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Teacher Salaries Listed For Pa. And N.J.
BillLawrenceOnline.Com ^ | 2-19-10

Posted on 02/19/2010 8:25:37 AM PST by Tribune7

The oppressed masses in the Rose Tree Media Education Association -- the union the covers teachers, school nurses and guidance counselors in the Rose Tree Media School District (PA) -- voted to strike Wednesday.

Obviously, the working conditions in the district must be horrible for these caring professionals to take the drastic step of harming a child's education.

And they are! Consider the plight of Springton Lake Middle School physical education teacher Stephen Adams. His salary was $87,329 in 2009. And that was for 195 days grueling days of teaching gym class. Granted, he also gets benefits but can't you understand why he might have to vote to hurt a child with working conditions such as that?

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1 posted on 02/19/2010 8:25:37 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

Links to teachers salaries at the link. Great resource. Does anybody know of a N.J. ping list?


2 posted on 02/19/2010 8:27:13 AM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Tribune7

Our school district in PA was at $85K for 10 years experience and a masters degree, and that was 6 years ago....one Kindergarten teacher was making $101K.... seriously, I laughed too.


3 posted on 02/19/2010 8:29:05 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I support Coach Mike Leach)
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To: Tribune7

Every government employee should have their salary disclosed. In the ‘80s they got huge increases because it was sooooo important to have our children edumacated by high-priced professionals


4 posted on 02/19/2010 8:30:34 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Tribune7

I hope the Gov slices and dices those unions. I read a lot of them don’t pay a dime for their benefits which includes health care.

This is a scam big time and is costing the taxpayer a lot of money we don’t need to spend.


5 posted on 02/19/2010 8:31:03 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

one Kindergarten teacher was making $101K.... seriously, I laughed too.
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It is time to cry.


6 posted on 02/19/2010 8:31:25 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: stevio

They also need to look at those pensions and change them.


7 posted on 02/19/2010 8:31:37 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tribune7

Plus you get the great perks like getting to watch your students strip at home on the school issued webcams!


8 posted on 02/19/2010 8:34:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: stevio
Every government employee should have their salary disclosed.

Seriously, all military, GS, WG wages are available, but I have no clue what a particular bureaucrat makes.

Every goverment service person who a citizen has to deal with should have a prominent sign on their desk which says:

"My salary is ___________, paid for by your tax dollars. How may I serve you?"

9 posted on 02/19/2010 8:36:18 AM PST by Never on my watch (NEA - Tenure or death)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

My wife is a first grade teacher here in Mississippi in a great conservative county. She makes 40K after 16 years of service.


10 posted on 02/19/2010 8:38:05 AM PST by Sybeck1 (POTUS : Punk of the United States)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

And some wonder why people want to leave Pa.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 8:38:51 AM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Never on my watch

Every government employee should have their salary disclosed.

I was living in Ohio some years ago when one of the local papers got hold of the salary figures from several state universities and published those numbers. They were public record, but when it became widely known how much money we were paying to tenured professors in esoteric subjects, it really hit the fan.


12 posted on 02/19/2010 8:42:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Never on my watch; stevio
The salary of each and every federal employee is publicly available.

Every four years with the election of the President a new patronage book is published. Although not all the jobs in this book are actually "patronage" they carrier large enough salaries that "someone might want to know".

I made it a few times back in the days before they finally decided that no one wanted to bother trying to get a job in the USPS.

The document is usually referred to as "The Plum Book"

Take a look at http://www.transitionjobs.us/numbers-federal-budget-process

13 posted on 02/19/2010 8:44:26 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sybeck1

Yeah that is about par for Texas too, except for football coaches, who have salaries rivaling superintendents in some districts.


14 posted on 02/19/2010 8:47:30 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (I support Coach Mike Leach)
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To: Tribune7

It’s such a scandal. Add this to the benes they get and good heavens! This gravy train has to come to a screeching halt.


15 posted on 02/19/2010 8:48:09 AM PST by Antoninus (Vote Mitt Romney in 2012 -- We need an even bigger fraud in DC than Obama.)
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To: Never on my watch
I looked up my daughter's decrypt incompetent German teacher, 29 years service in our district..are you sitting down... $90,348, add in the pension, generous helthcare benefits, stipend for continuting eduction, life and disability and you are looking at at least 120k. That is much as I make as a computer consultant working 50 hours a week with no pension and paying 400 a month for my HSA, high deductible healthcare plan. We are cyber schooling next year, we live in a top 20 district in PA and it still sucks, with burntout teachers, hapless administrators and academic mediocrity.
16 posted on 02/19/2010 8:48:21 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: muawiyah

It’s possible to look up most Federal jobs online. I was surprised to find a friend’s pay online. It was good, but less than many of these teachers.


17 posted on 02/19/2010 8:49:09 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Tribune7

It can hard to compare district to district across a state or across the country. Some are very wealthy and pay a premium to get the best teachers.

In the district that includes Chesterbrook PA (big money NW of Philly) New hires have 4 years to earn a master’s degree or they are dismissed. If you are not dedicated enough to go to school nights and summers, your not their kind of teacher.

Just saying, local control is a good thing.


18 posted on 02/19/2010 8:49:34 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: Never on my watch

One of the VERY BEST ideas I have heard in a long time!

Someone said to also consider the pension cost and the benefits cost...it would probably make the salaries pale by comparison.

