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New question on 9/11 [Engineer/architect group petitioning Congress for new investigation]
The Washington Times ^ | Feb. 22, 2010 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 02/22/2010 10:03:45 AM PST by lakeprincess

A lingering technical question about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks still haunts some, and it has political implications: How did 200,000 tons of steel disintegrate and drop in 11 seconds? A thousand architects and engineers want to know, and are calling on Congress to order a new investigation into the destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 at the World Trade Center.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; 911truther; alexjones; malkin; nutbars; nutcase; obama; paultardsunite; ronpaul; rosieodonnell; terrorism; troofer; troofers; truther; truthers; zotbait
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1 posted on 02/22/2010 10:03:45 AM PST by lakeprincess
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To: lakeprincess

Nothing to see here - move along now.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 10:05:12 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: lakeprincess

Asked and answered. Give it up already.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 10:06:00 AM PST by JTHomes
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To: lakeprincess

Once one domino falls, what the hell do the rest of them do? Stand up straight? Duh.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 10:06:40 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: lakeprincess

IBTZ


5 posted on 02/22/2010 10:07:11 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: lakeprincess

10,000 Architects and Engineers understand completely you idiot!
Get some listening skills


6 posted on 02/22/2010 10:07:21 AM PST by DanielRedfoot (What a fool believes, No wise man has the power to reason away)
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To: lakeprincess

At a guess? The impact and fire from the aircraft weakened several floors below the point of impact. Eventually those floors gave way, at which point the already weakened tower had to cope with what amounted to a 15 story building being dropped on it from three stories up. Momentum of the top floors collapsed the rest of the tower.

An engineer? No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 10:07:29 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: lakeprincess

Hmmmmm.... I thought the impact/blast blew the very fragile fireproofing of the steel support members. Then the burning jet fuel and bldg contents heated the exposed steel sufficiently that it couldn’t support all the floors above the fire. This seems pretty legitimate to me, what’s the problem with it anyone?


10 posted on 02/22/2010 10:08:14 AM PST by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: lakeprincess

Jennifer Harper appears to be an idiot.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 10:08:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: lakeprincess

Explained here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sunder.html


12 posted on 02/22/2010 10:08:55 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Little Pig

Amazing...watched it live...lived through it....and STILL, there are nutjobs trying to revise history.


13 posted on 02/22/2010 10:09:03 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: lakeprincess

I saw a documentary years ago that explained and illustrated the construction of the towers, and exactly how the impacts caused them to weaken and collapse. It was so clear that a nontechnical person like me found it easy to understand. The only “lingering” question is for people who reject the facts and insist there’s some sort of conspiracy.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 10:09:19 AM PST by American Quilter (Mourning Capt Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie.)
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To: lakeprincess

Ok ok, I did it.

We spent weeks wiring the whole building with explosives. It took 50 miles of blast wire and about 5,000 pounds of explosives. We drilled out the main support columns in between the desks of office workers and told them just to ignore and keep working. We then told them not to touch the yellow wires we weaved all through the two buildings.

It was a big job but we got `er done,


15 posted on 02/22/2010 10:09:20 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: onyx; LucyT; CondoleezzaProtege; muawiyah; SunkenCiv; Yehuda
Report from the Washington Times.

Hasn't this already been answered in full, long ago??

16 posted on 02/22/2010 10:10:14 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: lakeprincess

Ahh not this crap again. Why is it the idiot “truthers” never question why the walls and roof of the Pentagon collapsed?


17 posted on 02/22/2010 10:11:21 AM PST by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: lakeprincess

Gravity.

SnakeDoc


18 posted on 02/22/2010 10:12:34 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Do you know if the hotel is pager friendly? [...] I'm not getting a sig on my beeper.)
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To: lakeprincess

Let’s say for the sake of discussion these people have legitimate questions
Then I would how ask did Bush coordinate this will Al Q?
Did osama send him a memo ?

OR was Al Q not even involved at all but just took credit, that Bush planned it all?
OR did Bush plant explosives in every likely building including the Capitol? and has since removed the eplosives


19 posted on 02/22/2010 10:12:37 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: lakeprincess

Probably the best site I have seen for debunking the 911 nuts:

http://www.debunking911.com/


20 posted on 02/22/2010 10:15:16 AM PST by fred2008
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To: lakeprincess
Read these and you will learn why and how the buildings fell:

NIST and the World Trade Center

NIST Executive Summary

21 posted on 02/22/2010 10:15:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: cripplecreek

Since lakeprincess only posts Jennifer Harper articles from the wash times and never comments, I would say Jennifer Harper appears to bee lakeprincess.


23 posted on 02/22/2010 10:17:43 AM PST by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Ok ok, I did it.

Didn't you design the "Magic Bullett" too? ... and here I always thought Kennedy and the Tx Gov were just positioned 6 inches off of perfect posture.

Man, I am really impressed! ... also, "Where are you holding Anastasia?"

24 posted on 02/22/2010 10:17:55 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: east1234

Regarding the fireproofing, recall that leftwing activists and attorneys stopped the use of asbestos containing insulation about halfway through construction. If you ask me, they’re to blame for the collapse.


