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Joint effort on track to take shinkansen system to U.S.
The Japan Times ^ | Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2010 | ERIC JOHNSTON

Posted on 02/22/2010 1:56:38 PM PST by Willie Green

When U.S. President Barack Obama took office, one thing he pitched was a "Green New Deal" that would reduce fossil fuel use, and high-speed passenger trains like those in Japan and Europe were part of his sweeping plan.

If there is one thing virtually all Americans whose only form of transport at home has been automobiles appreciate when they come to Japan, it's the bullet trains — a marvel worthy of emulation in the United States.

The U.S. East and West Coasts, the Midwest and Florida have all expressed interest in introducing, or in the case of the East, upgrading, high-speed passenger rail service.

Last month, U.S. and Japanese officials discussed introducing bullet trains in America, and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood hopes to visit Japan in a couple of months to take a ride on a shinkansen.

What is being done to introduce shinkansen systems in the U.S.?

Two companies have been formed to introduce current and future bullet-train technology to the U.S. market. The first, U.S.-Japan High Speed Rail, was set up to sell the N700-I trains currently in use in Japan.

The second, U.S.-Japan MAGLEV, is looking to introduce maglev trains like those now being tested in Japan, where they are not expected to go into operation for at least another 15 years.

Both are based in Washington and funded by the U.S. venture capital firm New Magellan Ventures. They are led by prominent former high-ranking government officials who have been deeply involved with U.S.-Japanese defense relations, including Richard Lawless, the president and CEO of U.S.-Japan High Speed Rail.

Lawless served as deputy undersecretary of defense for Asia-Pacific security affairs.

Over the past several months, U.S. and Japanese officials involved in the project have been holding meetings with the aim of concluding a contract before the end of this year.

Where in America would bullet trains debut?

Michael Finnegan, executive vice president of U.S.-Japan MAGLEV, said the N700-I series may be introduced in various regions, including Florida, Los Angeles-Las Vegas, Texas and perhaps the Midwest on a Chicago-St. Louis route.

He said an initial line may link Tampa and Orlando, Fla., with an eventual link with Miami.

Many of the bureaucratic challenges to introducing bullet trains to this region have been, or are nearly, resolved, he said.

When would bullet trains actually start operating in the U.S.?

Assuming Japan wins the contract, Finnegan said it's within the realm of possibility that the first passengers could board a U.S. bullet train in three or four years. But this assumes a contract is signed by year's end and federal, state and local government, as well as private, funding is arranged.

The federal government has set aside $8 billion for this year to start the project, and Obama will pressure Congress for billions more in the coming years.

Florida, which appears the most likely place to see the N700-I debut, received $1.25 billion of this amount to actually build the line.

But Japan is not the only country hoping to sell high-speed rail technology to the United States.

European and Canadian companies are angling for contracts and are lobbying the U.S. government. In addition, questions linger over when funding will be available and how much the public sector can cough up.

What adaptations would bullet trains have to undergo to run in the U.S. and would they carry freight?

Aside from dealing with possible differences in track gauge, the U.S. side appears to prefer shorter bullet trains than the 14- to 16-car trains that run between Tokyo and Osaka.

U.S. bullet trains would probably require larger seats.

Both Finnegan and Kenji Hagihara, public relations manager at Central Japan Railway (JR Tokai), which has teamed up with the two American companies, say there are no plans to use bullet trains to haul freight. Freight cars in use in the U.S. have various designs, depending on the commodities they carry, and are not streamlined for the types of speeds reached by bullet trains. The standard U.S. gauge — the distance between rails — differs from that of the shinkansen system as well.

However, bullet-train coaches would be able to haul mail and other packaged items, such as Federal Express parcels, and this could interest shipping companies.

What are the chances of a U.S. debut of the next-generation maglev, which is still being tested and won't be introduced in Japan for many years?

The maglev's potential introduction to the U.S. is much further away than the three to four years in which N700-Is could enter service. JR Tokai's Hagihara said company officials are still explaining the maglev system to the U.S.

Even if the various technical challenges to introduce a maglev system are overcome, the amount of money required to build the civil engineering infrastructure would far exceed the $8 billion in stimulus money the U.S. Federal Railway Administration is allocating for high-speed rail this year.

Will it be hard to get enough Americans to park their coveted cars and travel by high-speed train so the rail systems can turn a profit?

U.S. and Japanese officials involved in bringing bullet trains to the U.S. are addressing that question in a number of ways.

Hagihara said his company has emphasized to U.S. officials that bullet trains are energy-efficient, environmentally friendly and will help reduce automobile traffic, which is a major problem for trucking companies that use the heavily congested roads. Also, construction of high-speed rail lines would mean many new jobs.

Finnegan emphasized that with the high cost of gasoline, and the hassles of getting on a plane due to increased security measures since 9/11, more people are open to the idea of taking the train.

He added that the airline industry may welcome high-speed rail lines, especially for routes of less than 800 km, because most airlines don't make money on short-haul flights. A shinkansen system would allow them to concentrate on longer, more profitable flights.

