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Education secretary sees many teacher layoffs
Reuters ^

Posted on 02/21/2010 4:52:56 PM PST by preamble

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Many teachers and educators across the United States are at risk of losing their jobs in the next few months, the country's education secretary told a meeting of the National Governors Association on Sunday.

"I am very, very concerned about layoffs going into the next school year starting in September. Good superintendents are going to start sending out pink slips in March and April, like a month from now, as they start to plan for their budgets," said Arne Duncan, referring to the slips of paper included in some paychecks to notify a person of being fired.

As tax revenues in most states continue to plummet because of weak economies, states and cities are considering cutting education to keep

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: education; educationfunding; layoffs; nea
I am watching this dude Arne Duncan on CSPAN right now at the Governor's conference. What a bs thrower. No wonder he's tight with Barack Obama's --buddy from Chicago.

Get ready for the Education Bailout! I don't get states having to apply for Race to the Top grants. That siphons off energy and time to get our own money back!!

1 posted on 02/21/2010 4:52:56 PM PST by preamble
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To: preamble

Translation:

“We need to bail out another union that has failed (the NEA).”


2 posted on 02/21/2010 4:55:35 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: preamble

How bout we reduce the pay of Supers, mgment and lay off around 25% to begin with. Course fewer edoctrinators would be a good thing.

Pray for America’s Freedom


3 posted on 02/21/2010 4:57:57 PM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: preamble

This is gonna put a dent in Obama’s “hope and change” BS.


4 posted on 02/21/2010 4:58:01 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: preamble

Pension costs are a large part of the reason for the layoffs. The problem will only get worse.


5 posted on 02/21/2010 4:58:19 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I could give a rat ass about teachers and teachers unions. I live in New Jersey and the bloody NJEA has had a strangle-hold on the taxpayers of this state for years. Who the hell are teachers that they can’t be out of a job?


6 posted on 02/21/2010 5:00:34 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: preamble

Tell him to get with Jack Squat and utilize some of that 2/3rds unspent Stimulus money......=.=


7 posted on 02/21/2010 5:00:39 PM PST by cranked
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To: preamble

Ever notice how they never seem to talk about laying off administrators and other bureaucrats?


8 posted on 02/21/2010 5:02:00 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (California -- Ya es como Mexico)
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To: preamble
Good superintendents are going to start sending out pink slips in March and April, like a month from now, as they start to plan for their budgets," said Arne Duncan, referring to the slips of paper included in some paychecks to notify a person of being fired.

Glad they clarified that for me.

9 posted on 02/21/2010 5:03:34 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: preamble

Didn’t DumBO just save all these jobs?


10 posted on 02/21/2010 5:03:51 PM PST by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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To: John-Irish

I couldn’t agree more.

Tenure should be banned. No tax money to teachers’ unions. They’re all collectivist/Marxist in nature.

Support vouchers so that there is a double hit, once when the taxpayer’s take their money away from their local school and again when they put it into an alternative school that is successful.


11 posted on 02/21/2010 5:10:57 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Why don’t we just close the NEA and turn education over to the states.


12 posted on 02/21/2010 5:13:09 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: preamble

Still lots of stimulus money to flow into this before November.


13 posted on 02/21/2010 5:16:01 PM PST by Carlrob
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To: John-Irish

With a rat legislature, how do you rate Christie’s chances to neuter the NJ public employee unions?


14 posted on 02/21/2010 5:17:24 PM PST by Jacquerie (There is food value in beer. There is no beer value in food.)
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To: preamble

Keep the teachers.

Let the “educators” freeze to death in the dark after we fire their stupid Obama-sses.


15 posted on 02/21/2010 5:18:01 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ncpatriot
The NEA should be called the DNEA where the D stands for democrat.
They've destroyed education in this country.
16 posted on 02/21/2010 5:20:38 PM PST by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
They’re all collectivist/Marxist in nature.
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Exactly! You are one of the few that “get it”!

Simply by attending children learn that the government has the power to do two things:

1) Take money from their neighbor to pay for a service their parents want tuition-free. And...Their progressive teachers ( from the very beginning in the mid-1800s) have taught several generations of voters that it is their “right” to have this “free” service.

2) Treat people ( students) who have committed no crime like they were prisoners. Children learn that the government has the police power to strip them ( and indirectly their parents) of EVERY First Amendment Right! Our government schools are like prisons. There is no right to free speech, press, exercise of religion, or freedom to assemble with people of the parents’ and children's choosing. And...The government establishes a godless worldview every minute of every school day!

So?...After a mere 3 generations of government indoctrinated children we had the beginnings of the “progressive” fascist state:

***The IRS
***the federal reserve
*** direct election of Senators
*** Unions
*** feminist movement
*** the failed League of Nations followed by the abominable U.N.
*** FDR and his New Deal elected four times
*** Johson’s Great Society
*** the abolishment of the gold standard
*** and a thousand socialist programs and agencies

All of the above is due to my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents being made to feel completely comfortable with taking their neighbor's money by attending socialist modeled government schools!

Government schools have ****always**** been a progressive Utopian wet dream! The push has ***always** been toward increasing secularism followed by what is now pure atheistic Marxism. The Utopian progressives have ***always** been in control of teacher training and textbook development.

Government schools can NOT be fixed because they ARE SOCIALISM!!!! Socialism can not be fixed. It must be abolished.

