Mitt Romney second.
At a conservative convention.
Me:
Posted on 02/20/2010 8:52:39 PM PST by Maelstorm
Texas Representative Ron Paul won the 2010 CPAC straw poll tonight, beating out both Mitt Romney & Sarah Palin, and raking in 31% of the vote. Paul, a Libertarian who is perhaps best known for his aggressive stance against the Federal Reserve, has a dedicated group of followers which have again affirmed their influence within the Republican party.
What this means for a 2012 bid for presidency is uncertain, however; Paul’s supporters were a vocal and visible group when he ran for President in 2008, but in the end, Paul walked away with only a small percentage of the actual votes. According the Huffington Post, Paul was the most anticipated speaker at the three-day convention, and his followers flooded the auditorium to hear him speak; yet when the results of the straw poll were announced, the crowd booed loudly.
Perhaps this shows just how much Paul’s old-school approach to Republicanism fractures the GOP. Ron Paul is an unorthodox figure in the political scene; his libertarian manifesto, The Revolution, is a New York Times bestseller; he rallies against neoconservatives and liberals alike while preaching states rights, free-market economics, and small government.
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The left has a strategy to break us and force our submission. They have implemented it and have succeeded in wearing us down. Does anyone think that the Republican leaders would've resisted the call for Cap and Trade if it were not for us in the grass roots? Do you think they would have resisted the increasing pressure to call what is a sexual behavior a civil right? Do you think they would've resisted Health Care when Mitt Romney an architect of the oppressive Massachusetts health care plan is the one they wanted as our Presidential candidate? We need a plan to break the left. The Tea Party is the first time conservatives with a real plan based on founding principles has coalesced and we are breaking them as much as they are breaking themselves. We have plenty even in these forums that are eager to go back to the status quo. They want to elect liberal Republicans just so we can get an easy win and wont have to actually work, explain, and advocate principles that appeal universally to voters when articulated well, instead they want to sneak in.
Well the left does work hard because they are like thieves. They know the value of the liberty they are stealing from us. They know the value of the power they are gaining over us by forcing us to accept their false premises, issues, and lifestyles. We as conservatives tend to just want them to go away and leave us alone. We need to keep focused and understand that they will not and that we have to create an execute a solid plan and make them leave us alone.
Those who don't respect liberty or the sovereignty of their fellow man can not be trusted and can not be left to their own devices because while we sleep they are plotting and no matter how ridiculous and ugly their ideas are to the strong it is the fact they prey on the weak and the bitter and hopeless as serfs to their desires.
You do, do ya Ms. Laurel Elise Ava?
Tell me then, why during the Bush administration did they stand by and watch, and actually aid and abet, tens of millions of people, and God knows what else, to enter the U.S. illegally, during war time?
Progressives don’t merely want to destroy the constitution. They want to destroy all of our hallowed institutions: the military, Judeo-Christian morality, the traditional family, our culture and national identity.
How the hell did Romney come in second? The man is a certifiable ass. He needs to quit his political career and start promoting Just for Men.
You have to give Paul credit. He was able to get everyone who voted for him in 2008 into one room to vote for him in the CPAC Straw Poll. Impressive.
So...somebody start a thread here....
make a list of true Conservatives....
and a list of Big Govt. Republican Rats....
Tom Trancredo= True Conservative
Sarah Palin= True Conservative
Ann Coulter= True Conservative
Tom McClintock= True Conservative
etc. etc. etc.
Mitt Romney= Big Govt. Rat
John McCain= Big Govt Rat
Lindsay Graham= Big Govt Rat
There are a lot more but they voted for Obama in the general. They don’t want to hear all this talk about cutting taxes and personal responsibility; they just wanted to gut the military.
The Bush administration at least listened when we stopped them on Immigration. Obama has undone most of what we accomplished with his election. Immigration enforcement has fallen precipitously and no one has noticed.
What happens with CPAC is a bunch of people truck in their supporters. Sarah would’ve did much better if she had been there most of her supporters aren’t CPAC types.
What is a Laurel Elise Ava?
LOL!
You'd have better luck convincing me that IRS employees are sponsoring tea party events.
Its no surprise. Last summer I joined a conservative social networking group. Ron Paul people have spammed it into almost nothingness. First wave came in preaching founding principles. You know, things like “separation of church and state” which aren’t in the constitution. We fought that off. Then came a wave hollering about “neocons” and the war. They just hammer and hammer until people walk away.
LOL!
You'd have better luck convincing me that IRS employees are sponsoring tea party events.
"See you at the bill signing" wasn't listening. It was his arrogant way of saying he's going full steam ahead with amnesty in spite of the fact that most Americans (including his conservative base) said they did not want it.
CPAC is overrun with doe-eyed, altruistic college kids who eat the spoon-fed rhetoric. Mitt’s slickness is close to Clintons, and has the charm and appeal the kids like. I was saddened to see Newt rank as high as he did, too.
My friend from the south has a good memory.
