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CPAC Speaker Condemns CPAC For Allowing Gay Conservative Group (VIDEO)
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | February 19, 2010 | Eric Kleefeld

Posted on 02/19/2010 6:06:35 PM PST by Maelstorm

During a CPAC segment to recognize student conservative activists from across the country, one particular conservative, Ryan Sorba of the California Young Americans for Freedom, denounced CPAC for allowing the gay conservative group GOProud to co-sponsor the event and host a booth. After finishing his short speech against homosexuality as being contrary to the concept of natural rights -- amidst booing from the crowd -- he walked off the stage.

"Just to change the subject for just a second, I'd like to condemn CPAC for bringing GOPride (sic) to this event," said Sorba. The young activist crowd erupted into booing, but Sorbs continued. "Bring it. Bring it. I love it. I love it. I love it.

"Guess what? Guess what? All right, guess what? Civil rights are grounded in natural rights," said Sorba. "Natural rights are grounded in human nature. Human nature is a rational substance in relationship. The intelligible end of the reproductive act is reproduction. Do you understand that? Civil rights, when they conflict with natural rights, are contrary -- hey, you sit down. The lesbians at Smith College protest better than you do. The lesbians at Smith College protest than you do. All right? Bring it."


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Ryan Sorba is a brave intelligent man! He is absolutely right! It was good to hear some clapping and cheers along with the jeers. It looks like Mitt Romney supporters were out in force. It appears from this that CPAC is not so conservative. It isn't a surprise given Mitt Romney has won the straw poll the last two times.
1 posted on 02/19/2010 6:06:36 PM PST by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Here is a link to the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldnn8KwTPUk&feature=player_embedded


2 posted on 02/19/2010 6:07:01 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm
Ryan Sorba, despite his suspect resemblance to a young Liberace, has done CONSERVATIVES a tremendous service.

Today MARKED THE END OF CPAC AS A FORCE WITHIN THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT.

Good job Ryan.

3 posted on 02/19/2010 6:11:16 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Maelstorm

The tent is not big enough for homos.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 6:12:18 PM PST by anton
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To: Rome2000

I agree. This is going to damage CPAC. It was already damaged in my eyes with the Romney winning the straw poll. It shows that it is a sham. It should be called RPAC.


5 posted on 02/19/2010 6:14:44 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm

“Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the Author of nature...” —Thomas Jefferson: Legal Argument, 1770. FE 1:376


6 posted on 02/19/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: Maelstorm

Agreed-we are already into the discussion over here about it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2455352/posts


7 posted on 02/19/2010 6:15:00 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Maelstorm
"It appears from this that CPAC is not so conservative. It isn't a surprise given Mitt Romney has won the straw poll the last two times."

That's correct, it's not so "conservative" these days. The presence of factions based on their sexual preferences proves that CPAC has been corrupted. They're quickly losing credibility. Whatever influence they have will be disappear next.

8 posted on 02/19/2010 6:15:34 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Maelstorm
We've slid a long way in a few years if unrepentant depravity such as homosexuality is supported within the 'conservative' movement.

If the Democrats and the Republicans want to fight for the Sodomite vote, so be it. There are still plenty of heterosexuals around to form a third party. The West seems intent on committing suicide.

9 posted on 02/19/2010 6:15:54 PM PST by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: anton

The idea of gay pride is a leftist identity politics creation. It is incompatible with conservatism. Also gays are all about using government to mandate and force acceptance of their lifestyle. Ryan Sorba is right it isn’t about Civil rights. It is about sex and behavior.


10 posted on 02/19/2010 6:16:28 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks I didn’t see that or I wouldn’t have posted.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 6:16:55 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Liberty1970

We are the majority in the Republican Party. We and enough independents can win without the left whether it be Republican or Democrat flavored.


12 posted on 02/19/2010 6:18:16 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm

From what I saw, most the people entering the ballroom during then were people coming to see Ron Paul. Things were moving behind schedule, so the panel was occurring around 4:30 when it was supposed to be at 3:45.


13 posted on 02/19/2010 6:18:55 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: Maelstorm
CPAC is no longer relevant or representative of the CONSERVATIVE CAUSE .

