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Akula nuke submarine to be delivered to India by May
Times Now ^ | 2/18/2010 | Times Now

Posted on 02/18/2010 7:14:36 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Indian Navy will regain its underwater warfare nuclear capability in the next 60-days with the Russians assuring that the Akula-II class attack submarine the Nerpa would be delivered by mid-May. The assurance that the nuclear submarine would be delivered "strictly on schedule" was given by top Russian shipbuilding officials to the Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who is to visit New Delhi on a state visit next month. Nerpa has been handed over to the Russian Navy for its sea trials.

"The 518th project, the Nerpa submarine is currently completing trials in the Pacific basin. We believe that we will be able to deliver it on time, according to agreed schedule," Chief of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Roman Trotsenko told Putin at today's meeting. The Nerpa would be provided to the Indian Navy on 10 year lease and is scheduled to touch the Indian coast some time in May under its rechristened name of INS Chakra.

The Akula-II class Nerpa submarine is one of the Russia's most modern, largest and quietest submarines armed with sophisticated missiles. The deep sea warfare vessel was hit by an accident in November 2008 while on trial in the Sea of Japan due to release of toxic Freon from its fire-suppression system. In May 2009 Putin had personally flown to Komsomolsk-on-Amur in the Russian Far East to inspect the defence shipyard and had ordered to complete the project by December

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: akula; akulaii; attacksubmarine; indiannavy; nerpa; submarine

1 posted on 02/18/2010 7:14:37 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

In b4 the gratuitous, largely uninformed wisecracks about the poor quality of Russian engineering!


2 posted on 02/18/2010 7:15:38 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: sonofstrangelove

Isn’t Aluka Nuke a brand of ukelele made in Hawaii?


3 posted on 02/18/2010 7:16:51 PM PST by righttackle44
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To: sonofstrangelove

Incidentally, I’m pretty sure that it’s generally considering a bad thing for a submarine to “touch the coast,” Indian or otherwise.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 7:16:59 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: righttackle44

I thought it was a drink


5 posted on 02/18/2010 7:18:00 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Dan Middleton
"In b4 the gratuitous, largely uninformed wisecracks about the poor quality of Russian engineering!"

Why is it a good thing to be in before that occurs ?

6 posted on 02/18/2010 7:18:33 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Dan Middleton
The K-152 Nerpa (Russian: К-152 «Нерпа») is a 8,140-tonne (8,010-long-ton) Project 971 Shchuka-B (NATO: Akula II) type nuclear-powered attack submarine. Construction was started in 1993, but suspended due to lack of funding. K-152 Nerpa was launched in October 2008 and entered service with the Russian Navy in late 2009. The submarine will eventually be leased to the Indian Navy in 2010 as recommissioned INS Chakra.

While K-152 Nerpa was undergoing sea trials in the Sea of Japan on 8 November 2008, an accident caused the deaths of some twenty sailors and injury to twenty-one others. A fire suppression system discharged gas in the bow of the sub, suffocating civilian specialists and navy crew members.

Great engineering at work!
7 posted on 02/18/2010 7:19:23 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: righttackle44

I thought it was some kind of bud the Dog the Bounty Hunter smokes


8 posted on 02/18/2010 7:19:37 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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In 2008 there was an accident of a Nerpa class submarine that killed 20 people


9 posted on 02/18/2010 7:20:16 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Dan Middleton

“In Its First Trials the Submarine Nerpa Leaked at the Seams”. Komsomolskaya Pravda. 9 November 2008.

Great engineers.


10 posted on 02/18/2010 7:20:37 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: al baby

Given that it usually only takes about 30 seconds, preemption requires highly fortuitous timing.


11 posted on 02/18/2010 7:20:43 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Dan Middleton

Alexander Golts: This submarine was under construction for about 15 years. I was told at the Amur shipyard that they started to build it either in 1991 or 1993. The shipyard’s director was on the verge of tears as he told me that they had installed the nuclear reactor on the Nerpa but that he didn’t have the money to power up the reactor plant to anything over standard operating temperature. The boatyard had no finances to take the new submarine to the Russian Navy’s nuclear reactor facility at Bolshoi Kamen to test the full capacity of the reactor.

I am sure that most of the people who worked on building this submarine for 15 years were lacking experience, or had simply lost their skills. In the 1980s, this shipyard turned out submarines one after the other, like pancakes. But over the last 15 years they made just one—the Nerpa. The old specialists had left, the new ones lacked professionalism. I wonder if the crowd of engineers on board at the time of the accident were given oxygen masks at all.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/168382


12 posted on 02/18/2010 7:21:46 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: narses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Dechaineux_%28SSG_76%29

“On 12 February 2003, Dechaineux was operating near her maximum safe diving depth off the coast of Western Australia when a seawater hose burst.[17] The high-pressure seawater flooded the lower engine room before the hose was sealed off: it was estimated that if the inflow had continued for another twenty seconds, the weight of the water would have prevented Dechaineux from returning to the surface.[17] The RAN recalled the Collins class submarines to base after the incident, and after engineers were unable to determine the flaw in the pipes that caused the incident, instructed that the maximum safe depth of the class be reduced.[17]”

Incompetent Australian engineers, LMAO, amirite?

