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Gay Republicans draw support, concern at CPAC
(State-controlled) CNN.com ^ | February 19, 2010 | Brianna Keilar

Posted on 02/20/2010 12:36:18 PM PST by USALiberty

An unlikely sponsor at this year's annual conservative conference is hoping to not only promote the issues that set it apart from many Republicans, but also draw attention to the beliefs they share.

The group is called GOProud -- a name that combines GOP and gay pride. So far, the group is getting a mixed response at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cpac; cpac2010; fudgepac; gays; goproud; homosexualagenda
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Has CPAC gone POLITICALLY CORRECT? How did a group like GOPoud even GET IN THE DOOR?

Thereis no room for such perverts in the coservtive movement.

1 posted on 02/20/2010 12:36:18 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

Political party over conservative principal?

Profits over patriotism?

Profits regardless of consequences?

Compromise values by casting votes for the better evil?

Compromise over principle?

What did that get us?

A party and a united people that fragmented like a grenade, an economy that nosed dived into the ground, and widespread government fraud, betrayal and corruption.


2 posted on 02/20/2010 12:37:41 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: USALiberty

Some folks who swear up and down that they are bastions of conservatism are satisfied with economic conservatism and couldn’t care less about social values reflected in law. It’s similar to the RINO/Republican split. The gays, of course, are alinskying this to the full, because if they can herd the Tea Party, etc. into circular firing squads then they will have Demonrats forever and ever.


3 posted on 02/20/2010 12:39:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: USALiberty

They were paying sponsors. Don’t you remember THAT debate?

We were assured this would not happen.


4 posted on 02/20/2010 12:43:11 PM PST by GeronL (I pledge allegiance to the Principles of the Bill of Rights and to protect and defend it...)
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To: USALiberty

What exactly do gays have to be proud about, just because they’re gay? What does one who sleeps with the same sex have to be proud about? The fact they admit it? Why does that supposed to make one proud? The fact ‘they are ok with themselves’ for the gross and unhealthy stuff they do? Who takes pride in that?

Might I suggest if you feel proud about who you are and what a great person you are, perhaps you’re not looking hard enough, and maybe a just a bit self-centered and your ego is a bit inflated?

Pride goes before a fall. A proud look, the Lord hates.


5 posted on 02/20/2010 12:43:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
social values reflected in law

That is at the HEART of what it is to be a conservative! The more we drive for laws aligned with the LAWS OF GOD, the more we serve the true cause of conservative values! Google the term "theonomy." I truly believe it will be the salvation of the USA.
6 posted on 02/20/2010 12:43:55 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

Brokeback CPAC?


7 posted on 02/20/2010 12:45:33 PM PST by Schnucki
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To: USALiberty

If the GOP adopts the Gay Agenda of same-sex marriage, ending DADT and other such normalization of homosexuality, the party is rightfully dead!

Adopting liberal policies cost the party a lot in 2006 & 2008.

This just may finish it off.


8 posted on 02/20/2010 12:46:12 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: USALiberty

Now there is a huge voting block the conservatives should seek out. /sarc


9 posted on 02/20/2010 12:46:28 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: USALiberty

onyx just posted this on the other thread about CPAC, I can’t format it nicely the way she did, though.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2455651/posts?page=153

Legislative Priorities
GOProud’s Conservative Agenda

The so-called “gay agenda” is defined by the left through a narrow prism of legislative goals. While hate crimes and employment protections may be worthy goals, there are many other important priorities that receive little attention from the gay community. GOProud’s agenda emphasizes conservative and libertarian principles that will improve the daily lives of all Americans, but especially gay and lesbian Americans.

1 - TAX REFORM - Death tax repeal; domestic partner tax equity, and other changes to the tax code that will provide equity for gays and lesbians; cut in the capital gains and corporate tax rates to jump start our economy and create jobs; a fairer, flatter and substantially simpler tax code.

2 - HEALTHCARE REFORM - Free market healthcare reform. Legislation that will allow for the purchase of insurance across state lines - expanding access to domestic partner benefits; emphasizing individual ownership of healthcare insurance - such a shift would prevent discriminatory practices by an employer or the government.

3 - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - Bringing basic fairness to the Social Security system through the creation of inheritable personal savings accounts.

4 - DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL REPEAL - Repeal of the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy.

5 - HOLDING THE LINE ON SPENDING - Standing up for all tax payers against wasteful and unneccessary spending to protect future generations from the mounting federal debt.

6 - FIGHTING GLOBAL EXTREMISTS - Standing strong against radical regimes who seek to criminalize gays and lesbians.

7 - DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION - Opposing any anti-gay federal marriage amendment.

8 - ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY ENTREPRENEURSHIP - Package of free market reforms to encourage and support small businesses and entrepreneurship in the gay community.

9 - REVITALIZING OUR COMMUNITIES - A package of urban related reforms; expanding historic tax preservation credits; support for school choice.