And..Yes,...I am shouting. You are among the few conservatives who understand the problem. It is amazing how stooooopid other conservatives can be about this.
**

17 posted on 02/21/2010 5:24:46 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Bullish

Please read post #17.

Getting rid of the NEA will not fix government schools.

Government schools **are** socialism. Socialism can not be fixed.

Again....Please, read post #17.


18 posted on 02/21/2010 5:26:21 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: preamble

Abolish the Dept. of Education - there I said it and it needs to be done!


19 posted on 02/21/2010 5:26:54 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: Jacquerie

That is the big question. No doubt about it. In any other time and economy there would be little of any reason to change the system. However times are different and the great majority of Jerseyans aren’t in any mood for paying more property taxes for lavish teachers salaries and benefits and perks. I don’t know honestly Jacquerie, it’s still early but can tell you the unions in this state are going to just lie down over this, the bastards. Pardon a moi for saying so.


20 posted on 02/21/2010 5:27:38 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: ncpatriot

Why don’t we just close the NEA and turn education over to the states.
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Please read post #17. Government schools can not be fixed.


21 posted on 02/21/2010 5:28:59 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: preamble

Simple solution to all the education problems.

Eliminate the US Department of Education and return the $70 billion dollars back to the states to only be used for school vouchers. Taxpayers will reward educators that provide excellent education and eliminate those that do not.


22 posted on 02/21/2010 5:29:38 PM PST by anonsquared (TEA PARTY 2010 - THROW 'EM ALL IN THE HARBOR!)
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To: RushingWater

Abolish the Dept. of Education - there I said it and it needs to be done!
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While definitely a good idea it will not fix government education.

Please read post #17.


23 posted on 02/21/2010 5:29:54 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Thats somewhat of a tough sell in this state Marlowe, always has been, vouchers I mean. The bloody unions have been used to decades of feeding at the public trough and this is coming as a shock to them. But I don’t care. Unions aren’t some protected class—as least they didn’t use to be. I’m just sick and tired of them holding me and every other NJ taxpayer over a barrel. You’d have to wonder why a state this small needs so many bloody state workers and teachers.


24 posted on 02/21/2010 5:31:26 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: Jacquerie

Sorry, meant to say ‘’aren’t going to lie down over this’’


25 posted on 02/21/2010 5:34:09 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish
One of the key problems is how a teacher's pay skyrockets with seniority. This was posted on FR Friday and shows what teachers are making in NJ and PA,

In one NJ district a teacher with a M.A. and 33 years makes $106k while a rookie Spanish teacher with a B.A. makes $45k. That's more than double for doing the same job.

http://billlawrenceonline.com/

26 posted on 02/21/2010 5:38:31 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: preamble

Simple. Get rid of everyone but teachers. Problem solved.


27 posted on 02/21/2010 5:39:23 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: wintertime
Thanks, wintertime, for the breath of fresh air that is your post.

Too bad so many people don't get it.

In the meantime, children suffer and the future gets darker.

Sigh.

28 posted on 02/21/2010 5:43:41 PM PST by elk
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To: preamble
"Many teachers and educators across the United States are at risk of losing their jobs in the next few months, the country's education secretary told a meeting of the National Governors Association on Sunday."

Oh, wow, thanks for posting some good news!

29 posted on 02/21/2010 5:44:48 PM PST by elk
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To: preamble

sad to even have to say this again, but the federal govt has ZERO to say about the education of our kids.

Zilch, NADA, ZIP, Nothing.


30 posted on 02/21/2010 5:47:34 PM PST by bestintxas
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To: Seruzawa

Simple. Get rid of everyone but teachers. Problem solved.
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That will not fix the government schools. Please read post #17.

Government schools can not be fixed because they **are** socialism! Socialism can NOT be fixed.

Again please read post #17.


31 posted on 02/21/2010 5:47:56 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: bestintxas

sad to even have to say this again, but the federal govt has ZERO to say about the education of our kids.

Zilch, NADA, ZIP, Nothing.
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Please read post #17. Getting the federal government out of the education socialist business with not fix government schools.

Please read post #17.


32 posted on 02/21/2010 5:49:30 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: preamble
I wish...
33 posted on 02/21/2010 6:10:12 PM PST by JasonC
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To: ncpatriot

We’d need to destroy the state-level affiliates at each state level, too.

The best thing is to defund them and make them compete in the free market.


34 posted on 02/21/2010 6:22:01 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: John-Irish

You’re preaching to the choir.

I was born and raised in NJ and, yes, I studied Education and received my K-12 certificate to teach.

I didn’t, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.


35 posted on 02/21/2010 6:24:39 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: preamble

Why do we even have a department of education?
It is an unneeded unwanted drain of our money.
That also goes for the department of energy and and at least half of all the other agencies.
For that matter, why do we need so many armed federal police agencies? (FBI, DEA, ATF, DHS, CIA, NSA, etc.)? All this means is just unnecessary redundant and competing bureaucracy.


36 posted on 02/21/2010 6:30:18 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Despair disguised as Hope.)
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To: wintertime

Ah yes, I knew I’d find you on this thread. Spewing BS as usual. And as for the other “stupid” conservatives, most think like I do. Your spew is just that, spew.


37 posted on 02/21/2010 8:21:45 PM PST by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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