The present cost of each $10,000 in pension is about $130,000 to you and me. The math is easy enough on any pension calculator. This means that about 25% of the person’s salary must be set aside to provide this much cash to liquidate over a 35 year retirement.

http://www.bloomberg.com/invest/calculators/retire.html


19 posted on 02/19/2010 8:51:20 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Tribune7

I remember my uncle telling me about the Social Studies teachers from Central Bucks HS (now West) back in the mid 50s.

They used to play cards at a local tavern, buy one beer and take up an entire table sucking on their nickle beer because they were too cheap to buy another.

They waited until a working man came in and bought a round for the house then their mugs were emptied immediately.

Owner was asked to toss them out on multiple occasions and said he couldn’t do it even way back then. Nobody talked to these losers.

I knew those teachers, they were some of the worst among losers. It wasn’t respectable for men to be teachers that was why the government had to establish Penn State and Mich State as teacher’s colleges around 1853.

They ALL should have been fired when they threatened to strike the first time. Had been illegal but I think the law changed under Gov Schapp (Jerrold Electronics, now Motorola, they make cable boxes).


20 posted on 02/19/2010 8:53:37 AM PST by Eagles2003
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To: lack-of-trust

IMHO the move to attack teachers as evil public workers will backfire. My wife is a teacher who dislikes the teachers’ union and supports cutting government spending. But the person who worked 30 years with the promise of a pension is not the guilty party. The guilty parties are those who overspent on everything and never funded the pensions. Similar to social security.

If a state or locality wantd to attract good teachers with a good pension offer, they had an obligation to fund that pension and tell the public that’s one reason they don’t have the money for everything else. You don’t have the person work 30 years and then tell them they have a lot of nerve actually expecting the pension.


21 posted on 02/19/2010 8:59:23 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: Tribune7

I guess it depends on where you live. My wife is a biology teacher with 26 years experience makes 42K and no help with health insurance. She has 2 years before she can retire and she is counting the days. She says the “ NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND “ has made teachers spend most of their time on trouble makers and not enough time on kids who want to learn. The only teachers they can hire are ones right out of college and they only stay long enough to find higher paying jobs elsewhere.


22 posted on 02/19/2010 9:12:14 AM PST by kempo
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To: lack-of-trust

If we returned to districts the power to fire striking school teachers those wealthy districts wouldn’t have to pay such a premium to get good teachers.


23 posted on 02/19/2010 9:21:19 AM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: kempo
My wife and I both have our teaching certs. Teachers in Alaska top out around 70K with 25 years, masters plus 36 credits. I think it all depends on the cost of living in your area. Teachers here start around 45K, but everything's 3 times the price than where you live I bet.

1 or 2 bad ones can ruin the classroom for sure.

24 posted on 02/19/2010 9:24:17 AM PST by Eska
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m a Contract Specialist with the VA. I have the 27 years of work experience and the education for the job.

My salary?

$40,875.00


25 posted on 02/19/2010 9:26:32 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Every government employee should have their salary disclosed.

Yes, ALONG WITH the non-salary aspects of compensation: health-care premiums paid for the employee, pension contributions, etc., etc.

26 posted on 02/19/2010 9:36:29 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Tribune7

This effects all the states, because the teachers in other states complain that they are underpaid relative to the average, and argue that if you want a top school system, you should pay the most.

Of course, since everybody wants a “top” school system, despite the impossibility of more than one state being the “best state”, the idea is the salaries can keep getting jacked up without the teachers getting any better or doing any more to earn a higher pay.


27 posted on 02/19/2010 9:46:32 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: pburgh01

My son’s incompetent German teacher has been teaching for 29 years in our district. He makes $75,800, yet he cannot answer basic German grammar questions my son asks him. The teacher’s answers to my son’s questions: “We do not cover that this year.”

To add insult to injury, the class (in which my son has a 100 average) only covers 1-2 textbook pages per week. At this rate, one year of high school German may take forever.

The Spanish teacher who told my son to stop participating in class because it makes his classmates feel stupid when he knows the answers and they don’t, is not listed at all.

The history teacher who shows movies and talks about politics instead of teaching history, makes only $60,000.


28 posted on 02/19/2010 11:53:44 AM PST by cookiedough
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To: Antoninus

If someone published the individual salaries and benefits, and added up the grand total of the annual compensation of each government worker in each state, the voters would go nuts.

Lots of waste — much of it unionized.


29 posted on 02/19/2010 12:03:02 PM PST by cookiedough
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To: mom4melody

And I betcha you work a little more than 195 days a year.


30 posted on 02/19/2010 12:09:02 PM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: cookiedough
Public education like everything else is coming down, the whole ugly edifice. State and local budgets won;t allow at any level of taxation the current pension and benefit structures and the upkeep on athletic programs, facilities etc. Within 20 years the monopoly will end. I went to High School in the 1980’s and it was terrible then and is worse now. The university's despite being more selective are churning out morons and illiterates. Our company will not hire recent college grads anymore, we had a University of Michigan CIS grad, all the right qualifications, did and internship at a large software shop , he made it 4 months. He was a Gen Y zero, slow learner, moody, lazy, and slow intellectually. And UM is a good school, if they are churning out idiots like this guy, I fear for the future.
31 posted on 02/19/2010 2:32:13 PM PST by pburgh01
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To: Tribune7

Direct link: http://php.app.com/PAteachers/search.php


32 posted on 02/19/2010 8:36:40 PM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Tribune7

bump


33 posted on 03/01/2010 5:21:37 AM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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