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USDA reaches new settlement with black farmers
breitbart ^ | 2/18/10 | BEN EVANS

Posted on 02/18/2010 11:48:46 AM PST by Nachum

Edited on 02/18/2010 11:50:21 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Obama administration has reached a deal with black farmers....


(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhousda; black; blackfarmers; farmers; settlement; usda

1 posted on 02/18/2010 11:48:47 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

another way to get reparations?...


2 posted on 02/18/2010 11:50:18 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: Nachum
Once again socialism is seen to be the driving wedge of racism.

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=15996

“While discrimination is present in societies of all kinds, discriminators must pay pecuniary costs for indulging their prejudices in a market setting. Even the prejudiced usually will trade with minorities; bigots attempt to oppress minorities by socializing the costs through government action, but bigots usually are less willing to bear these costs themselves.”

3 posted on 02/18/2010 11:51:52 AM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Nachum
alleged racial discrimination

I can allege a lot of things, does that mean I get pie too?
5 posted on 02/18/2010 11:52:57 AM PST by TSgt (I long for Norman Rockwell's America.)
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To: tatsinfla
Actually this one was legit. The USDA blatantly discriminated against black farmers for decades. They've won lawsuit after lawsuit but the Feds simply failed to pay up.

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6 posted on 02/18/2010 11:53:14 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Nachum

I’ve never eaten a “black” before, and I had no idea that they were farmed.


9 posted on 02/18/2010 11:54:41 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Nachum

It is long past time that we End Farm Subsidies.

However, if it was shown that the Feds treated farmers differently due to their race, these people deserve the money.

And then we should stop subsidies to all farmers.


10 posted on 02/18/2010 11:54:55 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: edcoil

the gubmint is their mealticket...and we pay and pay and pay....


11 posted on 02/18/2010 11:55:04 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: Nachum

New book title about Democtatic party policies ...

None Dare Call it racism ...


12 posted on 02/18/2010 11:56:25 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Nachum

Announced a 1.25 billion US$ special fund to compensate African-Americans who claim a denial of assistance from the USDA. Needs Congressional approval. Is a second round of payouts to cover damages awarded in a 1999 class-action lawsuit.

This round of pay outs is for those denied earlier payments, usually because of missed deadlines.


13 posted on 02/18/2010 11:56:43 AM PST by bvw
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To: Nachum

Reparations!


14 posted on 02/18/2010 11:57:35 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Old Texan

“I’m sure we just paid for a lot of more moochers to sit around and do nothing.
I bet the stocks of Kool cigarettes and Cadillac just went up. Oh and Gold teeth...
More money threw out the window. More vote buying.”

I really do not know too many farmers that drive Cadillacs and have gold teeth. However, we do not to end all farm subsidies.


15 posted on 02/18/2010 11:58:43 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Lurker

I would be interested to see evidence of this.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 11:58:45 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: Nachum

“Black” Farmers??? I thought Men were Men and worked whatever they work.

‘Post-racial’ America? Really now? It appears that this is only a new BEGINNING of ‘racial’ America.


17 posted on 02/18/2010 11:59:43 AM PST by J40000
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Scroll up the thread. The last Class Action was ‘settled’ in 1999.


18 posted on 02/18/2010 12:00:19 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: edcoil
"The new money is intended for people who were denied earlier payments, often over missed deadlines."

They missed deadlines and are whining that the government did not act because of this?

19 posted on 02/18/2010 12:00:23 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Nachum

What makes one a “black” farmer? The shade of ones skin? How about a person who has white skin but in the background there is a black relative...then what?

I call that discrimination.

Do these white folks with a black relative in their background have to dress like Al Jolson and sing “Mammy” to be noticed?


20 posted on 02/18/2010 12:01:28 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Nachum

I bet they REEEELY had to twist Hussein’s arm to get him to give taxpayer dollars to the brothers!


21 posted on 02/18/2010 12:01:44 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: J40000

Does the food that ‘black’ farmers grow feed only black people or does it go on the public market for all races?


22 posted on 02/18/2010 12:01:54 PM PST by J40000
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To: Lurker
Actually this one was legit. The USDA blatantly discriminated against black farmers for decades. They've won lawsuit after lawsuit but the Feds simply failed to pay up.

Please do not attempt the introduce actual facts into a thread that would otherwise be fertile ground for comments tinged with racial overtones.

23 posted on 02/18/2010 12:03:36 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: MikeWUSAF
In this case the “alleged” actions of the USDA led to a real harm done to people based upon socialism=racism.

Before the USDA stacked the deck in favor of white farmers in the form of socialist benefits subsidizing the white farmer's cost, thus driving black farmers out of business; blacks were represented among the farming community roughly along their proportion of the population.

After the actions of the racist socialist USDA, black farmers are as rare as an intelligent liberal.

Socialism subsidizes racism.

24 posted on 02/18/2010 12:03:43 PM PST by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: trumandogz

However, we do need to end all farm subsidies.


