Only civilization can create sufficient food, and then store it up to sustain them through lean years. The transportation system that allows parts of the world having good harvests to transport food to parts suffering drought or famine depends on civilization. You are not going to airlift food supplies to the other side of the world with a donkey and cart.

For most of the history of mankind the gravest problem has been malnourishment and famine. Only in the 20th century have we had such a change that obesity now kills more people world wide than famine. While modern society has its flaws, starvation isn't one of them. Today starvation only happens in failed states. You know the ones where civilization breaks down and people go back to using low tech agriculture.
77 posted on 02/18/2010 12:58:03 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Unfortunately, yes. Here's another thing they don't understand. If I am hungry, and I have a weapon, guess who eats, and guess who looks for another tree with low-hanging fruit, or bleeds out, his choice.

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't.
78 posted on 02/18/2010 12:59:50 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: jdsteel
“Logic: People would be better off if we just got rid of people.”

True Logic: Nature would be better off if we just got rid of all mankind and everything they have ever accomplished was total gotten rid of so the whole world could live the way it really should!!! SARC///

79 posted on 02/18/2010 1:04:51 PM PST by handy old one (If you play in nature be prepared to be played with by nature!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Indians would live in ancient forests all along the Eastern seaboard

If there is no one to call 'em "Indians", are they still "Indians"?
80 posted on 02/18/2010 1:09:55 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo
If there is no one to call 'em "Indians", are they still "Indians"?

One interesting thing. What was it that the locals wanted most when the Europeans first showed up. Agricultural advancements, poetry, literature, any form of liberal arts education, or civil engineering? Nope they wanted guns, lots of guns. They liked metal axes too. And interestingly the locals in Africa were more than happy to sell their fellow Africans into slavery in exchange for, you guessed it, more guns. So they could kill each other much more efficiently. There were no noble savages. Just savages lacking a decent arms industry.
81 posted on 02/18/2010 1:15:42 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: ejonesie22

“I think his mommy is there to protect him...”

After he misses a few meals he will EAT his mommy.


82 posted on 02/18/2010 1:57:47 PM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: The Working Man

Zardoz?


83 posted on 02/18/2010 2:04:01 PM PST by DesertConservative
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To: DesertConservative; Soothsayer

I had totally forgotten that movie. Of course the Time Machine by H.G. Wells could fit that too.

And the References to Rainbow Six are good too.


84 posted on 02/18/2010 2:59:26 PM PST by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

85 posted on 02/18/2010 3:02:44 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (The liberals are asking us to give Obama more time. Is 25 to life enough?)
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To: The Working Man

Is it wrong of me, Working Man, to have rooted for the Morlocks? >_>


86 posted on 02/18/2010 3:16:16 PM PST by DesertConservative
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To: DesertConservative

You can root for whoever you want to. Have fun!


87 posted on 02/18/2010 3:25:41 PM PST by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: The Working Man

By golly, I am hootin’ for them Morlocks!


88 posted on 02/18/2010 3:41:38 PM PST by DesertConservative
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

He seems to place some value on people having enough to eat, but contradicts himself by wanting there to be less people around.

He’s apparently totally ignorant of the “paradise” that Stalin created by doing that not too long ago.

Of course, logical consistency and any grasp of common sense is completely devoid in such a person.


89 posted on 02/18/2010 3:52:49 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: GonzoGOP

I said it was their solution, didn’t say it was a good one.

Anyway yes you are right about that.


90 posted on 02/18/2010 5:20:56 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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