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Conservatives cheer Medina's message in Fort Worth
Star Telegram ^ | 2/20/10 | Anna Tinsley

Posted on 02/20/2010 9:59:07 PM PST by pissant

FORT WORTH -- Marvin Bahnman doesn't like where the country is headed.

He believes in small government, fiscal responsibility and conservatism.

So he carried a sign that said "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote them out" outside the Cowtown Coliseum in the Stockyards, where a get-out-the-vote rally Saturday drew supporters of the Tea Party and 912 Fort Worth grassroots movements.

"I'm not a Republican," said Bahnman, 74, of Fort Worth. "I am a conservative."

Inside the coliseum, decorated with candidate signs, flags and balloons, dozens of candidates on the March 2 Republican primary ballot spoke to hundreds gathered there.

For many, Saturday was a chance to hear from some candidates who feel the way they do -- tired of big government and career politicians.

"I'm concerned about the direction the country is going with freedoms, spending and big government," said Daniel Esparza, 45, of Fort Worth. "We need people who will bring us back to following the Constitution."

Former Secretary of State Roger Williams kicked off the rally, hosted by the United Conservative Coalition of Texas, which represents the Tea Party, 912 and other conservative groups in North Texas.

(Excerpt) Read more at star-telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: governorgoodhair; medina; paulestinians; perry; texas; troofers; truthers
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GO Debra. The RINOs have done enough damage
1 posted on 02/20/2010 9:59:07 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

real conservatives don’t believe in truthers with zero experience.


2 posted on 02/20/2010 10:01:28 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

SHe ain’t a truther, and zero experience is preferable to RINO-itis.

Dump the RINOS


3 posted on 02/20/2010 10:03:56 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ari-freedom

Kind of like that guy Bush when he ran for governor?


4 posted on 02/20/2010 10:05:05 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Petroleum, oil, lubricants. Add liquid oxygen. What could go wrong?)
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To: pissant

Dump the RINOS

that’s why KBH won’t win, either.


5 posted on 02/20/2010 10:19:29 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom

Perry is Charlie Crist in cowboy boots.


6 posted on 02/20/2010 10:20:50 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

He’s still better than Hutchison or the Troofer.


7 posted on 02/20/2010 10:21:37 PM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: pissant

Were they cheering her “message” that no cops died on 9/11 and therefore it was an inside job?


8 posted on 02/20/2010 10:22:50 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Ingtar

IF th etroofer was one, you could make that argument if you wanted. Since she ain’t, you are just slurping for Vaccine Rick


9 posted on 02/20/2010 10:22:55 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Professional Engineer

“Kind of like that guy Bush when he ran for governor?”

Yeah, but the inexperienced Bush, shortly after becoming Prez, was capable of arranging, with his co-conspirators, the attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11. Amazing what an inexperienced person is able to accomplish. And the inexperienced Medina is fully capable, in spite of her lack of experience,with true clairvoyance, to see the “truth” of what really happened on 9/11; that our gov’t, the Bush Admin, was behind it all.


10 posted on 02/20/2010 10:23:05 PM PST by flaglady47 (Dems days are numbered; it's Tea Party Time.....)
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To: xjcsa

Could be, since she never claimed that, unlike the media reported and could be just another bunch of misinformed Perry slurpers.


11 posted on 02/20/2010 10:24:07 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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This idea that Beck (or anybody else) sabotaged Medina is absurd. If you can’t answer “did the govt have anything to do with the 9/11 attacks?” you're not be fit to run for dogcatcher.

For God's sake, has anybody really looked into her platform- her background? Has this woman even been vetted?

She wants legalized drugs.

She backs gay marriage.

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She has not spoken to her elderly parents for YEARS. They had to find out she was runing for governor of Texas by reading the newspaper!

http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/medina-hailing-from-beeville-learned-political-skills-on-229907.html?srcTrk=RTR_95609 What does this say about this woman's character? And rumors are begin to surface about husband Noe's past associations.

