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Internet note posted by man linked to plane crash
Austin American Statemen ^ | Feb. 18, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 02/18/2010 12:07:59 PM PST by FTJM

Editor’s note: We found this note on a Web site being pointed at by social media users. A search showed the domain that the note was posted on is registered to Joe Stack of San Marcos. A man by the same name, who has addresses in both Austin and San Marcos has been linked to today’s airplane crash.

If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing (except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their “freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of “paying my dues”), I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer… and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

· “another person” is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.

· “taxpayer” is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.

· “individual”, “employee”, or “worker” is you.

Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, ‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a fuck about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to XXXX XXXX, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, XXXX knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crash; joestack; josephstack; plane; rant; suicide
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1 posted on 02/18/2010 12:07:59 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

His site has already been taken down at the request (or order?) of the FBI:

http://embeddedart.com

This website has been taken offline due to the sensitive nature of the events that transpired in Texas this morning and in compliance with a request from the FBI.

Regards,
T35 Hosting


2 posted on 02/18/2010 12:11:25 PM PST by Deo volente (January 19, 2010...the Second American Revolution begins, right where it all started!)
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To: FTJM

And this commie scumbag gets his spew posted to FREE REPUBLIC!?!?

Why?


3 posted on 02/18/2010 12:12:26 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: FTJM

Citizens are going to war against the government.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 12:12:45 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: FTJM
Editor’s note: We found this note on a Web site being pointed at by social media users.

So the editors at Austin American Statesman "FOUND" this note on his website. Wow! They are really quick. FoxNews.com has had it up for a while now. And it has been posted several times here on FR. The editors should have worded this "Editor's Note" in such a way as to not imply that their crack investigative skills uncovered the nutbag's opus since they are so late coming to the party.

5 posted on 02/18/2010 12:13:28 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: TruthHound
Why?

Because FReeRepublic was FIRST to discover it, before this paper and the news media learned of it, that's why. And this is not the first thread on this. We even reported it to Drudge, FOX and elsewhere. It was after we reported it that they began covering it.

6 posted on 02/18/2010 12:14:51 PM PST by bcsco (Obama is the navel of his own universe.)
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To: Deo volente

and a WHOIS search says it was registered to Joe Stack of San Marcos, TX. The registration is due to expire in June. Stack expired today


7 posted on 02/18/2010 12:14:51 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: ClearCase_guy
“Citizens are going to war against the government.”

No. It's just some unfortunate guy who didn't get control of his circumstance and ultimately cracked. It happens.

8 posted on 02/18/2010 12:15:11 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: TruthHound

Because we want to know the truth.


9 posted on 02/18/2010 12:15:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: tired_old_conservative

Wait and see. This guy won’t be the last. Some will be crazy. Others won’t be so crazy — though the media will call them crazy too.


10 posted on 02/18/2010 12:16:57 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: FTJM

This sounds like the rantings of the loonatic Mike Malloy from Leftist talk radio show. He over the last few nights has been saying violence is the only solution. Hard to believe this guy is alloud to be on the air.


11 posted on 02/18/2010 12:17:32 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: cripplecreek
Because we want to know the truth.

Before the FBI chucks it down the memory hole.
12 posted on 02/18/2010 12:18:37 PM PST by Deo volente (January 19, 2010...the Second American Revolution begins, right where it all started!)
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To: TruthHound
And this commie scumbag gets his spew posted to FREE REPUBLIC!?!?

Why?

So that when the drive-by media tries to spin selected quotes from the screed as a "tax-protestor" (like those Tea Party extremists), we already have the truth that this guy is no right-winger, but rather a wealth-envying class warrior tax-dodge scammer (probably jealous that TurboTax Timmy could get away with it but he couldn't), anti-religion, anti-Bush, anti-capitalist nutbag who was probably a hope and change voter. Notice in his screed that he bemoans the fact that congress could bail out the bankers and the automakers, but couldn't find a way to pass universal healthcare. His SPEW NEEDS TO BE POSTED so that people can see he was no right-winger. Don't let the media spin this guy as a Tea Party activists. You KNOW they will try.

13 posted on 02/18/2010 12:19:24 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: TruthHound

“And this commie scumbag gets his spew posted to FREE REPUBLIC!?!? Why?”

Probbaly to counter the missinformation. Look at the first few hundred post on the original breaking news. It was greared he was going to be a Tea Party person and that the media was going to use that against conservatives everywhere.


14 posted on 02/18/2010 12:21:23 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Deo volente
Before the FBI chucks it down the memory hole.