Thank you.
Getting very discouraged as a Conservative out here. Where are our Conservative leaders?? Do we have any??
We desperately NEED a Conservartive party? Who is going to step up and form it?
Conservartive = Conservative - dang
We have them but we have few that are independently wealthy or the charisma and sadly that seems to be the primary criteria at least for the Republican party today.
“How the hell did Romney come in second?”
Because he lost to Ron Paul. Otherwise he’d be first.
Great humor
That’s because only about 25% of the attendees voted in the poll, and Ron Paul’s followers are such die-hards that they make sure they vote and in numbers.
Mitt Romney second.
At a conservative convention.
Me:
They really want us to stay home. Sick ba$tards.
The Paul followers are militant and organized and they are now labeling themselves “tea party” to gain support.
There are signs they are running in GOP primaries this year.
The Paulistas need to be watched carefully and we need to find them in primary races this year so we don’t vote for them.
They act like left-wingers because Paul’s ranks are filled with them.
Just over 2000 of the 10,000 attending votes. Reminds me of our normal elections. Could not be bothered, then pitches a fit at the outcome. Vote dummies. Every vote counts. But if you attended the first part and left, you missed the opportunity to vote. Almost the reverse of same day registration. All end with flawed results.
Beck should get a gold medal for outing Ron Paul 'toofer' loon, Medina.
This idea that Beck (or anybody else) sabotaged Medina is absurd. If you can’t answer “did the govt have anything to do with the 9/11 attacks?” you're not be fit to run for dogcatcher.
For God's sake, has anybody really looked into her platform- her background? Has this woman even been vetted?
She wants legalized drugs.
She backs gay marriage.
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She has not spoken to her elderly parents for YEARS. They had to find out she was runing for governor of Texas by reading the newspaper!
http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/medina-hailing-from-beeville-learned-political-skills-on-229907.html?srcTrk=RTR_95609 What does this say about this woman's character? And rumors are begin to surface about husband Noe's past associations.
Take a look at some of the statements she has made: "It’s a shame isn’t it, that Republicans continue to ignore Hispanics especially here in Texas?’
"Who is going to think more about Latino families? Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison or me, who has a Latino family?”
"Being married, however, to someone with a Mexican American heritage, I certainly embrace the culture.”
"I believe we too often get into race when it’s immaterial.” (Obummer, is that you?)
I don't believe for one minute Medina's propaganda about wanting to strengthen the border!
La Raza probably has her in their back pocket!
Glenn Beck has once again helped the tea-party stay in the Republican mainstreamby by weeding out dangerous fringe thinkers like Medina.
Medina is NOT representative of the Tea Party movement. She USED them- latched herself on to them. She’s a hard core Libertarian who has realized that the Libertarian Party will never win anything and that the only possible way to get herself into office is to do what Ron Paul did and wrap herself in the Republican cloak in hopes that it will fool enough of the voters enough of the time. Thank God Glen Beck outed her in time.
Retrieve your sombrero from the ring and go home Senora Medina. You're Texas toast. .
Yes, I and sure hope all other Texans see Medina for what she is. I doubt that you have to worry though...
As to all the critics of the Ron Paul straw poll - Well, you are right and wrong. He has said and supported many ideas that conservatives have supported. He also has some really strange ideas that do NOT jive. Let’s just say that too many are so disenfranchised with both parties that they support an alien like Paul. It is just about getting that bad.
If you put Ron Paul up against Obama - Ron Paul in a minute. That does not mean that he is the best candidate, but just that almost anyone would be better than another 4 years of Obama!
Good news that...The Paulistas remind me of the Perotistas...same goal also.
Don’t worry - that strategy will be tried but won’t work this time.
“The Paul followers are militant and organized and they are now labeling themselves “tea party” to gain support.”
Yes, and I’ve even seen an article by Chuck Baldwin (tinfoil alert) claiming that the initial “Ron Paul Revolution” was the real origin of the Tea Parties. They are no better than leftists— political opportunists with no moral core and no real concept of conservatism. Heck, if Obama promised to provide free marijuana as part of ObamaCare, he’d have the Paulbots voting in lockstep!
“If you put Ron Paul up against Obama - Ron Paul in a minute. That does not mean that he is the best candidate, but just that almost anyone would be better than another 4 years of Obama!”
Sounds a lot like the “anyone but Bush” rhetoric that got us Obama in the first place.
Heh...not it is just that Obama is that bad! Really, I don’t support Ron Paul but he does have some legitimate points. He is just a bit of a kook but what the hey, he also has some things that conservatives should support (if you ignore his crazy rantings)... It’s really okay to understand and adopt some of his ideas without endorsing the person.
I don't go as far as Paul in his libertarianism, but he's damn right on a lot of issues.
I don't go as far as Paul in his libertarianism, but he's damn right on a lot of issues.
