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"Most citizens, however, don't elect senators with the thought in mind, 'OK, that'll make sure nothing gets done.'"

Is that really a bad idea? LOL!

1 posted on 02/20/2010 5:31:26 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Biden could get rid of Senate rules
with the swing of his gavel


34 posted on 02/20/2010 6:41:55 PM PST by element92
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Built into the Senate by the Founding Fathers is fear of a tyranny of the majority.

The Founding Fathers, if you will recall, intended the Senate to be populated by Senators elected by state legislatures, not directly by the electorate. So, if you want to bring the Founding Fathers into the debate over the filibuster, then return the Senate to what the Founding Fathers created before tinkering with the rules of the Senate.

While the 17th was a great populist idea intended make it more difficult to corrupt Senators, it hasn't worked out any better than prohibition. Rather than being less corruptible, most Senators are now always in DC, many are completely out of touch with the people in their state, and it's even easier to corrupt Senators so inclined because they're beholden to national interests first rather than state interests first. It's no wonder that the 10th Amendment is so often ignored when the Senate is populated by members who look down on their state legislatures rather than having to stay attuned to them.

You can't very well say you're trying to do what the Founding Fathers intended in the way of debate in the Senate when you've already destroyed the Senate they intended. With the Senate already drastically altered from the form our forefathers intended, returning to 67 votes is the better idea than any further erosion rights of the minority. Regards

35 posted on 02/20/2010 6:50:13 PM PST by Rashputin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This country is much better off when congress is not in session. I pray congress will stay paralyzed. All of the legislation supposedly on their plates is not what most Americans want - just fascist/marxist progressives.


36 posted on 02/20/2010 7:09:18 PM PST by Jukeman
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“Congress is paralyzed.”

Then how the heck did they spend $4 trillion last year?!?!?

Who buys this garbage? Do they just make stuff up to justify the failures of the Democrat majority in Congress?


37 posted on 02/20/2010 7:14:31 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“The Tyranny of the Minority in the U.S. Senate “

“The Tyranny of the Minority” rest on the assert that the majority have the right to impose what ever they want upon the minority.

“Most citizens, however, don’t elect senators with the thought in mind, ‘OK, that’ll make sure nothing gets done.’”
Most citizens elect their senators and reps to represent their states and their individual interest in congress.

If they have a vested interest in seeing to it that nothing gets done with regard to a particularly bill such as the American people overwhelmingly do with regard to the health-care bill.
Then yes WE DO EXPECT OUR Representatives to insure that nothing gets done!


38 posted on 02/20/2010 8:43:44 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; cripplecreek; JLLH; facedown

Maybe the author of this shallow piece should see this:

http://www.breitbart.tv/naked-emperor-news-hypocrite-harry-reids-filibuster-flip-flop/


40 posted on 02/20/2010 9:57:18 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Diana, you forgot the “mind-numb-moronic-report-of-the-year” alert!


42 posted on 02/20/2010 11:06:31 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I would remind the author that the founding fathers did not have ELECTED senators. It was not until after the ratification of the 17th amendment that this became an issue. The easy fix is to repeal the 17th.

Then have each state legislature to select a senator to represent the legislative authority and each state Governor to select a senator to represent the executive authority of their state.

Each respective senator would serve a period of 6 years, unless removed by the Senate, or removed by recall of 2/3rds of the legislature. Governor would appoint individuals to finish an incomplete term. No senator would be able to serve as a Senator for the same state more than a total of 12 years (two terms). No former Governor or State legislator would be allowed to serve as a Senator. Only individuals who have paid taxes as state residents for the immediately prior 6 years and who have not been convicted of either a state or federal felony and who are citizens of the US, would be eligible to serve.

Compensation for this office to be provided by the State. Office space, housing in DC, transportation and other expenses and staff salaries (equal to the number of congressional districts in the state) to be provided to each senator by the Federal government. Secrete Service to provide security. States may decide to augment these expenses as they see fit.

43 posted on 02/21/2010 3:19:15 AM PST by taxcontrol
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>>They elect them to vote convictions - to actually accomplish something by putting country first. <<

WRONG, WRONG, A THOUSAND TIMES WRONG. Senators are elected to represent the people. Follow the orders of We the People or find another line of work more suited to your talents. Stoop laborer, sanitation worker, sewer repaairman all come to mind.


44 posted on 02/21/2010 4:34:57 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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“An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.”

If the pubbies don’t prevent this bastardization of both our Constitution and our healthcare system then we will have decades of trillion dollar cure ahead of us.

Resisting power grabs is an important part of what we elect representatives for. When it comes to laws, the intrusions into citizens’ lives you STOP are at least as important as the good, reasonable laws you pass.

Don’t change the rules (filibuster) just because your marxist takeover failed. Unless you are looking for a REALLY BIG reaction from the people who have already told you to cease and desist.


45 posted on 02/21/2010 4:58:27 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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The Dims had almost a year in which even the filibuster could not have stopped them. They could have passed anything that was proposed, no matter how loud the voices of opposition.

The fact that they didn’t get their stuff done can only mean one thing: They wanted Republican “cover votes” so their radicalism would appear bi-partisan or some of their so-called “moderates” could vote against the radical bill and the republicans wouldn’t give it to them.


53 posted on 02/21/2010 7:51:04 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Global Warming: Deader than disco)
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