The CPUSA meets at least as much as they do, and one of their members is POTUS.

FLIP SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEY AND ANY OF HIS SUPPORTERS AND THAT INCLUDES HANNITY AND COULTER BEST BEWARE.

14 posted on 02/19/2010 6:20:10 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: anton

I am assuming that the BOOS were from the RINOS, gays and “moderates’?

They should just re-name it FUDGEPAC.


15 posted on 02/19/2010 6:23:52 PM PST by max americana
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To: Maelstorm
TPM
16 posted on 02/19/2010 6:26:57 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Shadow44

I forgot the Ron Paul supporters. Thanks for pointing it out.


17 posted on 02/19/2010 6:29:12 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm

Some in the crowd weren’t too crazy about the behavior of the Paul zealots before and during his speech...


18 posted on 02/19/2010 6:38:57 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: max americana
They should just re-name it FUDGEPAC.

Bwaahaa!

19 posted on 02/19/2010 6:45:51 PM PST by Norman Greenbaum
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To: Maelstorm

Here is what Ryan was referring to.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/smith_0329/index.html


20 posted on 02/19/2010 6:50:34 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: Maelstorm

A clear line still exists between Social Conservatives and Economic/political libertarians (aka Social “Moderates” — really social liberals). It is disheartening that CPAC’s apparent perspective is far more secular and economic and far less socially Conservative than is necessary to be an effective PAC in the current realities.

The straw poll that chose Romney was quite surprising to me. A revelation about where CPAC is at ideologically. While I like many of the speakers at the CPAC, some I have serious doubts and reservations about. And some I downright reject as “Conservatives” at all.

It will be fascinating to see what Glenn Beck’s address will be like — and how it will be received. Hard to know — he could easily get booed out of the room too — or hailed as the next great thing... We’ll see.


21 posted on 02/19/2010 6:53:19 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Maelstorm

That guy was brave to speak in front of this ACT UP convention, or whatever it was.


22 posted on 02/19/2010 6:54:08 PM PST by Perchant
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To: patriot preacher

CPAC = RINOPAC


23 posted on 02/19/2010 6:58:14 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Maelstorm
It is about civil rights. The right to freedom of speech and religion. Forcing anyone to accept immoral behavior is to take away those rights.

I notice there wasn't a promiscuity group demanding to be accepted; or a adultery group. Those who favor bestiality and necrophilia don't have a booth at CPAC. Why is that? Why are the homosexuals the only group of sexual deviants (deviating from the norm) who are afforded special rights and considerations? Why are they the only group to be afforded the “alternative” lifestyle status, with political clout? There are actually many sexual “orientations”...it is not very inclusive to leave the other groups out of the tent.

Hey, how about if we leave sexual behaviors out of a meeting on political thought, and leave peoples morals to the church?

24 posted on 02/19/2010 7:01:30 PM PST by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: StormEye

Maybe it should be FPAC if the homos etc are allowed in...


25 posted on 02/19/2010 7:02:46 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: dajeeps
The “Author of nature” has already told us in His Word that homosexuality is an abomination.

And yes, I am just a sinner saved by grace btw

26 posted on 02/19/2010 7:11:40 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: patriot preacher

“...he [Glenn Beck] could easily get booed out of the room”

I looking forward to Glenn’s speech tomorrow night at 6:00 EST on FOX NEWS.

If Glenn gets booed out of the room, the GOP is dead.


27 posted on 02/19/2010 7:13:07 PM PST by panaxanax (It's time for TEA Party Patriots to get an 'ATTITUDE'.)
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To: patriot preacher

I watch a bit of Glenn Beck, he makes some good sense from time to time, but I must confess I am not quite sure who`s side he is on.


28 posted on 02/19/2010 7:15:07 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: tuckrdout

Its because they have succeeded in getting people to accept what is a lie and a dangerous one at that. Not only is it not logical to associate homosexual behavior with civil rights you are correct in pointing out the clear danger to civil rights such mislabeling of behaviors as civil rights can result in real civil rights being abridges through government mandates and programs forcing acceptance of such behavior by defining opposition as “hate” or “bigoted” when it is no such thing. Suddenly parents don’t have rights to protect their kids from exposure to what they consider inappropriate sexual material. Religious individuals are suddenly excluded from adoption agencies and the social sciences. Liberty is threatened by homosexuals and leftists social causes at every turn because they can not win through fair debate. They must have the government on their side to get their unreasonable demands enforced on a populace who just wants to be left alone.


