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In a doomsday cyber attack scenario, answers are unsettling
LA Times ^ | February 17, 2010 | Bob Drogin

Posted on 02/21/2010 9:10:03 PM PST by bamahead

What if a crippling attack struck the country's digital infrastructure? Experts including current and former officials tackle the question. The results show that the peril is real and growing.

The crisis began when college basketball fans downloaded a free March Madness application to their smart phones. The app hid spyware that stole passwords, intercepted e-mails and created havoc.

Soon 60 million cellphones were dead. The Internet crashed, finance and commerce collapsed, and most of the nation's electric grid went dark. White House aides discussed putting the Army in American cities.

"We're in uncharted territory here," was the most common refrain during a three-hour simulated crisis meeting of the National Security Council, the crux of the Cyber Shockwave exercise.

...SNIP...

The public rarely gets a peek at government war games. If Tuesday's no-cliche-left-behind version at times resembled a sci-fi thriller, no one doubts that the peril to telecommunications and other crucial computer-run systems is real and growing.

...SNIP...

In the end, no grand plan emerged, but the group did agree to advise the president to federalize the National Guard, even if governors objected, and deploy the troops -- perhaps backed by the U.S. military -- to guard power lines and prevent unrest.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cyberattack; cybersecurity; cyberwars; internet; lping; tech
According to the article, the panel was made up of such astute experts on cybersecurity as Joe Lockhart, and Jamie Gorelick...and the only to-do recommendation that came out of this waste of your taxpayer dollars was to federalize the National Guard.
1 posted on 02/21/2010 9:10:03 PM PST by bamahead
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
...the group did agree to advise the president to federalize the National Guard, even if governors objected...

Heard about this on the Kim Komando Show this evening.



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2 posted on 02/21/2010 9:12:12 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ShadowAce

Ping.


3 posted on 02/21/2010 9:13:37 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

Are you implying that this isn’t what any person elected president in the past (and next) 30 years would do? Disaster, war, bad hair day what have you are all excellent excuses to expand the federal government’s size and power. Looking forward to an actual attack by the Chinese that causes some draconian response which doesn’t actually help things. It is okay though I already take my shoes off before I send email...


4 posted on 02/21/2010 9:17:29 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: bamahead

This tactical scenario does NOT go far enough. I would have included a 9/11 style attack on the Empire State Building and an exploding fuel tanker in the Port of Houston, with a Cat 5 hurricane hitting NOLA again soon after.

Also going on would have been a bioterror attack against Israel and movements by N. Korea (shelling S. Korean positions). Also present are large Iranian backed attacks on US positions in Iraq.


5 posted on 02/21/2010 9:17:37 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

I think the boneheads in the White House now would jump at the chance to use such a crisis to do things they normally couldn’t do.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 9:21:17 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

Just finished reading “One Second After” today.....EMF nuke....THIS panel is pissing in the wind....what a joke.


7 posted on 02/21/2010 9:21:36 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: bamahead

The people that should be blamed for this is the cell phone industry.


8 posted on 02/21/2010 9:21:51 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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For allowing this “hole” to happen.


9 posted on 02/21/2010 9:22:57 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: goodnesswins

You mean EMP nuke? I keep hearing what a good book that is. ‘Alas Babylon’ has always been a favorite of mine...a chilling tale.


10 posted on 02/21/2010 9:25:12 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Thunder90
This tactical scenario does NOT go far enough. I would have included a 9/11 style attack on the Empire State Building and an exploding fuel tanker in the Port of Houston, with a Cat 5 hurricane hitting NOLA again soon after.

Also going on would have been a bioterror attack against Israel and movements by N. Korea (shelling S. Korean positions). Also present are large Iranian backed attacks on US positions in Iraq.


I think at that point, it would be time to break out the nukes from their silos.
Iran = parking lot. Same goes for North Korea and anyone else who thinks they can bring down the United States of America.
11 posted on 02/21/2010 9:26:52 PM PST by Deo volente (January 19, 2010...the Second American Revolution begins, right where it all started!)
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To: bamahead

**but the group did agree to advise the president to federalize the National Guard, even if governors objected**

If the phones are dead and power is out good luck mobilizing the National Guard. My unit has a hard enough time getting some people to show up for scheduled drill or contacting them through their phone numbers.


