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Pilot arrested on suspicion of flying stolen plane, making unauthorized landing at LA airport
AP via LA Times ^ | Feb. 19, 2010 | AP

Posted on 02/19/2010 4:47:48 PM PST by Beaten Valve

LOS ANGELES — Police have arrested a 23-year-old man on suspicion of flying a small stolen plane that made an unauthorized landing at Los Angeles International Airport.

Police spokesman Cleon Joseph says Skye Turner was arrested Friday afternoon, hours after he landed the Cirrus SR22 and was detained for questioning. He was booked on $20,000 bail.

An employee at a flight school based in Montgomery Field in San Diego County says the plane was reported missing Thursday night. He says the plane, which belonged to a Georgia-based client of the school, was parked behind a fence on airport property.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aviation; faa; lax; stolenairplane; theft

1 posted on 02/19/2010 4:47:49 PM PST by Beaten Valve
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To: Beaten Valve

Does anyone else here think that maybe Napolitano should work on a better way of keeping track of small planes? I’m guessing that the terrorists have been watching the news too.


2 posted on 02/19/2010 4:50:46 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

My thoughts, precisely. Who knows what kind of security the tiny airports actually have, IF any???


3 posted on 02/19/2010 4:53:32 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: marstegreg

I think Napolitano should focus on radical Muslims.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 4:54:11 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Bread and Circuses)
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To: Beaten Valve
Okay, who in their right mind would ever neame their boy Cleon? Your just asking to get his a$$ beat.

And SKYE??? Might as well dress him in a tutu right from the get go, and remove all doubt from anybody.

5 posted on 02/19/2010 4:54:54 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: marstegreg
Does anyone else here think that maybe Napolitano should work on a better way of keeping track of small planes?

No. All you will do is kill the general aviation industry. To what end? Stories like this one are anecdotal. Calling for a knee-jerk reaction is a liberal trait.

Over.

6 posted on 02/19/2010 4:56:00 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

“I think Napolitano should focus on radical Muslims.”

First you have to convince her that they are more dangerous than us.


8 posted on 02/19/2010 4:57:01 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: mountn man

One person’s “Skye” is another person’s “Laquisha”! ;^)


9 posted on 02/19/2010 4:58:15 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Beaten Valve
Skye Turner.

What is his Islamic name?

10 posted on 02/19/2010 5:02:01 PM PST by Realman30 (If 10% is good enough for Jesus, it ought to be enough for Uncle Sam.)
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To: Glenn

You seem to know about this stuff. What do you have to do to get in a plane and fly it now? Is all you need a license? If that is the case, perhaps they need to have tighter regulation of the licenses? Maybe? (I’m just trying to get more information to make an informed decision)


11 posted on 02/19/2010 5:02:28 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg
What do you have to do to get in a plane and fly it now?

You need the same things you would need for a driver's license with the addition of a medical clearance. That's enough.

12 posted on 02/19/2010 5:05:37 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Glenn

That’s really scary.


13 posted on 02/19/2010 5:08:13 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: Realman30

Um, “Sky Pilot” ?


14 posted on 02/19/2010 5:08:23 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: marstegreg
A major problem is that IF terrorists really wish to use small aircraft as Kamikaze attack pilots against buildings, it is all too possible for them to buy rural property and use barns as hangers for their craft.

That said, however, it seems that one wouldn't need to do that, there are tens of thousands of tiny airports in the USA, and anyone who was determined, and knew how to fly probably could steal a plane from almost any of them.

15 posted on 02/19/2010 5:11:26 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

There has to be a non invasive way to regulate small planes. I just get a sick feeling that some people will get very bad ideas after seeing the amount of damage inflicted. I don’t know what the right answer is (don’t know enough about the aviation industry), but there has to be a better way...


16 posted on 02/19/2010 5:18:04 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg; Nachum; SunkenCiv
Anyone happen to know how security of the AIRPLANES located in tiny airports happens to be handled in Israel?

I've never heard of any Arab stealing a small plane from a small airport and inflicting terror and/or damage with the plane.

In this day & age, it shouldn't be all that complex to make a plan to safely secure the airplanes.

17 posted on 02/19/2010 5:23:46 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I went to Egypt about 15 years ago. When we got off the plane there was a row of 20 soldiers with machine guns to greet us, and many more stationed all over. Needless to say, there were no incidents at that airport. I would imagine Israel is same. I don’t know about small airplanes, but I would imagine it is pretty tough.


18 posted on 02/19/2010 5:29:29 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg
Nah, I meant the tiny little landing strip airports where people store their SMALL private planes.

Remember all the fear about the small crop dusters, after 911, when they learned that Mohamed Atta was interested in using a crop dusting plane for a bioattack?

19 posted on 02/19/2010 5:32:06 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: marstegreg

Local ABC-TV news now saying that he was despondent and stole the plane with the possibility of flying it into the ocean.


20 posted on 02/19/2010 5:32:44 PM PST by Beaten Valve
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To: hennie pennie

Oh boy, do I remember. I think there was even talk of them hitting nuclear facilities....I had forgotten all about that. Perhaps if they had taken those things a little more seriously, things would be different.


21 posted on 02/19/2010 5:37:54 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: mountn man
Okay, who in their right mind would ever neame their boy Cleon?

And a pilot named Skye Turner?? Where's that barf-bag [never mind...]

22 posted on 02/19/2010 5:47:25 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: marstegreg
Does anyone else here think that maybe Napolitano should work on a better way of keeping track of small planes? I’m guessing that the terrorists have been watching the news too.

Napolitano, could not even keep track of a puppy.