Take a look at some of the statements she has made: "It’s a shame isn’t it, that Republicans continue to ignore Hispanics especially here in Texas?’

"Who is going to think more about Latino families? Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison or me, who has a Latino family?”

"Being married, however, to someone with a Mexican American heritage, I certainly embrace the culture.”

"I believe we too often get into race when it’s immaterial.” (Obummer, is that you?)

I don't believe for one minute Medina's propaganda about wanting to strengthen the border!

La Raza probably has her in their back pocket!

Glenn Beck has once again helped the tea-party stay in the Republican mainstreamby by weeding out dangerous fringe thinkers like Medina.

Medina is NOT representative of the Tea Party movement. She USED them- latched herself on to them. She’s a hard core Libertarian who has realized that the Libertarian Party will never win anything and that the only possible way to get herself into office is to do what Ron Paul did and wrap herself in the Republican cloak in hopes that it will fool enough of the voters enough of the time. Thank God Glen Beck outed her in time.

Retrieve your sombrero from the ring and go home Senora Medina. You're Texas toast. . .

At 3:30 medina says why no police killed 9 11 http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/politics&id=7274692 ______________________________________________

12 posted on 02/20/2010 10:26:13 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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13 posted on 02/20/2010 10:26:59 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: pissant

“I don’t have all the evidence there, Glenn,” Medina replied. “So I’m not in a place – I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There’s some very good arguments and I think the American people have not seen all the evidence there so I’ve not taken a position there.”

He then asked if she would disavow people on her campaign team that held such a theory.

“I’m certainly not into mind control or thought policing people,” Medina said. “I don’t see us having a team of radical individuals, if you will

“The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered by so clearly taking their direction from special interests instead of the people … “

If this woman is running as a Republican for governor of one of the reddest of the Red States, by what logic does she figure sympathy for the Truther movement helps her win votes?


14 posted on 02/20/2010 10:32:18 PM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: pissant

My wife and I are still voting for Debra, but, I live in Texas (don’t know what State you’re in) and she lost a whole heck of a lot of support over that 42 second gaffe in the Glenn Beck interview. Had it not been for that, she’d have a great shot at being our next Guv.

The Upside: If she wins, a whole lot of atheists will start believing that there really might be a God.


15 posted on 02/20/2010 10:41:23 PM PST by no dems (If you think Obama is a better President than Sarah Palin would be, lay down the crack pipe.)
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To: ari-freedom
Hutchinson = RINO / should stay in DC where she fits in better.
Perry = Eminent domain abuse, no term limit supporter that's stayed on past his prime........ Perry is a power institution not unlike the Kennedy's in MA when it comes to TX..... Perry is the perfect argument for why you should have term limits!

She might be a great choice if only she had a track record and something substantial that shows and demonstrates a consistent conservative behavior. Unknown quantity = risk

16 posted on 02/20/2010 10:42:49 PM PST by Red6
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To: pissant
Well, I liked her, but, I heard the interview. As soon as she said that I said: "CRAP! Send all the campaign workers home and close the campaign offices. Turn out the lights; the party's over."
17 posted on 02/20/2010 10:44:46 PM PST by no dems (If you think Obama is a better President than Sarah Palin would be, lay down the crack pipe.)
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To: Red6; All

I cannot believe that this is the only 3 we have to choose from in the GOP Primary. Medina would have won but she blew it.


18 posted on 02/20/2010 10:45:44 PM PST by no dems (If you think Obama is a better President than Sarah Palin would be, lay down the crack pipe.)
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To: patriot08

Is this a joke or is that a real banner?


19 posted on 02/20/2010 10:46:50 PM PST by no dems (If you think Obama is a better President than Sarah Palin would be, lay down the crack pipe.)
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To: pissant

as i understand it ...she is wishy washy about believing the 911 conspiracy theory...


