Skip to comments.EPA, Countering Critics of Greenhouse Gas Findings, Says 'Science Is Settled'
Posted on 02/19/2010 4:57:19 PM PST by tobyhill
The Environmental Protection Agency, responding complaints about its December findings about the threat of greenhouse gases, issued a statement Friday saying that the "science is settled" and "greenhouse gases pose a real threat to the American people."
The statement comes after after Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli filed a petition with the EPA and a challenge in federal appeals court over the EPA's conclusions.
With climate scientists in the hot seat recently over an e-mail scandal and mistakes in a prominent U.N. report, Cuccinelli argues the EPA should "restart the process and this time use rigorous, defensible science."
He says the EPA is expected to announces measures to cap carbon emissions, based on its climate change findings, and that will put a "staggering burden" on Virginia residents and businesses.
The EPA says it is going forward with "common sense measures that are helping to protect Americans from this threat" and said its critics are trying to "stall progress."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
EPA drawing more flak on GHG emissions plan
Resistance is growing to a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) attempt to regulate greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions under the federal Clean Air Act, with several states and industry groups challenging the move.
The American Iron and Steel Institute (AISI), Washington, was one of several groups and interested parties that filed petitions in advance of the Feb. 17 deadline to challenge the EPA’s “Endangerment Filing,” in which the federal agency wants to regulate greenhouse gas emissions under the Clean Air Act.
The AISI earlier this week said it was challenging the EPA’s Endangerment Finding on the grounds that its analysis of the evidence and its process for reaching its findings were “fundamentally inadequate” (AMM, Feb. 17).
Petitions also have been filed in the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia by Gerdau Ameristeel Corp., Tampa, Fla.; Peabody Energy Corp., St. Louis; such industry groups as the National Mining Association and...
Yeah, that's the ticket. Saying that the "science is settled" makes it settled. Let's dispense with minor items such as data, evidence, proof, consensus, and the scientific method.
Is Algore the head of the EPA?
That may work against VA, and even TX, but there gonna have a problem here,IMO.
Peabody Energy has all its ducks in a row and they’re comin’ out shootin’!
there s/b they’re.
"And we're NOT going to talk about it any more, you doodoo heads!" (much stamping of cranky little feet)
common sense measures? lolol
Let us hope that junk science organizations, EPA included, start to dsappear after coming elections.
There is no such thing as settled science by its very definition
BTW, that's a derogatory reference to an individual with an advanced degree who works in a government administrative position.
Sure seems to fit EPA though.
The morons don’t even see the laughable contradiction inherent in their statement.
The states need to stagger the lawsuits and make each one on different grounds or some judge will rule it class action. If these attorney generals can get them in different courts they can most certainly get some EPA heads on some perjury charges with contradictory statements.
We need to strip the EPA from the Federal govt, and throw its components into an active volcano.
Scientists should always be ready to give an account of why they are where they are. It’s like the EPA believes Climategate means absolutely nothing, but yet cannot detail why. The lawsuit by Peabody is going to force them to do this.
Yes, Virginia, opposition among the states to climate fraud is growing: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2454495/posts
I think what they are trying to say is that the science was settled long before it was unsettled.
I know of SCIENCE FICTION... that’s more SETTLED than this GloBULL warming....
Water Vapor comprises 95% of the greenhouse gases.
Naturally occurring CO2 comprises less than 4 %.
Man-made CO2 comprises less than 4% of that 4%.
The variations in Water content in the atmosphere have significantly greater impact on the level of “greenhouse gases than any contribution man makes.
Furthermore, CO2 is an 800 year lagging indicator TRAILING temperature.
While the Arctic ice caps have retreated slightly, the Antarctic ice caps have grown and furthermore, 75% of Antarctica’s area is 8 METERS THICKER than it was 20 years ago.
Add to this the VERY long list of recently discredited AGW conclusions.....and assume for a moment that you are capable of objective assessment, you will likely conclude that there is NO GLOBAL WARMING!!!
And they have everyone so distracted with the CO2 issue that nobody is even noticing the the non-CO2 regulatory mandates that are pouring out of EPA.
The CO2 stuff will be tied up in court for years. The non-CO2 stuff - if you don't sue within 60 days you are SOL. And it is a tidal wave new requirements.
Just yesterday - requirements for diesel generators - about 900,000 impacted - cost to US citizens approximately $1B up front and another $350M per year.
No muss no fuss just done. And just an example of one of many...
The facts don’t matter.
Evil governments will take the power once an opportunity presents itself.
These GW scientists and environmental wackos has done far more damage to the world then they understand.
Time to dismantle the EPA and move all Environmental activities to individual State control.
When we take back the Congress the Reps could totally defund this cancerous Department.
It should be a promise made by the Republicans for 2010. Muzzel the EPA, or disband/defund the agency all together.
As an aside, the lawsuits that will follow once the EPA looses will be legion.
It would be outstanding to sht can EPA, Dpt of Education, HUD, HHS, Homeland Security, Dept of Labor and put Vetrans Affairs under DOD.
Rogue powers wielded by an unelected, flunky bureaucracy ... basing their decisions on junk science. A cancer.
The EPA needs to be settled -- at the end of a rope.
America -- a great idea, didn't last.
You are right. In addition, CO2 is a non polar simple molecule that has narrow absorption lines, it can’t form in chains like water. In addition it has almost already saturated its absorption at resonance. An atmosphere that is 100% CO2 would only be very slightly warmer.
The administration is trying to finish off the economy. You just don't do things like this during a major recession.
. Nonstop incessant promo Obamacare (economy-budget busting)
. Continued spending Stimulus funds on pork barrel projects (sheer money wastage - shoveling it into democrat coffers)
. Cap and Trade - Green Agenda - Global Warminig promo (American job busters each and every one of them)
. Upcoming Amnesty for illegal aliens (assuring Americans are displaced by "new citizens" willing to work for a fraction of the wages/benefits)
He's not "trying" to finish off the economy - he IS finishing off the economy! Every single day it's even more devastating Obama agenda news.
“Saying that the “science is settled” makes it settled. Let’s dispense with minor items such as data, evidence, proof, consensus, and the scientific method.”
This could make one really interesting Daubert hearing. I want a seat for the fireworks if it gets that far.
His War on Prosperity will take years to clean up even if the GOP wins in November.
All the Unions are against this as well.
The EPA is run by lunatics, not scientists.
If they believe that carbon dioxide is a hazard to people, then they should kill themselves and lessen that threat.
My GOd, how stupid can people be? Oh, I forgot, Washington DC bureaucratics. SORRY!
Let’s litigate the science and put Al Gore under oath.
” Science is never settled. The remark that the science is settled proves that the EPA is lying. The last rule of the scientific method is to reexamine the whole thing. “
Indeed. “Science is settled” is a bogus political statement and not a scientific one.