25 posted on 02/22/2010 10:18:13 AM PST by lwd
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To: lakeprincess
This has been answered in minute, scientific detail already. The only people still pushing the 9/11 conspiracy fantasy is a bunch of loopy tin-foilers and unstable kooks.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report


26 posted on 02/22/2010 10:18:14 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The liberals are asking us to give Obama more time. Is 25 to life enough?)
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To: lakeprincess

Yeah, there must be a conspiracy!
Remember the famed metallurgist, Rosie O’Donnell, telling us that fire can’t melt steel. It’s never happened before in history!

/sarcasm


27 posted on 02/22/2010 10:18:17 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: lakeprincess
This you?


28 posted on 02/22/2010 10:18:35 AM PST by McGruff (Don't criticize. Explain to me who I should support other than Sarah Palin.)
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To: lakeprincess

I watched the whole thing on TV. It took took longer than 11 seconds for the buildings to come down. There was enough time for the structures to collapse. This is silly.

As I was watching it, I remembered the 1962 attempt to bomb the World Trade Building (underground truck bomb), and I said aloud, “they are going to bring down the World Trade buildings.” I didn’t know WHO they were, but instantly I connected the two as being done by the same group.


29 posted on 02/22/2010 10:19:47 AM PST by i_dont_chat (We have a cultural crisis–not a heath-care crisis.)
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To: lakeprincess
the truther crap has been utterly destroyed by structural engineers, physics professors, architects, and assorted other sane people. give it a rest.

a bit surprised to see that in the WaTimes.

30 posted on 02/22/2010 10:21:12 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

>> Yeah, there must be a conspiracy!
Remember the famed metallurgist, Rosie O’Donnell, telling us that fire can’t melt steel. It’s never happened before in history! <<

It is amazing that those steel girders grow in nature because if we had to make them we certainly couldn’t use fire to refine Iron....


31 posted on 02/22/2010 10:21:19 AM PST by GraceG
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To: lakeprincess

Over Load.


32 posted on 02/22/2010 10:21:28 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: lakeprincess
"says Richard Gage, a San Francisco architect"

I'd have never guessed.

33 posted on 02/22/2010 10:21:32 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: American Quilter

It appears that a lot of newer buildings are built that way and would likely collapse in very much the same way. Fortunately we don’t have passenger jets flying into them all the time for us to test the theory.

The Sears tower in Chicago is a notable exception due to its unique design.


34 posted on 02/22/2010 10:21:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: SoldierDad; MotleyGirl70; Cagey; earlJam; Taffini; ReneeLynn
A thousand architects and engineers want to know

Perhaps this pitiful little army of George Costanzas could direct their questions to the hundreds of thousands of real architects and engineers who actually understand thermodynamics.


35 posted on 02/22/2010 10:22:41 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: I see my hands

As with logic, the basic laws of physics are lost on those determined to prove themselves right and the world wrong.


36 posted on 02/22/2010 10:22:53 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: free me

She also doesn’t appear to respond to any posts. Just posts the article and runs.


37 posted on 02/22/2010 10:23:58 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: lakeprincess

A post and run freeper? Is that you Mrs. Medina?


38 posted on 02/22/2010 10:23:59 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: lakeprincess
crack pot


39 posted on 02/22/2010 10:24:58 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: free me; lakeprincess
Since lakeprincess only posts Jennifer Harper articles from the wash times and never comments, I would say Jennifer Harper appears to bee lakeprincess.

Whoa. I just checked, and that is the weirdest posting history I think I've ever seen on FR. I do believe you're right.

40 posted on 02/22/2010 10:26:25 AM PST by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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To: lakeprincess

Its been proven by Hollywood celebrities that metal does not bend when heat is applied ...talk to any celebrity about it


41 posted on 02/22/2010 10:26:34 AM PST by woofie
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To: Larry Lucido

It was probably the pig men! The pig men were behind it.


42 posted on 02/22/2010 10:26:49 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: CaptainK

Yeah, I’m surprised at how many of these type “posters” there are on FR.

I guess they just use it to pimp their blog,column, etc.

I wish there was something that could be done about it.


43 posted on 02/22/2010 10:27:38 AM PST by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: i_dont_chat
I remembered the 1962 attempt to bomb the World Trade Building (underground truck bomb),

The 1962 attempt didn't work because the buildings weren't even there yet. Muslimonazis are evil but not all that bright.

And of course, in the 1992 attempt, the bastard was caught when he tried to get his Ryder deposit back.

44 posted on 02/22/2010 10:29:15 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: lakeprincess

The article only raises one question for me:

What in the heck is the Washington Times doing running it?


45 posted on 02/22/2010 10:29:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: lonevoice
Oh no, there are lots of them. I didn't bother with the courtesy ping because, well, she doesn't ever comment :)
46 posted on 02/22/2010 10:30:02 AM PST by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: ReneeLynn; rintense

We still haven’t heard from the marine biologists!


47 posted on 02/22/2010 10:30:13 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Doomonyou
How did 200,000 tons of steel disintegrate and drop in 11 seconds?

It's called gravity. (Well, duh.)

48 posted on 02/22/2010 10:30:37 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Most university "science" amounts to squandering tax dollars in unoriginal ways.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Well we know Rosie O’Donut has given her expert opinion on this.


49 posted on 02/22/2010 10:31:29 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Thanks... I couldnt remember the name Rosie O’Donnell


50 posted on 02/22/2010 10:31:57 AM PST by woofie
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