25 posted on 02/18/2010 12:06:17 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Nachum

Of all the black grievance groups I’d ever heard of in America, farmers must be near the bottom of the list. Not even Jesse Jackson, Jr. or Al Sharpton bothers. This sounds so Zimbabwe.


26 posted on 02/18/2010 12:08:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Lurker

I read what you say, but why and when would these offenses have happened. Is this stuff harking back to Jim Crow and Democrats? I hear Indians got an even bigger screw.


27 posted on 02/18/2010 12:11:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Oldpuppymax

“I bet they REEEELY had to twist Hussein’s arm to get him to give taxpayer dollars to the brothers!”

Actually, the Feds settled this case around ten years ago after it was shown that the government favored equally qualified white farmers in their lending practices.

So yes, now we must pay-up, or perhaps you advocate a system where white farmers are given preferential treatment than black farmers.


28 posted on 02/18/2010 12:14:33 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Is this stuff harking back to Jim Crow and Democrats?

It was a pattern of behavior through the 50's, 60's, and 70's.

I hear Indians got an even bigger screw.

They did. It was one of the 'minor' Clinton scandals. Minor meaning compared to Impeachment. But the Secretary of the Interior was threatened with jail for Contempt of Court over billions of missing dollars in money owed to various Indian tribes.

29 posted on 02/18/2010 12:14:52 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: trumandogz

My brother is a corn/soybean farmer in Nebraska. The only “subsidies” he receives are loans backed by the U.S. When the ethanol debacle arose, corn went from approx. $4 a bushel to $7 a bushel. It is now about $3.80 a bushel. However, seed prices went up drastically, fertilizer went up drastically, fuel went up, etc. When corn prices dropped by half since the artificial inflation to $7, everything else didn’t cut in half.


30 posted on 02/18/2010 12:18:27 PM PST by stuckinloozeeana
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To: stuckinloozeeana
My brother is a corn/soybean farmer in Nebraska. The only “subsidies” he receives are loans backed by the U.S. When the ethanol debacle arose, corn went from approx. $4 a bushel to $7 a bushel. It is now about $3.80 a bushel. However, seed prices went up drastically, fertilizer went up drastically, fuel went up, etc. When corn prices dropped by half since the artificial inflation to $7, everything else didn’t cut in half.

Three are many of us that work in industries that are impacted by fluctuations of the price of a certain commodity and most of us don't get bailed-out by the Tax Payer when we or our industry makes the wrong decision.

So yes, it is time we End All Farm Subsidies!

31 posted on 02/18/2010 12:24:26 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz; Lurker

This new settlement is pigford #2. More money to be paid out

Money was already paid out under pigford #1

There is a lot of scamming going on along with some honest claims http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pigford+scam&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGLL_enUS358US358&ie=UTF-8

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http://www.blackfarmersjustice.com/faq.htm

Frequently Asked Questions

Q. What is the Pigford case?

A. The Pigford Case, or more accurately Pigford v Veneman, was a class action lawsuit brought by Timothy Pigford, a black farmer in Eastern North Carolina. The suit alleged discrimination against black farmers. The suit ended when the United States Agriculture Department entered into a Consent Decree in which they agreed to compensate black farmers who were victims of discrimination between January 1, 1981 and December 31, 1999.

The suit was the largest Civil Rights settlement in history with nearly $1 billion being paid to over 16,000 victims.

Unfortunately, about 70,000 black farmers were denied a review of their claim based on the merits because they did not submit a complete claim package by the filing deadline.

Q. What is happening now?


32 posted on 02/18/2010 12:27:36 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: tatsinfla
'another way to get reparations?...'

Forty acres and a mule?

33 posted on 02/18/2010 12:33:40 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012...)
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To: trumandogz
"I really do not know too many farmers that drive Cadillacs and have gold teeth."

Do you know any black farmers?

;-/

34 posted on 02/18/2010 12:38:04 PM PST by Gargantua (DON'T TREAD ON US.)
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To: Nachum

This makes at least the 3rd time the government has given a massive payout to black farmers. A friend of mine got all his government loans forgiven and a $50,000 payoff the first time, and I don’t know what he got the second time.


35 posted on 02/18/2010 12:40:25 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Gargantua

Yes.


36 posted on 02/18/2010 12:41:07 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Old Texan

Your racism does no credit to FR.


37 posted on 02/18/2010 12:41:59 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Nachum

How much to the lawyers get?


38 posted on 02/18/2010 12:48:48 PM PST by poobear
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To: Nachum

There goes the price of mules...


39 posted on 02/18/2010 12:54:56 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: J40000

I’m careful to always shop at the white-farmer-only produce market.


40 posted on 02/18/2010 12:56:51 PM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: tatsinfla

Another word for Reparations?

Stimulus.


41 posted on 02/18/2010 5:20:38 PM PST by Freddd
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