10 - DEFENDING OUR COMMUNITY - Protecting 2nd amendment rights.


10 posted on 02/20/2010 12:46:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Schnucki

More like “PC-PAC”


11 posted on 02/20/2010 12:46:57 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

Well, somebody needs to sit down together and come up with a workable plan to get around the problem. Not even all Christians are going to agree exactly what should go into a “theonomy” and we don’t want to create a second cat fight.


12 posted on 02/20/2010 12:47:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: USALiberty
Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what one's sexual preference is as long as they stay out of our schools and away from our kids.

What they do behind closed doors is none of my business. As far as CPAC inviting them, I don't care one way or the other. If GOP Proud or whatever their group is supports less government, I don't have a problem with them.

13 posted on 02/20/2010 12:48:36 PM PST by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: little jeremiah

“GOProud” (pride GOeth before a fall?) can’t appreciate what a morale disaster that anything looser than DADT will be. That isn’t a typo. Yes it would be a “moral” disaster but more practically we are faced with a “morale” disaster. If we force unwilling participants to be in “buggery platoons” this is tantamount to sexually harassing them.


14 posted on 02/20/2010 12:50:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: USALiberty

This group is a special interest group. They may be Republican, but they are NOT Conservative, and do not belong a CPAC.


15 posted on 02/20/2010 12:51:16 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: little jeremiah
domestic partner tax equity, and other changes to the tax code that will provide equity for gays and lesbians

BARF! Lost me RGHT THERE! God's law is pretty clear on this. If government gets involved with homosexuality at all, its proper role is to pass laws that seek to help weed out this perversion from our society once and for all. It can be done and should be done.

16 posted on 02/20/2010 12:51:43 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: Darren McCarty
What they do behind closed doors is none of my business. As far as CPAC inviting them, I don't care one way or the other. If GOP Proud or whatever their group is supports less government, I don't have a problem with them

Compromise over principal...The GOP is really good at that.

They walked into the hall with their agenda on their sleeves and stacked like chips on the table.

17 posted on 02/20/2010 12:51:59 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Schnucki

http://www.movieweb.com/tv/TEFl6FIN2B0aIJ/HUDofIFJmqYpHH


18 posted on 02/20/2010 12:52:30 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Darren McCarty

Read the GOProud’s agenda above, in their own words. You call that less government? Even want to interfere in other countries who are non-”gay” friendly?


19 posted on 02/20/2010 12:53:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The other day somewhere on FR (ha will never find it) a “gay” activist was quotes as being asked “Isn’t there a danger that open homosexuals in the military will weaken it?” The answer was that a weakened military was part of the whole idea.

They WANT a weakened military.

It’s insane.


20 posted on 02/20/2010 12:54:58 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: gidget7
They may be Republican, but they are NOT Conservative, and do not belong a CPAC

They are "Republican" the way John McCain is "Republican." They are IN NO WAY conservative.
21 posted on 02/20/2010 12:55:32 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: little jeremiah

Alinsky would be proud too...


22 posted on 02/20/2010 12:56:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I have a quote somewhere in my files (can’t find it right this minute as my computer is all disorganized from several problems, now fixed) from Thomas Jefferson, saying something to the tune of the more he reads, the more he sees that the basic moral principles as espoused in all relgions are what civilizations should be based upon. Not stated excatly but more or less that’s what he said. That’s what got me started on the Moral Absolutes Ping list, IIRC.


23 posted on 02/20/2010 12:57:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

Well, they need to be answered smartly when they saunter into something like CPAC, and made clear that this is not welcome. Let them know too that if their feewings are hurt, they can call us homophobic all they want, but we will not budge just because they called us a name.


24 posted on 02/20/2010 12:59:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: USALiberty

Even John McCain is more “Republican” than the GOQueers.


25 posted on 02/20/2010 12:59:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: little jeremiah
the basic moral principles as espoused in all religions are what civilizations should be based upon.

No. God is not religiously neutral and we should not be religiously neutral either. This is a Christian nation founded upon the bedrock of God's Holy Word. We stray from that at our peril. Sure, we can and should tolerate most other religions (but you can't convince me that Islam really IS a religion). But our laws should reflect our Christian heritage and be aligned with the Laws of God as much as we can make them.
26 posted on 02/20/2010 1:01:36 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

FUDGEPAC


27 posted on 02/20/2010 1:01:38 PM PST by TADSLOS (Presidential charisma without repect for liberty is a dangerous trait.)
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To: TADSLOS
FUDGEPAC

Excellent!

28 posted on 02/20/2010 1:02:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: USALiberty

I have no problem with that, since the Judeo Christian morality and values were the founding of this country. But what Jefferson was referring to is that amazingly enough (or not), all basic moral absolutes are essentially the same in all monotheist religions, and I include Hinduism since it is actually monotheistic. Even Buddhism, which is more a philosophy than an actual religion, espouses the same moral absolutes - did you know the Dalai Lama considers homosexuality unnatural and is against same sex marriage?

