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1 posted on 02/20/2010 6:35:24 PM PST by ventanax5
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Christendom pushed back because it was still united. This was long before the Reformation.


2 posted on 02/20/2010 6:45:59 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: ventanax5
Christendom is still under attack. Some people know this. EDL: http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/12/this-is-england-on-the-trail-with-the-edl/
4 posted on 02/20/2010 6:52:19 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: ventanax5
Saint James the Muslim Slayer saved Spain from an Islamic take over. If it wasn't for him, Spain would be another Somalia.


5 posted on 02/20/2010 7:03:17 PM PST by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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6 posted on 02/20/2010 7:04:22 PM PST by americanophile (Good luck Team USA! Bring home the gold!)
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8 posted on 02/20/2010 7:09:45 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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The truth is, the reason for the crusades were as much political/financial as they were religious. There was loot to be had, which is much the same reason the muslims invaded much of Europe prior to the crusades.
9 posted on 02/20/2010 7:10:17 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: ventanax5

What many people tend to forget, is that much of what is now the Middle East, was Christian land, and the ancestors of today’s Muslims, once Christian themselves.


12 posted on 02/20/2010 7:37:19 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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Actualy, it was Latin Christendom. And they were supposed to help the East Romans/Byzantines but eventually sacked Constantinople. And I'm not even going to get into the targetting of the Jews in the Rhineland.

The Crusades were necessary. I just wish they had been carried out better.

PS. Soem opf my ancestors were fighting the Caliphate in the Caucuses intermittently from 650 to 737 ina series of wars that makes Tours look like the turning back of a Recon in Force.

14 posted on 02/20/2010 7:50:41 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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The miracle of Lepanto also helped in this defeat. Check out these FR threads to find out what happened.

How Europe Escaped Speaking Arabic
The Battle of Lepanto
Civilization in the Balance: The Battle of Lepanto and Election ‘08

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A Call To Prayer: This Lepanto Moment [Repost]
Lepanto, 1571: The Battle That Saved Europe
Celebrating the Battle of Lepanto
Clash of civilizations: Battle of Lepanto revisited

Lepanto, Bertone e Battesimo, Oh My!
Lepanto Sunday
Our Lady of the Rosary of La Naval (A Mini-Lepanto in the Philippines)
Swiss Guards at the Battle of Lepanto, 7 October 1571
Battle of Lepanto

LEPANTO, 7 OCTOBER 1571: The Defense of Europe
Battle of Lepanto
Remember Lepanto!
The Battle of Lepanto
On This Day In History, The Battle of Lepanto
The Battle of Lepanto

Chesterton's Lepanto
The Miracle At Lepanto...
Lepanto
The Naval Battle of Lepanto
The Battle of Lepanto

16 posted on 02/20/2010 8:53:54 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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And .. I have always believed the Crusades had the right idea .. there was no “cooperation” - THERE WAS ONLY DEATH to Islam’s followers.

We are much too spineless to do that again. We are so “sensitive” to the plight of others, we cannot bear to be called names by the NYT for being willing to destroy our enemies.

The very reason we won WWII was because we destroyed the enemy. While we did take a lot of prisoners, we killed a lot more - more of those who would have tried to raise the Hitler model again. As a result of our resolve, we rid the planet of that horrible group of people.


34 posted on 02/21/2010 10:07:27 AM PST by The Final Harvest (Our RIGHTS are given to us by GOD; not Congress or the President)
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I remember that when one of the Christian Kings of Spain was asked to participate in a Crusade, he made a statement to the effect: “Why should I journey to the Holy Land when we have plenty of Moors to kill in my own country?”


36 posted on 02/21/2010 12:02:21 PM PST by pawdoggie
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37 posted on 02/22/2010 7:02:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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