20 posted on 02/20/2010 10:47:29 PM PST by dalebert
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To: patriot08
You sound like all those that attacked McCain and cheered for Obama in 2008.

You might want to filter out the nonsense and not only copy and paste the talking points of the side you support.

21 posted on 02/20/2010 10:49:32 PM PST by Red6
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To: ari-freedom

i saw kays nasty tv ad...made me think of dirty dems


22 posted on 02/20/2010 10:49:58 PM PST by dalebert
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To: patriot08

"I may just be a goofy old guitar player, but even I know better than to go for a La Raza Truther!"

23 posted on 02/20/2010 10:53:10 PM PST by Hugin (Remember the first rule of gunfighting...have a gun..-- Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: no dems
I think she's probably the most “truthful conservatives” of the three, but the least politically savvy and her inexperience on the stage, TV, radio etc. caused her to screw up. From what I can see (My own analysis, not what I'm told to think about things), she was being cautious when asked a question by Beck, which could be interpreted as her endorsing or siding with a certain view.

Her big problems are inexperience and the fact that she's such an unknown quantity. It's hard to read someone like this because they can recreate themselves as Obama did (positive), Kerry attempted (failed), and Palin was (negative). The unknown types like Palin can often get crushed as easily and quickly as Obama was recreated as some moderate....... because if your opponent can shape the perception people have of you, well that sort of sucks.

24 posted on 02/20/2010 11:01:39 PM PST by Red6
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To: Ingtar

Her assertion that she doesn’t have an opinion because it’s not a state issue is outrageous. Like any thinking American can have no opinion about 3,000 fellow citizens being murdered on American soil 8 years after the fact?

Either she is a truther and doesn’t want to admit it, or she isn’t and didn’t want to alienate her truther nutjob base. Either way she is unfit for office.


25 posted on 02/20/2010 11:03:13 PM PST by Hugin (Remember the first rule of gunfighting...have a gun..-- Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: Red6

Medina proved that she was not truthful on Beck’s show and that she doesn’t have a good grasp on reality when she started claiming that she was attacked by her “opposition,” and then went off the deep end by giving us her theories about 9-11.

Watch the second video, here:

http://www.bigjolly.com/sections/texas/274-debra-medina-on-nyc-fire-and-police-casualties.html


26 posted on 02/20/2010 11:10:10 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: pissant

27 posted on 02/20/2010 11:29:44 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Hugin

I completely agree.


28 posted on 02/20/2010 11:30:30 PM PST by Ingtar (I closed my eyes, only for a moment, and the moment's gone...)
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To: hocndoc
You don't think that she's being politically attacked?

What theories of 9-11 is she advocating other than that there are people that have questions out there? Is she wrong? There are people out there that are conservative, independent and liberal with questions. It's a snowball effect where she's now on the defensive about something that is perceptive and the more she talks the more she puts herself in a corner. She's doesn't pretend to be an expert on 9-11 and if you ask “why” long enough you get answers that sound like this, especially from someone who's inexperienced. This is no different than asking Palin what the Bush Doctrine was. Or asking Bush what the capital of Denmark is. She shouldn't even have gone down that road.

Well, we don't need to worry about it, she's crushed. Besides, in the good ole boy club we call the Republican Party folks like her and Palin don't have much of a chance against the McCains and Perry's who are established, networked, power brokers within the party and paid their dews. Enjoy-

29 posted on 02/20/2010 11:32:31 PM PST by Red6
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I’m concerned about the La Raza thing.

If Medina has made promises to them, I’m done..the end.

I’m searching the web trying to find a anything, haven’t so far.


30 posted on 02/20/2010 11:36:56 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Hugin
Are there questions surrounding the bombing of Pearl harbor?

Are there questions around if we needed to drop a A-bomb on Japan?

Are there questions surrounding the assassination of JFK?

Are there questions surrounding our actions at GITMO?

