Skip to comments.Citigroup Warns Customers It May Refuse To Allow Withdrawals (your money is not your money)
Posted on 02/22/2010 6:24:54 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
The image of banks locking their doors to keep customers from making withdrawals during a bank run is what immediately came to mind when we heard that Citigroup was telling customers it has the right to prevent any withdrawals from checking accounts for seven days.
"Effective April 1, 2010, we reserve the right to require (7) days advance notice before permitting a withdrawal from all checking accounts.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Bye Bye Citibank. There go ALL of your depositers.
are they programming the ATM’s to issue “IOU’s”?
Citi is citing a federal regulation - that would apply to all banks
Isn’t that what a checking account is for? After all, writing a check is making a withdrawal.
Let’s see, now...
The whole eight years that Bush was in office, he had 53 banks go belly-up.
In one year and 1 month, Obama has had 158 banks fail under his leadership. That is one bank shy of tripling Bush’s 8 year total.
So, yes. I would be VERY concerned about a bank that wants a 7 day notice to close out my account...
Update: Citibank has now released the following statement by way of explanation: "When Citibank moved to unlimited FDIC coverage in 2009, we had to reclassify many checking accounts to allow for immediate withdrawals in order to ensure all customers qualified for the additional coverage. When we moved back to standard FDIC coverage with most major banks in 2010, Citibank decided to reclassify those accounts back to make them eligible again for promotional incentives. To do so, Federal Reserve Reg D requires these accounts, called NOW accounts, to reserve the right to require a 7-day notice of withdrawal. We recently communicated this technical requirement to our customers. However, we have never exercised this right and have no plans to do so in the future."
I heard Mr. Potter is giving 50 cents on the dollar for Citigroup accounts, what are we waiting for.
SOB...wish I would of read this whole NON ISSUE before I sent it to everyone.
What is the problem? 7 days sounds reasonable to liquidate securities and get the cash from the Feds to pay depositors.
Every wonder just how much cash a bank has on location anymore? Very little. VERY LITTLE.
That will work fine till other banks stop accepting checks written on the no withdrawl accounts.
Thanks for the update.
So, who put the FDIC back in charge of Citibank, now?
Update: Citibank has now released the following statement by way of explanation: “When Citibank moved to unlimited FDIC coverage in 2009, we had to reclassify many checking accounts to allow for immediate withdrawals in order to ensure all customers qualified for the additional coverage. When we moved back to standard FDIC coverage with most major banks in 2010, Citibank decided to reclassify those accounts back to make them eligible again for promotional incentives. To do so, Federal Reserve Reg D requires these accounts, called NOW accounts, to reserve the right to require a 7-day notice of withdrawal. We recently communicated this technical requirement to our customers. However, we have never exercised this right and have no plans to do so in the future.”
Store your wealth in paid off real estate that generates positive cash flow, or in gold and silver.
Were those like money market checking accounts?
There are special rules for checking accounts that draw on investment-type accounts
So just give me the guards' two Glocks, let me take it out in trade on that cute little teller, and we'll call it even.
I prefer blued steel, brass and lead.
So glad I have no accounts with this horrible bank.
I have no idea, I haven’t been following this story. I just found the headline a little on the alarmist side.
It's not, it is printed on my Januaray statement.
Nobody else has apparently had this problem.
It’s just Citi being citi.
Januaray = January...more coffee please
It looks like Vikram Pandit, CEO of Citi, won’t be going on his honeymoon afterall. Hopefully Uncle Billy wont screw up again when making the deposit.
I wonder if this is supposed to prevent something like what happened in Sept. 2008 ($500B taken out in 2 hours).
“Daddy, every time a bell rings another bank gets bailed out.”
That’s really funny, because Citibank has been allowed by the Federal Reserve to go on claiming as “assets” mortgages whose underlying values have plummeted and the repayment of which is utterly speculative. And yet, the bank borrowed billions of dollars in taxpayer money using their phony-baloney valuations as collateral. And then they lend it back out to customers at usurious interest rates (29.9%), while charging them exorbitant fees for ATMs and every other damned thing. Now, they’re changing their Demand Deposit Accounts into something more like NOW accounts, where you have to wait seven days for your own friggin’ money while the bank floats a few more basis points off you. Not to put too fine a point on it, but: screw them.
So it’s a rule but they have no plans to enforce it. I just love rules like that.
Naw. For that you'd have to imprison Soros.
Except that checks can, as longstanding norm, be delayed over a week (”waiting for the check to clear”).
I think the bell is ringing for us all....hold on tight!
On DEPOSITS (not even a withdrawl!) over $5K, my bank holds the d@mn deposit for 5 working days until it’s cleared through their system. So, that’s FIVE FULL DAYS I can’t touch MY money? Hello!?
I sure hope no one in my family is ever kidnapped and I need cash FAST.
‘Um...Mr. Kidnapper? My bank won’t release my million dollars for a few days. Could ya not cut anything off of my family member until my check clears? Thanks.’ *SNORT*
Don’t EVER confuse Laz with the facts. He don’t like that. ;)
could be this “Move your Money” thing the Libs started is getting some traction and is starting to bite them.
Truth is many state banking laws allow for a 7 day notice to withdraw large amounts. (a relative of mine in the business frequently uses this loophole when someone tries to present a large check which they suspect may be fraudelent)
FDIC Failed Bank List through February 19, 2010:
More curious is the rule is levied by the government, not the bank. The gov’t told the bank “tell your customers you might not pay up for 7 days”.
My current guess is it’s to slow/limit hits on FDIC payouts should there be a run on banks.
It sounds like in addition to incompetent lenders and portfolio managers, Citibank also has an incompetent communication and public relations department.
Lose the tagline, Laz, it’s a personal attack.
...they hold your money for seven days,..but they got your tax money to keep their incompentency going:
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In one year and 1 month, Obama has had 158 banks fail under his leadership. That is one bank shy of tripling Bushs 8 year total.
I think your point is that Bush's failed policies caused Obama, our savior, to have a very difficult first year. I hear Obama plans to have better years in the future by getting rid of those pesky capitalist rules once he implements his FIVE YEAR PLANS. The world will be a better place with a strong central government controlling every part of our lives. /sarc
What's funny about that line is it is said right after George Bailey told someone that it would take 60 days to withdraw his money because that was the agreement when he deposited it.
1st Customer: I got two hundred and forty-two dollars in here and two hundred and forty-two dollars isn't going to break anybody.
George Bailey: Okay, Tom. All right. Here you are. You sign this. You'll get your money in sixty days.
1st Customer: Sixty days?
George Bailey:Well, now that's what you agreed to when you bought you shares.
2nd Customer: Tom...Tom... Did you get your money?
1st Customer: No.
2nd Customer: Well, I did. Old man Potter'll pay fifty cents on the dollar for every share you got.
I can't take much more of this.
I'm heading for Nick's Place!
Of course, for all the blame he puts on Bush, Our Dark Overlord is certainly not above taking credit for Bush's successes---like Iraq...
(Heck I forgot it was still there. LOL)
There is a big difference between a Money Market Account (at your local bank branch) and a Money Market (Mutual) Fund (regulated by the SEC).
“Bye Bye Citibank. There go ALL of your depositers.”
Correct. A stupider and more wrong headed policy is difficult to imagine—Oh! Wait! I just remember Obama’s health care program!
That's true, but that doesn't mean they didn't use 2008 as an excuse for what they want to do.