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To: ventanax5

What many people tend to forget, is that much of what is now the Middle East, was Christian land, and the ancestors of today’s Muslims, once Christian themselves.


12 posted on 02/20/2010 7:37:19 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

It will be Christian again. Most Muslims will be happy to convert back. Those who won’t can always go back into the sands they came from.


13 posted on 02/20/2010 7:47:33 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: James C. Bennett
What many people tend to forget, is that much of what is now the Middle East, was Christian land, and the ancestors of today’s Muslims, once Christian themselves.

That's amazing to think about.

27 posted on 02/21/2010 3:09:38 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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To: James C. Bennett

Yes it was once mostly Christian land, and the secret was that the Muslims began having more and more children who were indoctrinated into Islam. Thus, the world is reaping millions of Islamists, while the western world IS ABORTING THEIR CHILDREN. In Mark Steyn’s book, “America Alone”, he points out that it’s America alone who is still having more children - even if abortion is legal.

What is the count now of abortions ..??: 40 million ..??

But .. the backside of the story goes way back to Biblical times. Sarah and Abraham could not have children, and though God promised them a child, after 25 years of waiting, they gave up too soon and Sarah agreed to allow her husband to take one of her handmaidens - and thus Ishmael was born.

According to Jewish law, the first born SON inherits everything from the father. Thus, Ishmael grew up believing he was the heir of all that belonged to Abraham (especially the land). Ishmael was not Jewish - he was Muslim.

However, Sarah gave birth to a child also, Isaac, and because Isaac was born under the law of marriage, Isaac was considered by God to be the sole heir.

So began the march by Ishmael’s ancestors to take over the lands of the Middle East - they believed they were entitled to the lands because of Ishmael being the “first born”.

It’s seems almost unreal to me that this whole conflict in the Middle East is between half-brothers who are fighting over the land that God gave to their father, Abraham. This is why they hate Israel so much - because Israel inhabits land which the Muslims believe belongs to them.

I know there were a lot of political things that went on also in this area, but the goal remained the same: Ishmael’s ancestors were determined to gain all the lands that were promised to Abraham by God.

And .. much has been made of the treatment of women by the believers of Islam. I have a theory regarding that: Remember that Ismael hated his mother because she was too cowardly to demand that Abraham confer upon her son the status of heir. Ismael was always hateful toward Isaac, so much so that Sarah finally demanded of Abraham that Ismael and his mother be put out of the camp. It would not be unreasonable to believe that Ishmael hated Sarah for doing this. I see a pattern here of hatred of women by Ismael - his mother for being weak, and Sarah for bullying Abraham into denying the inheritance to Ismael.

Is it any wonder then that Islam treats its women with such distain ..?? They have become baby factories - that’s all.

Sorry to be so wordy, but a lot of people do not know this information.


35 posted on 02/21/2010 10:56:21 AM PST by CyberAnt (Our RIGHTS are given to us by GOD; not Congress or the President)
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