It doesn't matter where you stand, the answer is yes, some people have questions on certain aspects of every one of these and there are people an all sides of the political fence that have at least in their mind questions about 9-11. She's actually pointing out the obvious, and that doesn't make her support or personally believe in something. There are people who question the motive for the Iraq war.......... Your reasoning is something from a Monty Python video. Maybe she's a witch too?

***Her fault is that she made a comment that is in reality a "matter of fact." People have questions. She attempted to be neutral and non offensive in that statement, not alienating those that do have questions. Then, when asked about the details, she begins to babble and digs a hole because she's not an expert on this nor prepared for every twist and turn that the questions will take her. -IMHO

31 posted on 02/20/2010 11:48:15 PM PST by Red6
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To: Irenic

I still haven’t found any La Raza connections to Medina.

I found this:
A fierce opponent of federal gun laws, Medina packs a Springfield 9 mm handgun in a zippered case in her car. She believes landowners along the Texas-Mexico border have the right to arm themselves against unauthorized immigrants and wants to post the Texas National Guard there.
http://www.sacultura.com/Medina_may_be_spoiler_in_GOP_race.html?c=y&viewAllComments=y

It’s a hispanic paper, it doesn’t seem like it’s a statement that would draw La Raza types.


32 posted on 02/20/2010 11:54:49 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Professional Engineer
Kind of like that guy Bush when he ran for governor?

Ouch.

33 posted on 02/20/2010 11:55:08 PM PST by FTJM
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To: no dems

she lost a whole heck of a lot of support over that 42 second gaffe in the Glenn Beck interview.
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I didnt see the interview, nor do i live in Texas, but i have read your posts and know you are a reasonable poster.

So, is she a truther or did she just mess up in the interview?


34 posted on 02/21/2010 12:02:38 AM PST by Canedawg (FUBO! Just FUBO.)
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To: Irenic

She keeps a gun in a bag in her car and does not have a CCL to carry one on her person?


35 posted on 02/21/2010 12:03:25 AM PST by ansel12 ( (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.))
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To: pissant

36 posted on 02/21/2010 12:07:07 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: dalebert
i saw kays nasty tv ad...made me think of dirty dems

Her ads are very....Washington DC Democrat.

KBH makes my skin crawl.

37 posted on 02/21/2010 12:10:25 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: pissant

pissant, truther or not; she is not qualified by a long shot. She wants the prize without doing any of the hard work.

Btw, why is she still running? :)


38 posted on 02/21/2010 12:11:09 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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I do see that KBH has attended a La Raza convention 2003
in Austin.
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Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and Gov. Howard Dean spoke at the convention, and I can imagine that they had slightly different messages, to say the least:

“Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, also addressed the crowd, saying President Bush’s tax cuts and his education initiative, No Child Left Behind, will increase accountability of public schools. That in turn will help Latino students, she said.”
http://www.burntorangereport.com/mt/archives/2003/07/la_raza_in_texa.html
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I still haven’t connected Medina to La Raza or see where La Raza says they are backing her. Still searching tho...


39 posted on 02/21/2010 12:31:01 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Irenic

I was wondering, even if you don’t like Medina, hate her even—is it fair to post the La Raza stuff without backing up that claim?

It seems a bit libelous to me.

I just want to know one way or another if she is truly connected to La Raza.

She already screwed up her campaign, why add un-backed claims to the heap?

I absolutely can’t vote for Medina if she’s truly connected to La Raza.


40 posted on 02/21/2010 12:40:22 AM PST by Irenic
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To: patriot08

Post 40 is to you, I’m curious about your claim as well, can you support it?


41 posted on 02/21/2010 1:05:55 AM PST by ansel12 ( (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.))
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To: Irenic

I saw something a while back on the La Raza thing which she said or was it on one of the videos??? Darn can’t remember. But she does favor Latinos and is hard seeking their votes.

I’ll try and find where I saw that...or heard it...but this thread is not the first place it’s been noted.