Have consumer safety problems with Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles and bilateral friction, including over the Futenma base relocation, created political concerns among American lawmakers about adopting Japanese technology instead of that of a rival?

Finnegan said most people in Washington realize the shinkansen system represents tried-and-true technology, bullet trains have never been involved in a crash, and introducing them could benefit bilateral cooperation in other ways, including green technologies, an area Obama has demonstrated a strong interest in promoting.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Japan; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: boxcarwillie; choochoocharlie; maglev; stimulus; trains
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Sadly, the GOP is on the wrong side of the fence on this issue.
By blindly pursing partisan obstructionism, it is becoming the party of infrastructure decay, which will only serve to drag us into further economic decline.
1 posted on 02/22/2010 1:56:38 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

I vote for putting all government workers, welfare recipients, and prisoners into gerbil wheels and have them create electricity for the rest of us. Is that green or what?


2 posted on 02/22/2010 2:02:43 PM PST by anonsquared (TEA PARTY 2010 - THROW 'EM ALL IN THE HARBOR!)
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To: Willie Green

The U.S is not Japan.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 2:04:00 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Willie Green

Japan (where the “shinkansen” term and concept come from) has a population density of 873,000 people per square mile. (Obviously the hub cities of the shinkansen are much, much higher.)

The USA’s population density is almost exactly ONE TENTH that of Japan.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 2:05:36 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Willie Green

I agree, a high speed ground based transportation system is needed in this country.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 2:06:18 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Willie Green

How will Maglev or even high speed rail work under a lot of snow? It’s not hard to plow regular tracks, but with high speed trains and the very high tolerances of maglev, a small buildup of ice could cause serious problems.

...and as far as the overall issue of rail travel goes, very little of the US is remotely densely populated enough to ever make rail profitable.


6 posted on 02/22/2010 2:06:48 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Willie Green

Japan is roughly the size of California alone.
Americans don’t want to take trains, except in
cities.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 2:08:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Willie Green

Willie! You’re back!


8 posted on 02/22/2010 2:10:19 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What makes you think that? If there was an option better than Amtrak, I think people would use it.


9 posted on 02/22/2010 2:11:08 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

To heck with trains, give me a highway I can legally do 120 mph on.


10 posted on 02/22/2010 2:11:57 PM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: pogo101
The USA’s population density is almost exactly ONE TENTH that of Japan.

The land area of the lower 48 states is 3,119,884.69 square miles.

I read that as ~100 people per square mile.

11 posted on 02/22/2010 2:12:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Willie Green
If there is one thing virtually all Americans whose only form of transport at home has been automobiles appreciate when they come to Japan, it's the bullet trains

The one thing I greatly appreciate when returning to the U.S. from countries that rely heavily on public transportation is our wonderful system of roads. I can crisscross the Country with complete independence not relying on "stations" or "Time schedules". Most cities can be traversed with little fuss. All this from the comfort of my personal automobile.

Freedom is great! They can have the high speed tin cans filled with a crush of human flesh.

Maybe they really would rather have a Corvette.

12 posted on 02/22/2010 2:13:14 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Willie Green

As an alternative to the present state of air travel - hell yes.


13 posted on 02/22/2010 2:13:59 PM PST by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: DonaldC

Donald,
Because we like cars to travel - except where it is
a hassle, like big cities (NYC).

Amtrak is a government run train system. It is mediocre
at a high cost. Soon it will be swarming with TSA agents.

Trains are expensive to build and maintain. High speed
trains are more expensive to build and maintain.

America is broke, in case you haven’t noticed.

Why in the world would we build trains using China’s
money as a debt on our kids? Hmmm?

We are not Japan.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 2:14:12 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Willie Green

No federal subsidies. But if the Japanese think they can build these trains and run them at a profit, more power to them and their investment is welcomed. I do wonder, however, about the rights of way.


15 posted on 02/22/2010 2:14:39 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: stylin_geek

An American autobahn. I would support that if we started driver education earlier much as they do in Finland.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 2:15:08 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Apercu

Oh, wait until the TSA gets involved with rail.


17 posted on 02/22/2010 2:16:24 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m just going by this,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

Which recites Japan @ 127,470,000 people in 145,898 square miles, and

the USA @ 308,732,000 people in 3,717,813 square miles.

I admit I didn’t do my own math!


18 posted on 02/22/2010 2:17:17 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Izzy Dunne

Japan isn’t quite itself either. I doubt that bullet trains benefit the average Japanese citizen as it does a elite ridership. Willy G can harp all he wants about our crumbling infrastructure but that has more to do with the government (and willy’s) warped priorities. How much gas tax and other appropriate state/federal revenue has gone towards road and bridge repair (ie car roads that are used all the time)? Oh, and did that lovely stimulus help? Doubt it.


19 posted on 02/22/2010 2:18:41 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Army Air Corps

Nah, charge a premium for an American Autobahn license, set a minimum age of 21 and require a special high speed driving course.

Very stiff drunk driving sentences on the American Autobahn (think automatic 90 days in jail) and tailgating results in a very large fine.

Oh, and vehicles must be safety inspected yearly with appropriate certification.


20 posted on 02/22/2010 2:22:07 PM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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