I had this problem arguing with RedState... It is not okay to ban all Ron Paul supporters because he and they are a bit crazy. He does have some legitimate ideas as long as you lift the reasonable ones from his rantings. Yes, he is a strange fellow and could never be elected by the majority (and I would thankfully agree). Don’t just ignore the results though as they (CPAC) as least sees the benefit of some of his ideas. He has a conservative (or youthful and unknowing group) following for a reason.
There are also strong signs the Paulies plan to challenge local party leadership this year and 2012 to seize control of the party’s at county level.
They have been packing their people in low level local positions to cast votes for the Paulista challenger to party leadership.
That is another reason they never miss a chance to diss the GOP, to weaken it to the point they easily wrest control of it.
Sad thing they don’t realize is that the Libertarian message has not caught on in 40 years. Hanging an ‘R’ behind it will not cause people to embrace it.
It will end up giving us decades of Democrat control.
Yes, we must watch them closley and oust them where we can.
It’s called Democracy or representation by the Republic. If that happens, then it is because they prevail. Now while I might disagree with the result, it is what should happen! Just how can you disagree with that?
CPAC is overrun with doe-eyed, altruistic college kids who eat the spoon-fed rhetoric.
This is good news, indeed. Spoon fed a little Glenn Beck quickly changes the doe-eyed into deer in the headlights.
Unfortunately, the CPAC voting process resembles a Chicago polling place near a large cemetary. Under those conditions, the Paulbots stuffing a ballot boxes doesn't qualify breaking news. Paulbots regularly spam poll after poll.
And who could forget how the Paulbots and Hucksters rigged the West Virginia Republican primary caucus during the lunch recess.
Cheers,
OLA
CPAC is infested with sodomite and leftist participants, for crying out loud. What can we believe from this group?
I believe it’s the author of this article.
Yes, the polling resembled Chicago - they had to actually request a ballot and stand in line to vote... heh. Hmmm, not quite like Chicago, no dead people voting, no crazy hoodlums standing outside with truncheons, and no Rahm... Not quite Chicago I would say... You are right of course that it was voluntary and that made Ron Paul the favorite of those that were determined to vote him in (Seems that the younger generation has more perseverance).
Of course, you realize that this has no real bearing on who or how the actual election happens... Seems that the favorite of CPAC has a minimal chance of election if you go by past history.
Wow...what a pessimist!
lol. excellent visual and fitting considering you point.
When underhanded tactics are used, such as disrupting Central Committee Meetings to embarrass leadership over trivial matters, I disagree with it.
When they discuss and announce how to infiltrate the party, act like a Republican and use the party resources, while ensuring they give nothing back to the party, I disagree with it.
When they demand one of their candidates be supported by the party, yet openly oppose other party candidates, I disagree with it.
That is neither “Democracy” nor “representation by the Republic.”
Well, that happens all the time - Democrats infiltrating the Republican convention, and all aspect of them. What you are angry about (and me also) is that the immoral aspects of the parties. while I can understand your anger with their actions, it is not illegal (just immoral) and it is a part of our Democracy. Really, if they can dissuade us from our platform or beliefs, we or the Republicans should not be there anyway.
It really does get down to beliefs - if any of their tactics prevail, we are lost anyway - aren’t we?
Do you want to just withdraw from fighting terrorists and allow them here before fighting them again, when we will have no allies?
Do you want to follow the folly of “audit and end the fed” with no regard for why it was created, which will hand manipulation of the economy back to the majority party?
Or, do you not realize it is already audited independently every year?
As far as “the immorality of the party’s,” you do not cure immorality by acting immorally.
How you claim the party’s are immoral, then justify their actions as not illegal, just immoral befuddles me.
Are we lost anyways? No. There are many true conservatives fighting the RINO’s, the Paulies, the Gay Agenda, you name it.
Somehow, I also get the feeling you support their takeover more than you let on.
Heh...no, I disagree with all of his national security ideas. I do agree with some of his economic ideas though and wish that the next President would eliminate many Federal government offices along with their budgets. I also think that the Fed need some control... I guess that makes me a Ron Paul kook...heh.
Look, he is crazy in some areas, but would love to see him get into office and pass a flat tax, eliminate overseas bribery, eliminate about 10 offices of government (ED, HUD, Energy, NPR, Art Subsidies, etc.). He does have some good ideas... I would just love to see the Democrats faces when this was proposed!
Oh, and if you really think that the Fed is audited, you need to get more information...
You brought up so many issues that I could not begin to address them all in one post...
Parties immoral? You better believe it - both parties are immoral to the max. Both only want to win re-election, give a damn about the country, much less the people. You are blind to reality if you do not see that we do NOT have statesmen today, only those that want to get re-elected. It is all about money and power!
I look at both parties and see only one or two that seem to give a damn about the direction of the country. Even they will NOT bring up the coming economic catastrophe that is heading our way and actually push for a resolution. So, yes, both parties are not only immoral, but absolutely selfish and give-a-damn about the direction the country is heading. That is what I am pessimistic about!
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