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Is the Tea Party-connected Group the Oath Keepers an "extremist Right" Group as the Left Alleges?
Associated Content (AC) ^ | February 19, 2010 | Marc Schenker

Posted on 02/19/2010 1:53:24 AM PST by Suvroc10

Is the Tea Party-connected group, the Oath Keepers, an "extremist right" group as the partisan bomb-throwers on the left have been fond of alleging? That's the proverbial question of the day as Oath Keepers founder, Stewart Rhodes, made an appearance on the self-proclaimed "humble correspondent's," Bill O'Reilly's, No-Spin Zone. His appearance was the direct result of O'Reilly opening up this question of so-called "radicalism" among Tea Party supporters by hosting committed left-winger, Mark Potok (handsome devil, if you call overly gelled, curly hair and overly big eyeglasses "handsome"), of the Southern Poverty Law Center on his show a day before. The whole crux of the matter is basically that leftists like the Southern Poverty Law Center insist on raising the alarm about allegedly "dangerous" groups like the Oath Keepers because they apparently operate on "crazy theories"—like, oh my God, respecting the Constitution!! But are they really "extremists?"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; billorino; cwiiping; iii; josephstack; oathkeepers; orino; stewartrhodes
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1 posted on 02/19/2010 1:53:25 AM PST by Suvroc10
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To: Suvroc10

BOR the bloviator strikes again!! I’m really wondering about him. Who’s side is Bill on??


2 posted on 02/19/2010 2:03:29 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: timetostand

Bill’s side. Period.


3 posted on 02/19/2010 2:05:25 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Suvroc10

How can all of the Libertarians and moderates in the Tea Party movement really be from the far right?


4 posted on 02/19/2010 2:11:28 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Suvroc10

Please remember that the Left says that Focus ont he Family is an extremist group along with any concerned parent that is “overly interested” in their childrens education.

The left wants blind and mute adherrants. They do not want you questioning it. To do so makes you a racist, bigoted homophobe, lying, extremist.


5 posted on 02/19/2010 2:12:19 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Suvroc10

So what if they are connected? IMO, Oath Keepers is an honorable organization that people should respect. I appreciate BOR giving them a few minutes on his show to balance the attacks made @ them by the SPLC activist the night before.


6 posted on 02/19/2010 2:12:50 AM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: Suvroc10; P-Marlowe; Lancey Howard

I looked it up on the web today. Didn’t see anything extremist at all. The worst that can be said is that they have beliefs that indicate distrust of our government. There’s no advocacy of violence, not even any applauding of violence that I saw.

Essentially, they appear to be on record saying that if they are ever given illegal orders that they will not obey such orders.

Are US soldiers believers that the senior military leadership will inevitably issue illegal orders? After all, they are regularly instructed not to obey illegal orders.


7 posted on 02/19/2010 2:19:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Suvroc10
O'Reilly overreacted when he impugned the ability of each soldier to be able to determine for themselves what makes an order unconstitutional, using their own sense of right and wrong.

O'Reilly is a clown and apparently hasn't ever been in the military. Soldiers are trained that it is their duty to refuse illegal orders.

8 posted on 02/19/2010 2:22:50 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Suvroc10

Who cares what the socialist think. They caused problem and now its time we kick them out and start over. I don’t care if Washington is dead locked for the next 20 years.


9 posted on 02/19/2010 2:26:15 AM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Suvroc10

They didn’t mention NAMBLA being coonected to the left? LOL


10 posted on 02/19/2010 2:27:10 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: highlander_UW

Does that include refusing orders from an illegal Commander in Chief? Because by my count, there’s only been about two who’ve had the balls to do that so far.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 2:27:37 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: IntolerantOfTreason
Does that include refusing orders from an illegal Commander in Chief? Because by my count, there’s only been about two who’ve had the balls to do that so far.

The courts will have to ultimately decide that, but hasn't Obama's admin backed down on each of those and recanted the order for deployment? It would appear that Obama is shy about having the case worked out in the courts.

12 posted on 02/19/2010 2:30:41 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: highlander_UW

That certainly happened with Cook. Not sure what happened with Rhodes though, I’ll do a bit more reading. What a sight it would be if the whole of our armed forces did this; Zero would have to show or go.


13 posted on 02/19/2010 2:36:22 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: timetostand
BOR is a triangulator. He sees himself above and between the sides in the political fray. BOR called the Oathkeeper's position on guns "extremist", but it's Federal Law. BOR believes that when there is looting, the police ought to confiscate everyone's guns. Ah, how do people defend themselves against looters, BOR?

BOR is a good reporter, an old-fashioned kind of crusading journalist, but he definitely has limitations due to his background, class and experience.

BOR is wrong on environmentalism. He's wrong on Amnesty. He's wrong on guns. Recently, he had Mark Potok on from the Southern Poverty Law Center and did not identify the SPLC as a left-wing organization, which has put out biased reports on the right side of the political spectrum. SPLC's attack on the Oathkeepers is just another in a long line of smear attacks using the cover of a 'Civil Rights' organization. Why didn't BOR know this or if he did, why didn't he point this out?

SPLC is the ACORN of civil rights organizations.

14 posted on 02/19/2010 2:58:48 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: timetostand

“BOR the bloviator strikes again!! I’m really wondering about him. Who’s side is Bill on??”

BOR’s side. He’s quite a bit further to the left than I’d prefer. I recall when the Supreme Court made the ruling permitting corporations to fund political speech, he expressed concern that one might now “buy an election”.

No mention was made of 0’s expenditure of over $1 billion by turning down public funding, which he had pledged to accept. It was something like three times as much as had ever been spent on a Presidential campaign. I fail to understand why this is NEVER brought up.


15 posted on 02/19/2010 3:01:38 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

“BOR called the Oathkeeper’s position on guns “extremist”, but it’s Federal Law.”

Yes, thanks for reminding me about this. Stewart Rhodes said a couple times that regular people should never be disarmed, it’s against the Second Amendment. BOR clearly disagreed, saying that in an emergency where there’s widespread looting, the government should be able to confiscate weapons.

I guess BOR is too stupid to realize that law-abiding citizens need the weapons to defend themselves AGAINST the looters and other lawless types - possibly including government entities. He called such a common sense position (endorsed by George Washington BTW) “extreme”.


16 posted on 02/19/2010 3:05:17 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: Suvroc10

i’m confused... i thought the oath keepers were the ones where LEO, military and ex-military take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

since when did that become an extremist view point???

WTF


17 posted on 02/19/2010 3:22:55 AM PST by sten
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To: Suvroc10

An “extremist right” group is anyone who doesn’t shut up and give the liberals everything they ever wanted in their miserable worthless lives.


18 posted on 02/19/2010 3:24:31 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Suvroc10
The left considers Janeane Garafolo a legitimate political commentator and Al Franken senator material.

'nuff said.

19 posted on 02/19/2010 3:28:50 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: highlander_UW
"O'Reilly is a clown and apparently hasn't ever been in the military."

No. He was never in the military. He went to college and after his 4 years college was complete (and his draft deferment ended) he became a teacher (a whole other deferment). If he hadn't have gotten a high number in the draft lottery I'm sure he would have been a teacher until the ripe old age of 26. When he brags about being a teacher, people of my age know exactly what that means.

20 posted on 02/19/2010 3:30:36 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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