42 posted on 02/21/2010 1:06:42 AM PST by caww
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To: Pantera; TWfromTEXAS; BoringGuy; Richard Kimball; girlscout; omegabea; Warrior_Queen; erkyl; ...
Ping

Freepmail me or ping me from the original thread to get on/off the 2010 Texas Governor's Race ping list.

43 posted on 02/21/2010 1:10:17 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: pissant

Pisser...for someone who lives in Washington you sure have lot’s of interest in our politics here in Texas. It would seem you have more than you can say grace over cleaning up the socialist mess in your home state...while you’re at it why don’t you take Medina out there to help you!


44 posted on 02/21/2010 1:33:14 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: caww

I think they’re all hard seeking the Latino vote, that’s ok with me, if people are LEGAL.

Perry says:Hispanic Texans will compose the largest demographic group in our state by 2020
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/13760/

La Raza is a radical, hateful, bunch of azzholes.

Medina is a Ron Paul fan, right?

Trying to find a Medina La Raza connection I ran across a couple of Ron Paul pages, I don’t know which might be his or just a Ron Paul fan-site sorta deal.

Anyhow, they don’t seem to like La Raza much at all, seems if Medina is a Ron Paul fan, she wouldn’t either.

I’m still trying to find firm proof that she’s a La Raza clown.

I really starting to doubt she is.


45 posted on 02/21/2010 1:33:39 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Red6

Beck didn’t ask her if she had “any questions”. He asked, “Here then let me be more frank and ask you the question: Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?”. You can have a ton of questions about 911, about various mistakes made, etc., but if you can’t answer that question with a straight up “No”, you are either a nutter, or pandering to nutters, and disqualified from office, IMHO.


46 posted on 02/21/2010 1:55:49 AM PST by Hugin (Remember the first rule of gunfighting...have a gun..-- Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: pissant

Wow.. I actually agree with pissant.. Mark this down.

The Palin/Perry mindless robots will be out in full force carrying on about Medina’s experience but they’ll support The Quitter to be President.

Medina is right. The government should ALWAYS be asked questions about EVERYTHING. They should fear us. It doesn’t matter who is in office.


47 posted on 02/21/2010 2:57:56 AM PST by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Ingtar

Yea, and you support The Quitter.

Your point?


48 posted on 02/21/2010 2:58:45 AM PST by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Canedawg

She gaffed the interview. She’s absolutely not a truther. Her point was that public should always be asking questions of our government.


49 posted on 02/21/2010 3:00:51 AM PST by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Red6

Of course she’s wrong about the NYPD policemen who “got out” when the firemen didn’t. Watch the press conference video in that last link. *She* gave too much information.

As she gave too much information during the original interview when she went off on the mind control/psychological testing tangent. Beck kept trying to stop her with his, “You’ve answered the question, Debra.” She just kept on trying to prove she was right and he was wrong - but used a bizarre reasoning about *why* he was wrong.

The “mind control” comment was telling. And the next day at the press conference, she told the interviewers that other people were trying to make *her* look crazy. She thinks in those terms: that people try to control the thoughts of others. She believes that people think its “crazy” to have doubts about 9-11, that the information that has been given to the public is “mind control.”

Her reaction and comments both times don’t indicate defensive political naivete. I see bull-headed irritation, especially with the accusation that Beck expected “mind control” and “psychological testing.” She was defensive only in the attempt to prove that she was right and *in* the right. What she proved was that she did, indeed, have “a position on that,” and was lying when she said she didn’t.

And, no, I don’t think she was being attacked by political enemies when Beck asked her about the 9-11 truthers. I heard the whole Beck show from her interview, on. He was surprised by her answer/non-answer. He said he expected an easy dismissal.

I do know she was interviewed several times by Alex Jones, and that he had endorsed her a couple of days earlier. http://economycollapse.blogspot.com/


50 posted on 02/21/2010 3:53:39 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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