12 posted on 02/21/2010 9:30:41 PM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: bamahead

Excellent, but scary...as it lays out just what could (would) happen.....not a pretty picture.....prepare now.


13 posted on 02/21/2010 9:31:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: bamahead

If the national security maven and cyber-security expert “Jamie Gorelick” (can you hear the God like echo) is involve, fraud and destruction is planned by the political class to cripple United States social infrastructure.


14 posted on 02/21/2010 9:31:11 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: bamahead

Yeah, I head Kim on this the last couple days, was kinda surprised by her doom on this.

Good point about teaching all the grandmas and pas to learn to text.


15 posted on 02/21/2010 9:40:17 PM PST by txhurl
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To: bamahead
When the history of this era is finally Written, if there is not a special place in Hell for the likes of Jamie Gorelick, we will know there is no G-d.
16 posted on 02/21/2010 9:58:48 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: bamahead

I’d just let every country know up front, any cyber attack that causes major economic damage to the US gets disconnected from the Internet if it originated from their country. Any attack that can be traced back to the government of that country that results in major economic damage will be considered an act of war, just as a blockade is. Let’em suck on that.


17 posted on 02/21/2010 10:58:30 PM PST by DB
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To: bamahead
"...federalize the National Guard...perhaps backed by the U.S. military"

LOL! The Guard is already an integral part of the U.S. military. ...has been for a long time.

"...to guard power lines and prevent unrest."

...sounds exciting...not.

But a "doomsday cyber attack scenario" would probably be a precursor to an EMP burst outside of atmosphere, which would be followed by nuclear weapons exchanges. So it wouldn't be all that lame.

Aaaaaaa! Aaaaaaaaa! Run for your lives! The end is near! Flying saucers! Gastro-intestinal examinations by space aliens! Aaaaa! ;-)


18 posted on 02/21/2010 11:02:23 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Swiss
"If the phones are dead and power is out good luck mobilizing the National Guard. My unit has a hard enough time getting some people to show up for scheduled drill or contacting them through their phone numbers."

My unit for the first six years was all spit, polish and high speed. *Snap!* ...typical for combat platoons. But guarding power lines would be one ugly-boring guard mount. ...like guarding an empty quarry all night during initial training. ...more of a job for Buddhist monks or something, meditating on nothingness. ;-)


19 posted on 02/21/2010 11:12:34 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: familyop
Who are they kidding?

The combined National Guard could not begin to guard everything.

People have no concept as to what a hopeless task this would be.

I envision the National Guard being used to protect the elite political class and to hell with the rest of America. We would be completely on our own.

The entire system would completely break down within a couple of days and it would be dog-eat-dog.

20 posted on 02/22/2010 3:22:58 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (As Wichita falls so falls Wichita Falls)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

You’re right about the National Guard not having enough manpower to guard everything. And sadly, with politics as they are, you’re probably right about the rest. The Guard, besides doling out food supplies to civilians here and there, would be positioning combat units and support against any foreign military incursion in a broadly, unprecedentedly ugly scenario.

IMO, there are many personal preparations we can make for nationwide hard times. But one of the wisest would be finding out which neighbors we could get along with—neighbors who have also made preparations for emergencies and possess very calm demeanors (no pride or easy anger that could lead to hysterics). ...even if there are only one or two of ‘em in the whole neighborhood. Poor situations can be more exhausting than most people realize, and most of the exhaustion and other miseries in most neighborhoods won’t come from violence—at least not in most neighborhoods.

Thirst, hunger, injury, illness and exhaustion are much more prevalent in most such cases and places. The television folks do like to concentrate on places like Haiti, though.


21 posted on 02/22/2010 4:32:57 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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22 posted on 02/22/2010 5:20:36 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: bamahead

My God, it is Y2K all over again. And we all know what damage that did to the world.


23 posted on 02/22/2010 6:11:26 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: bamahead

I’m currently doing my thesis on cyber warfare, cyber retaliation, cyber aggression & cyber deterrence

The idiots on this panel obviously had done no research into these topics prior to the war game.

Wish they had taken the time to get some people who actually had some knowledge of computers, cyber security & cyber law.


24 posted on 02/22/2010 6:42:18 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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