Even Islam, as much as I loathe it, has in principle, the same moral values. Leaving aside polygamy, but that is extant in the OT as well.


29 posted on 02/20/2010 1:07:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
Now this plank is where I have some problems. We don't need government getting involved in "domestic benefits." Just because I don't care what they do in their homes, does not mean I support paying for it with my tax money.

As far as global extremists goes, I'm generally less-interventionist in foreign policy, and would like to see a return to supporting America first.

30 posted on 02/20/2010 1:08:19 PM PST by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: TADSLOS

Foul United Depraved Gender-Exceptioned Political Action Committee


31 posted on 02/20/2010 1:09:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You notice how the “gay” agenda is really gathering steam. 0bama wants to push it hard since he knows he’ll either be out before his term is up, or at the end of this one at the latest. So all the foot soldiers as well as “big guys” are pushing pushing pushing.

They need to be put in their place and given no quarter.


32 posted on 02/20/2010 1:09:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL!


33 posted on 02/20/2010 1:09:52 PM PST by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO!)
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To: Darren McCarty

How about the “gay marriage” one and repeal of DADT? Don’t those bother you?


34 posted on 02/20/2010 1:10:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

Bad Juju and Bad Zen.


35 posted on 02/20/2010 1:12:10 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: little jeremiah

Well, they stuck the narrow end of their wedge where it is not going to be tolerated this time.


36 posted on 02/20/2010 1:14:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: little jeremiah
Gay marriage is already banned in my state and it is an issue that should be left to the states as the original intent of the 10th Amendment. I don't live in Vermont, so it isn't my business what goes on there. We banned it 60-40% here, and I was part of the 60%.

I didn't serve in the military, so I don't have an opinion on Don't ask, don't tell. That's something the military should decide, not politicians.

37 posted on 02/20/2010 1:31:09 PM PST by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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The head generals who don’t live in barracks and have never been on a battlefield? Because some of them are for it.

Anyone who is concerned about the morale of the military should have an opinion of DADT. They protect us and deserve our support in every way. And the majority of the military do NOT want homosexuals in the military.


38 posted on 02/20/2010 1:35:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Darren McCarty

Same sex marriage is causing legal problems already between states. So that’s a sort of copout answer too.


39 posted on 02/20/2010 1:36:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s gathering like a ripe boil.

Which is apparently what needs to happen to resolve the whole mess.


40 posted on 02/20/2010 1:44:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: USALiberty

Here comes the hyphenated conservative, and with it, divisiveness by it’s very nature, but then, that’s the whole point isn’t it....


41 posted on 02/20/2010 1:47:52 PM PST by csense
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To: USALiberty

Gag me, gag me, gonna take a rope and hang me. Who said something similar? His name is on the tip of my tongue.


42 posted on 02/20/2010 1:48:23 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy

Wasn’t that a silly song from Roger Miller? Or was it Jimmy Dean?


43 posted on 02/20/2010 1:54:12 PM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: Darren McCarty

This gay group is not some innocent little coffee klatsch that stays quietly behind closed doors. The group has a radical liberal agenda.

The group wants to repeal don’t ask, don’t tell — which grievously undermine the world’s greatest military.

The group opposes the federal marriage amendment even though such an amendment is essential to religious freedom. It would help stop the attacks of activist judges on religious freedom and traditional values.

The group says that hate crime and employment legislation are “worthy goals.”

The group is for “domestic partner tax equity” — domestic partner is another word for shacking up. Another nail in the coffin for traditional marriage.

This gay group is nothing but trouble. CPAC should not be giving it credibility.


44 posted on 02/20/2010 1:56:33 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: USALiberty

Would this group not be supported by Dick Cheney? They have an advocate in the former vp. Not sure how Liz Cheney feels, but I assume it would be along the same lines. It’s the one thing that disappoints me about him, even though I understand he has his daughter to consider.


45 posted on 02/20/2010 2:17:23 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

The fact that his daughter is homosexual is no excuse. A parent’s love is unconditional but that is no reason to embrace the homosexual agenda - to the detriment of the military.


46 posted on 02/20/2010 2:30:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: USALiberty; SevenofNine

47 posted on 02/20/2010 2:37:27 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: USALiberty

I honestly don’t understand why we in anyway need cohesiveness the matter of “gay rights” or really almost any other Inherently domestic political matter.

If we all agree to embrace limited constitutional government theses matters will be resolved at the State and local level where we do agree more....

I don’t see this as being a justifiably relevant dispute.


48 posted on 02/20/2010 3:28:12 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: little jeremiah

They are moderate democrats, is all. Nothing conservative there.


49 posted on 02/20/2010 4:34:21 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82

Except that they’re pretending to be something else. I don’t even know about “moderate” Democrats.


50 posted on 02/20/2010 4:40:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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