They already have...http://embeddedart.com/.

15 posted on 02/18/2010 12:22:04 PM PST by bcsco (Obama is the navel of his own universe.)
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To: VRWCmember
anti-capitalist nutbag who was probably a hope and change voter.

He was mad cause Obambi's hopey & changey didn't work for him! Boo hoo!

16 posted on 02/18/2010 12:24:11 PM PST by blondee123 (Illinois ELECT Adam Kinzinger - http://www.electadam.com/)
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To: FTJM

What an idiot - he has savings to fall back on each time he has a job loss yet wants to blame everyone else for any problem in his life. He could have murdered no telling how many people all because he won’t take any responsibility for his own life. Oh and blame the accountant too - even though this guy looked over the 1040 and signed it...yeah it is always someone else’s fault


17 posted on 02/18/2010 12:24:34 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I support Coach Mike Leach and think Gerald Meyers should be run out of Lubbock!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

He pulled out his IRA one year and decided not to file tax return, then seems to think he was justified. ??


18 posted on 02/18/2010 12:25:36 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: FTJM

This guy may have been mentally unstable, morally autistic, and an anti-catholic, but there is plenty in here that resonates for a lot of Americans.

The point is not to applaud him, but to understand him. He’s not the first:
http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle1998/libe39-19980626-09.html


19 posted on 02/18/2010 12:25:59 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Personal freedom begins when you tell Old Mrs. Grundy to go to Hell." -Lazarus Long)
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To: VRWCmember

This pondscum deserves not a kilobyte of bandwidth or drop of ink. And the next set of libtards who want to IED innocents will also have rants that sound like an Ølberman script. Will we post theirs, too?

They’ll be advertising t-shirts with this loser’s mug on it like Ché on Huffington Post by Monday.


20 posted on 02/18/2010 12:26:31 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

You think it would be better that the truth be buried, and the drive-by media could just fill in the blanks by just describing the nutbag as a “tax protestor”?


21 posted on 02/18/2010 12:34:20 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Well said. We can see it coming.


22 posted on 02/18/2010 12:35:27 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Later.


23 posted on 02/18/2010 12:38:22 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
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To: TruthHound

For the simple reason, we prefer to read it from the source...NOT filtered thru the MSM.


24 posted on 02/18/2010 12:38:39 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Deo volente

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html


25 posted on 02/18/2010 12:39:43 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: TruthHound

Here’s the height of the looney left. This guy, who obviously has deep seated problems, hates Bush. It’s right there in his death letter. Yet, we’ll probably find the left spinning this to make him a crazed right-winger.


26 posted on 02/18/2010 12:41:12 PM PST by mentor2k
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To: VRWCmember

And if the LMSM want to lie about his leftist leanings, just how is posting his entire manifesto here going to stop that?


27 posted on 02/18/2010 12:43:27 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: bcsco

When reading Stack’s manifesto/homocide note (see my #25) the “white elephant” phrase struck me. I knew I had read it on a thread much earlier, but can’t seem to find it. Do you have a link for that thread?


28 posted on 02/18/2010 12:44:25 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Lets looks at a few things;

Joes Whois shows he registered the domain in June2003. He used a “disintegrating” email address from a company in Turkey.

This company was registered in November of 2003, the one in turkey.

The name server for this Turkish registrant is listed in Atlanta , GA. It is first registered Jan2004.

Do your own looking on tucows.....dodaddy has already been censored.

29 posted on 02/18/2010 12:46:19 PM PST by Infinity101
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To: TruthHound

Maybe you didn’t hear when Rick Sanchez and others from different cable news networks(MSM)all had read it in their way.
I have my own copy, and if in fact it is Stack’s last diatribe then, I will have/make my own opinion.
Thank you, and have a good day.


30 posted on 02/18/2010 12:47:31 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: TruthHound

We have the truth available to counter the lies.


31 posted on 02/18/2010 12:48:50 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Roccus
Here's the link to the actual 3 consecutive posts where the URL for the suicide note was posted. The first being post #593. The page with the suicide note on it has since been taken down.

However, if you visit the link provided on this thread to the Austin American Statesman, you'll see their article was posted on the web at 12:16PM. By visiting the link I provide below, you'll see our discovery of the suicide note precedes this time by some minutes. FReeRepublic was the first to acknowledge its existence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2454156/posts?page=593#593

32 posted on 02/18/2010 12:50:21 PM PST by bcsco (Obama is the navel of his own universe.)
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To: TruthHound

About 50 times, so far.....