29 posted on 02/19/2010 7:15:50 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: maddog55

It’s all about government subsidies for various communist groups, and the gays are all about being one of those.


30 posted on 02/19/2010 7:16:16 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Maelstorm

Very well said.


31 posted on 02/19/2010 7:23:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Maelstorm
Ryan Sorba, we salute you!


32 posted on 02/19/2010 7:30:18 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Liberty1970

YUP!


33 posted on 02/19/2010 7:54:13 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Liberty1970

We’ve gone a long way if we’ve moved from opposing homosexual rights, to opposing homosexual people.

I hope we also throw out anybody who had sex outside of marriage, or ever lied, or stole, or has too many speeding tickets.

Need to be the party of the perfect, I guess. I wonder if divorced and remarried people are still OK?


34 posted on 02/19/2010 7:55:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Maelstorm

It was absurd to have a gay pride group as part of the CPAC support team.


35 posted on 02/19/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rome2000

Good thing Rubio spoke yesterday, so we can ignore his involvement.


36 posted on 02/19/2010 7:57:09 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: patriot preacher

Does the straw poll only work for people at the conference, or do they allow other people to vote?


37 posted on 02/19/2010 7:58:36 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: anton

The tent is big enough for sinners who don’t publicly revel in their sinfulness.


38 posted on 02/19/2010 8:02:03 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Or J.D. Hayworth or Jim Demint or Phyllis Schlafly or Andrew Breitbart or Judge Andrew Napolitano, who were also around on Thursday according to the agenda...magritte


39 posted on 02/19/2010 8:02:52 PM PST by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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"Maybe it should be FPAC if the homos etc are allowed in..."

LOL! It's the beginning of the end of CPAC. It was a good organization at one time. It has now degenerated in forum for RINO blowhards.

40 posted on 02/19/2010 8:05:10 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Maelstorm

I thought that a lot of what he said was very good, but having read some of the comments here, I think his words were misunderstood.

And the fact that CPAC had him, Rubio, the Cheneys, as well as Scott Brown, Mitt Romney, and as well as Glenn Beck, shows that CPAC isn’t an ideologically narrow meeting, but does offer a platform for us to air and discuss many different viewpoints.

We need to be able to have these speeches, and debates, and discussions, and it bothers me that some posters in this thread wish that these opportunities were stifled.

It is also discouraging that some here want to impose a moral litmus test, but only for specific sins that are particularly disgusting to us.

I would prefer that we elect once-married protestant men with solid families and a squeaky-clean private lives. But if everybody only votes for the perfect people, we won’t elect anybody. So I happily cast my vote for Catholics, for single people, for divorced men, for women, if on the issues they are solid, and on philosophy the are committed to limited government constitutional principles.

And if they happened to be gay, but aren’t pushing gay rights, and the alternative is some liberal, I’d vote for a gay person. They are sinners, but so are we all.


41 posted on 02/19/2010 8:08:35 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: magritte

Yes. It is wrong to think of CPAC as the epitome of ideological conservatism. But it is also wrong to discard it for political purposes.

Of course, I’m convinced that if Sarah Palin had decided to speak at CPAC, there would be only muted complaints here about them. And of course, if CPAC hadn’t allowed a pro-homosexual-rights group to sponsor them, I don’t think there would be much complaining even though Romney tends to win the straw polls.

Since the straw poll doesn’t seem to have mattered (didn’t Hucakbee win in 2008?) I don’t see it as something to get worked up about.

But I knew that with Sarah Palin publicly denouncing CPAC there would be a considerable force here denouncing it as well.

I was in fact surprised at how muted that criticism was yesterday, but I figured it was because of the strength of the speakers.