People post the same type of derisive comments every time there’s a thread that mentions Russian military hardware, its actual capabilities and record notwithstanding.


13 posted on 02/18/2010 7:24:01 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Dan Middleton; narses
Or perhaps you'd like to defame the Swedes' engineering skills for the ongoing gremlins afflicting Dechaineux and her hapless sisters?
14 posted on 02/18/2010 7:28:32 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Dan Middleton

How many years was the Dechaineux in shipyard waiting to be completed? Since the Nerpa spent FIFTEEN years in construction, due to poverty on the part of Russia, it suffered. More than HALF of the original Akula class are no longer in service.

You may be impressed by Russian garbage, I am not.


15 posted on 02/18/2010 7:31:07 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: Dan Middleton

Why? Unlike the Akula class garbage, all of RAN Collins class are still in service, sortie regularly and are expected to serve for years to come.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 7:34:25 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: sonofstrangelove

I’m just surprised the Russians are exporting the Akula-II. Isn’t that a front-line SSN? They must really be hurting for cash.


17 posted on 02/18/2010 7:35:04 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Dan Middleton
At least this submarine is in better shape than the old, obsolete Charlie II-class sub that India leased from Russia back in the 1990's.
18 posted on 02/18/2010 7:38:47 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: narses

Each crew member will be issued a lead jock strap for the shakedown cruise...


19 posted on 02/18/2010 7:45:37 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

No kidding.


20 posted on 02/18/2010 7:46:00 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: narses
Dumb statement. Engineers design, drunken workers install, get it?

And US subs have had to have rework done before ever being launched as well........but of course that was not lousy engineers, was it?

21 posted on 02/18/2010 7:58:01 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Dan Middleton

I wonder what the Swedes’ are paying sailors to man that ship.
Only the brave and the stupid.

I guess if they guaranteed that my family would be set for life maybe i’d do a 6 month tour.


22 posted on 02/18/2010 7:59:35 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Dan Middleton

Whoops, Meant the Ausies.

Got a little confused there...


23 posted on 02/18/2010 8:01:44 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Dan Middleton

Aussie

Time for bed.


24 posted on 02/18/2010 8:03:08 PM PST by mowowie
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To: doorgunner69

Sure, but the engineering is the totality of the work. You may embrace Russian garbage, not me.


25 posted on 02/18/2010 8:14:18 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: sonofstrangelove

I wonder if we’ll be selling more P-3s to Pakistan?


26 posted on 02/18/2010 8:20:07 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: narses
all of RAN Collins class are still in service, sortie regularly and are expected to serve for years to come.

This is factually untrue, actually, though part of the problem is that the RAN has a manpower shortage.

27 posted on 02/18/2010 8:41:32 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: narses

You can assume all Russian hardware is garbage, I do not.


28 posted on 02/18/2010 8:42:22 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: Dan Middleton

You have trouble with english, eh comrade? Where did I say “ all Russian hardware is garbage”?

OTOH, the Akula Class is plagued with garbage.


29 posted on 02/18/2010 8:48:33 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: narses

Nice sidestep on US subs having similar episodes.........dismissed.........


30 posted on 02/18/2010 9:51:47 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

What US sub took 15 years to get out of the shipyard dock? What modern US sub had more than HALF of it’s initial run out of service in the first two decades?


31 posted on 02/18/2010 9:59:18 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: sonofstrangelove

>In 2008 there was an accident of a Nerpa class submarine that killed 20 people

In the case of incident described above it’s was sailor’s fatal error (the human factor), not technology failure


32 posted on 02/19/2010 12:09:59 AM PST by Primorsky
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To: Primorsky

Of course wrapping around the Russian flag as usual.


33 posted on 02/19/2010 12:11:07 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: narses
As for "Russian garbage", there lot of submarine death incidents in US navy and other Western navies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_incidents_since_2000

Also US navy has record of two lost submarines(all crew died) - THRESHER and SCORPION in 1960s. Does it proves that American submarine technology is unreliable garbage?
Don't forget, nuclear submarines are the most sophisticated man-made machines.
34 posted on 02/19/2010 12:35:24 AM PST by Primorsky
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To: narses; Dan Middleton

The problem was not with the Akulas, but the rather the fact that the Russian government had no money to spend on any equipment. Most Russian ships, aircraft and tanks took years to build back in the 1990s. While it took almost 10 years for the Russian navy to get a Neutrashimmy class frigate and a handful of SU-27s and 32, the Chinese and Indian navies got Russian industries to deliver their ships in about 3-4 years in addition to hundreds of SU-27/30s.


35 posted on 02/19/2010 2:11:38 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: narses; Dan Middleton

Some Australian newspapers say that only two out of the six Collins class boats are available for service.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/lessons-from-the-collins-class/story-e6frg71x-1225823755902
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2802445.htm


36 posted on 02/19/2010 2:14:13 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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