33 posted on 02/18/2010 12:50:28 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Political Correctness Will Get Us All Killed)
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To: FTJM
I think this comes under the category of nothing is more dangerous than someone who has (or thinks they have) nothing more to lose.

As more and more people start to lose everything they have worked for and see a government that continues to throw money away that generations cannot possibly pay back we are likely going to see more of this nut job behavior.

34 posted on 02/18/2010 12:50:53 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: bcsco

Thanks. I had read the thread when it only had a few replies on it. You can find the entire suicide/homocide note at the link in #25 above.


35 posted on 02/18/2010 12:52:28 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: FTJM

Like a true Obama supporter, Stack ignores his existence while railing against GWB and the government in general. What does it say that he had absolutley NOTHING bad to lay at the feet of Obama?


36 posted on 02/18/2010 12:52:50 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: bcsco

Ooops, that’s not the one I was looking for. I’ll keep searching.


37 posted on 02/18/2010 12:53:34 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Roccus

Actually, the first posting about the suicide note came at post #570. I missed it because it wasn’t an actual link, just typed text.


38 posted on 02/18/2010 12:56:08 PM PST by bcsco (Obama is the navel of his own universe.)
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To: Beelzebubba
"The point is not to applaud him, but to understand him."

Tell me how I'm supposed to "understand" someone who tries to take innocent lives? Even though no one was killed besides him, the truth is that someone could have been. Someone might not be welcoming home their mom or dad tonight. Seeing their sister or brother, son or daughter again. Tell me how we're supposed to not applaud him, but "understand" that line of thinking?
39 posted on 02/18/2010 12:59:51 PM PST by mentor2k
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To: Greenpees

I do not want to make political hay with this guy’s beliefs. However, you can bet the media will ignore the anti-capitalist, anti-Bush, anti-religious ranting, and label him an “anti-tax protester just like those crazy teabaggers.”

We need to stand ready to shift the narrative when this pops up. We must not let this obvious left-wing loon be hung like an albatross on the neck of the Right.


40 posted on 02/18/2010 1:01:17 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: bcsco

There was a thread (I believe BEFORE the crash) that questioned if a statement was true. The statement contained the phrase “white elephant” and had to do with income tax forms and one’s signature on the bottom. I just gave it a cursory glance and moved on. Now I can’t find it....Grrrrrrrr


41 posted on 02/18/2010 1:02:37 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Greenpees
The left will find a way to say this was the people shouting out that change is not coming fast enough.
42 posted on 02/18/2010 1:02:48 PM PST by mentor2k
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To: Beelzebubba

Understand him? You got to be freaken kidding. Timothy Mcveigh had issues with an overbearing government as well which is why he chose the target he did. You want us to understand him too?


43 posted on 02/18/2010 1:07:27 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Deo volente

Link is redirected now.


44 posted on 02/18/2010 1:20:25 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ClearCase_guy
Citizens are going to war against the government.

I don't think that's the case here. I think this guy is more like the background characters in Atlas Shrugged - the ones who just give up in desperation and go to war with everyone out of that desperation...

45 posted on 02/18/2010 1:20:53 PM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: TruthHound
And this commie scumbag gets his spew posted to FREE REPUBLIC!?!? Why?

What is your problem? We are not supporting him by posting what he wrote. Are you insane? We post things said by all kinds of liberals, kooks, and wackos (sorry to be redundant) who don't know what they are talking about. Are you suggesting that we not post anything from anyone we don't completely agree with? This guy tried to kill people by flying his plane into an office building. SOME of us are curious as to WHY he did this, and we'd prefer to hear it straight from the horse's mouth than have it filtered by the press. Again, I ask...what is your problem?
46 posted on 02/18/2010 1:26:35 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: TruthHound
commie

Commie?

47 posted on 02/18/2010 1:29:00 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: tired_old_conservative

“No. It’s just some unfortunate guy...”

Agreed, citizens are not going to war against the government, but I disagree that this dope was “some unfortunate guy...”

He was a selfish, murderous coward, and nothing more.


48 posted on 02/18/2010 1:31:30 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: GLDNGUN

It fulfills his agenda. And there are hundreds just like him. They don’t care about their own lives—much less yours. They just want their rants heard. Don’t give them the satisfaction or more will die for some twisted loser to get his 15 minutes of fame.


49 posted on 02/18/2010 1:33:57 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: ColdWater

Yes, Bush-hating, spread-the-wealth-loving, “free”-healthcare-demanding, tax-cheating COMMIE!


50 posted on 02/18/2010 1:36:54 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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