The last thing we need is more regulation on American citizens.

General Aviation and corporate Aviation help small business here.

This kind of knee jerk reaction, resulted in TSA, grandmothers searched and now, swabbing hands for explosives, unless it is against your "religion"

23 posted on 02/19/2010 5:52:35 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze

Perhaps this is an immigration issue more than an aviation issue? It stinks that there a unbalanced Americans who kill as many as they can when they decide to die. But what really worries me is the weaponization of these small planes by those who want to hurt all Americans.


24 posted on 02/19/2010 6:01:33 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg
what really worries me is the weaponization of these small planes by those who want to hurt all Americans

There are risk to living in a free society but the benefits exponentially out weigh those risk.

25 posted on 02/19/2010 6:04:45 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze

There are risk to living in a free society but the benefits exponentially out weigh those risk.

Would you be saying this if that plane was flown into a nuclear facility?


26 posted on 02/19/2010 6:10:00 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg
Would you be saying this if that plane was flown into a nuclear facility?

I refuse to live in fear........that doesn't mean I do not take precautions, it means I'm free.

27 posted on 02/19/2010 6:11:32 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze

“that doesn’t mean I do not take precautions”

I agree. We do need to take SOME precautions. By your definition, anarchy is true freedom. I tend to disagree. I think that society functions better with rules and regulations, as long as they don’t infringe on other peoples personal freedoms. It is our freedom that gives us the right to choose between right and wrong, but that doesn’t mean we can’t make it difficult if someone chooses to do something that can endanger others.


28 posted on 02/19/2010 6:19:53 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg
"Does anyone else here think that maybe Napolitano should work on a better way of keeping track of small planes?"

Why? Do we need to lock down the country like the Soviet Union? Maybe require passes to travel outside of our neighborhoods, or maybe make everyone wear a tracking device and set curfews just so that you might feeeeel safer?

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "

29 posted on 02/19/2010 6:21:08 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: marstegreg

LMAO, I am far from a anarchist, I just know freedom requires risk.


30 posted on 02/19/2010 6:21:38 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: marstegreg

“Would you be saying this if that plane was flown into a nuclear facility?”

Your ignorance is astounding. Nuclear facilities are hardened against large jets. A small Cessna wouldn’t even scratch the paint.


31 posted on 02/19/2010 6:23:49 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad
...or maybe make everyone wear a tracking device...

The police are looking for just that capability. They want to be able to track the whereabouts of peoples' cell phones, which makes the cell phone a de facto tracking device.

32 posted on 02/19/2010 6:24:37 PM PST by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success)
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To: meyer

Yep. Sick, isn’t it?


33 posted on 02/19/2010 6:25:03 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Kakaze

O.K., maybe I was a little severe. Sorry. But true freedonm is doing anything you want when you want it. That would be disasterous (kind of like the admin. exercising their freedom to completely ignore the constitution). There is a huge gray area between freedom and regulation. I dont pretend to have the answers. These issues confuse me more than inform me. I do enjoy the discussion though. :)

I suppose we could talk about this for hours. What do you say we call a truce?


34 posted on 02/19/2010 6:35:12 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: CodeToad

Your ignorance is astounding.

It was rhetorical. Besides, I is difficult to believe you find it astounding that I didn’t know something that isn’t exactly common knowlege. You could just inform instead of insult...I guess your ignorance (with respect to others) astounds me!


35 posted on 02/19/2010 6:42:09 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

“I didn’t know something that isn’t exactly common knowlege.”

It is common knowledge, maybe not for you.

It takes a real liberal to think we need to lock down the country for the sake of “security”. It is a childish point of view for the need to feel safe and secure and be tucked into bed at night by daddy government. Heavy handed governments create their own dangers far greater than the dangers you think the government is preventing.

You are a dangerous person to think everything needs to be locked down by the government.


36 posted on 02/19/2010 7:31:23 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: marstegreg

One solution - a simple one - would be to require airplane owners affix a lock on the fuel mixture control. The lock is inexpensive and does the job since the plane is not flyable with it in place. My husband always attaches such a device (a hardened lock removed only with a key) before leaving his plane unattended.


37 posted on 02/19/2010 9:32:23 PM PST by Armywifemom
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To: Armywifemom

Do aircraft with fuel-injected (non-carbureted) engines have mixture controls?


38 posted on 02/20/2010 4:23:19 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Armywifemom

That’s a really good solution. I knew a woman would think of something good!!!! :)


39 posted on 02/20/2010 7:46:05 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: CodeToad

It seems to me that You are taking the liberal approach of name calling instead of finding a solution. It is also a very liberal characteristic to demonize those who you disagree with. I haven’t seen anything constructive come from your comments, no ideas, no solutions, only tearing down others. Do not write me back again.


40 posted on 02/20/2010 7:51:51 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: DuncanWaring

“Do aircraft with fuel-injected (non-carbureted) engines have mixture controls?”

Yes. Because aircraft change altitudes you need to adjust the fuel/air ratio. The exception to this would be in the newer aircraft engines that have full authority digital engine control (FADEC). Jet aircraft simply have throttles. Turboprop aircraft have a lever that looks like a mixture know in a piston engine, but it is a fuel cut-off lever.


41 posted on 02/20/2010 12:30:59 PM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

Thanks - I’ve flown carbureted airplanes, and I’ve flown turbine-powered airplanes (briefly), but I don’t recall having ever flown a fuel-injected airplane.


42 posted on 02/20/2010 2:39:23 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Cirrus is a sporty little plane:


43 posted on 03/04/2010 12:57:54 PM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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