42 posted on 02/19/2010 8:13:52 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

This year’s CPAC has the most attendees ever...the speakers are varied and pretty solid, with populist Glenn Beck wrapping it up...like it or not, this is the “team” for the Republicans in 2010 and 2012...magritte


43 posted on 02/19/2010 8:21:38 PM PST by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
We’ve gone a long way if we’ve moved from opposing homosexual rights, to opposing homosexual people.

I agree. But they aren't there as people. They are there as part of their 'movement' to force people to accept homosexuality. Presumably there are individual homosexuals at the conference who are not part of this pro-sodomy organization, and that's fine.

To put it another way, I assume there are adulterers and burglars in the crowd at CPAC too. But if CPAC starts accepting organizations devoted to advocating adultery as normal and demanding that people just accept burglary as an alternative lifestyle, then I have a problem with that.

44 posted on 02/19/2010 8:27:58 PM PST by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Charles it looks as tall those folks who were saying I ain't voting for McCain and we got Obama and now many of those purists are at it again. I sometimes wonder just how conservative those folks really are and if their agenda is not to cause dissent ion in the ranks. If the tea party folks who I support go astray they will guarantee that Obama gets a second and maybe a third and fourth term. It's time to take a stand for good government and better politicians who will listen to their constituents. However, shooting ourselves in the foot in 2010 and 2012 is crazy. The definition of insanity is doing the same failed thing over and over as we did in 2008. I decided to lay out of FR after the 2008 debacle because the cyberbullies had taken over and I hope this time sanity prevails. Loud do not make it right but firm pressure with a little surgar can work miracles.
45 posted on 02/19/2010 10:27:41 PM PST by OKIEDOC (I would rather be hung with a few brave conservatives than live a lifetime with cowardly liberals.)
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To: OKIEDOC

It bothers me that we have groups like “GOProud” on the conservative side. If they have a conservative agenda, why be a “gay” group? If they have a gay agenda, they don’t belong in the conservative fold.

It seems counterproductive. Groups should be defined by the issues that are advocating, not the orientation of their membership. Of course, my opinion is that GOProud IS advocating a gay agenda — after all, they are pushing for an openly gay military.


46 posted on 02/19/2010 11:03:03 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Maelstorm
I couldn't watch the entire video. Heartbreaking. Here is an excerpt from Sophia Smith's will:

"ELEVENTH: The religious influence of this School shall not be sectarian, but evangelically Christian."

47 posted on 02/19/2010 11:29:17 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Maelstorm

Sorba is dead-on. It is a disgrace that they invited/allowed GOProud. It isn’t bad enough that CPAC tolerates RINOs, nanny-staters, and ACLU-shills like Bob Barr. Now the gays have taken over the conference as well. Did you see those dozens of men standing up to heckle him? Who are they? Keene is a pathetic tool. The fags have totally infiltrated this once-fine conference. It is just disgusting.


48 posted on 02/19/2010 11:34:36 PM PST by montag813
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I hope we also throw out anybody who had sex outside of marriage, or ever lied, or stole, or has too many speeding tickets.

Are adulterers, liars, thieves and speeders demanding that their behavior be held up as morally equivalent? The gays are. They can do as they please, but they have no right to redefine marriage. And who is "they" anyway? This about isn't some "race" needing 14th Amendment protections. What about Sarah MacLachlan, Anne Heche and others, who once lived as homosexual but now have families and children. Are they "lesbians", are they "straight"? What about ex-gays? The very idea that these people who practice changable sexual behaviors constitute a special status worthy of constitutional recognition should be abhorrent to every conservative. To every American.

49 posted on 02/19/2010 11:43:04 PM PST by montag813
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To: tuckrdout; patriot preacher
I watch a bit of Glenn Beck, he makes some good sense from time to time, but I must confess I am not quite sure who`s side he is on.

He's not on the side of Truthers—even within the GOP!

Hey, how about if we leave sexual behaviors out of a meeting on political thought, and leave peoples morals to the church...?"

Because The Church proved that homosexuals corrupt America's male children?

50 posted on 02/20/2010 1:38:11 AM PST by Does so (ObamaCare...I pay for medical-marijuana claims by millions of Americans?)
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