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Banks Continue To Pull The Rug Out From Under The Economy
The Business Insider ^ | 2-22-1010 | Joe Weisenthal and Kamelia Angelova

Posted on 02/22/2010 2:20:40 PM PST by blam

CHART OF THE DAY: Banks Continue To Pull The Rug Out From Under The Economy

Joe Weisenthal and Kamelia Angelova
Feb. 22, 2010, 3:21 PM

Can the economy revive if banks don't start to lend again?

Let's hope so.

Today the St. Louis Fed released its latest monthly look at commercial and industrial loans at major banks -- a measure that some would say represents the essence of the US banking system.

As you can see, this measure is still falling like a knife -- a bad sign for the ongoing health of the economy. (And also not what we were promised when we bailed out the banks.)


(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; banking; banks; bhoeconomy; credit; economy; fourth100days; investments; loans

1 posted on 02/22/2010 2:20:40 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

I don’t understand why they bash banks, they are just responding to the conditions created by government policies.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 2:22:37 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: blam

So what happened in 1970 that started the see-saw effect?


3 posted on 02/22/2010 2:23:21 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: blam
How are they going to start lending again when we're coming up on a commercial property loan default crisis, and another group of ARMs are about to reset?

And why would they start lending, when they saw from what happened to the GM bond holders how little their agreements meant to this administration?

4 posted on 02/22/2010 2:25:33 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Hey Nancy, how many jobs have been lost since you and the Democrats took Congress?)
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To: blam

interesting how flat it used to be until 1970.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 2:28:28 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: DonaldC

Nixon closed the gold window in 1971


6 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:34 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: blam

The drop may be more due to lack of demand than lack of supply.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:50 PM PST by expatpat
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To: DonaldC
So what happened in 1970 that started the see-saw effect?

We starting shipping our manufacturing overseas.

8 posted on 02/22/2010 2:30:43 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: ari-freedom

“interesting how flat it used to be until 1970.”


Why would that be?


9 posted on 02/22/2010 2:30:50 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: ari-freedom

That’s weird. I always thought this happened during the Great Depression.

So was it brought back, then removed again?


10 posted on 02/22/2010 2:33:49 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: blam

This could lead to the government taking control of the banks while denying that it is taking control of the banks.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 2:41:16 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: blam
Similar Cheerie Newz


12 posted on 02/22/2010 2:42:53 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: blam

What BS.....the banks would lend, but the FDIC is coming in the back door and hammering their current loan portfolio.


13 posted on 02/22/2010 2:43:25 PM PST by radioone ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.")
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To: GeronL; All

Because we were told we HAD to bail out the banks or else ‘credit would dry up and the country would financially collapse’. So we bailed them out and the reason they gave for HAVING TO INJECT BAILOUT RIGHT THIS MINUTE!!!! is happening anyway.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 2:47:06 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: blam

15 posted on 02/22/2010 2:47:36 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: blam

Off topic but did you see this?

http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/somethings-up-in-the-gold-market-imf-the-treasury


16 posted on 02/22/2010 2:48:56 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: blam

17 posted on 02/22/2010 2:51:49 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

That execess reserves held at the fed graphic is interesting.


18 posted on 02/22/2010 2:51:54 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: blam

Borrowing money that you can’t pay back is NOT good for the economy.


19 posted on 02/22/2010 2:52:27 PM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: blam

20 posted on 02/22/2010 2:55:55 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: autumnraine

credit for those who can’t pay it back SHOULD dry up. Propping up the deadbeats is what got them into trouble.


21 posted on 02/22/2010 2:59:52 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: blam

This is the over reaction to easy credit.

On the one hand legitimate borrowers are not getting credit and yet fannie and freddie are still loaning dollars to deadbeats.


22 posted on 02/22/2010 3:03:30 PM PST by Carley
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To: GeronL

This is commercial, not the Freddie/Fannie stuff you are talking about. Notice the chart that at the top says “Commercial and Industrial Loans...”


23 posted on 02/22/2010 3:03:47 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: DonaldC
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/bg2371.cfm

Excess Reserves and the Inflation Threat

Banks are required to keep a certain amount of reserves at the Fed based on the amount of the banks' deposits. In 2007, for example, banks' required reserves against deposits averaged about $41 billion. Traditionally, banks would keep a modest amount of additional, or "excess," reserves on deposit at the Fed to avoid penalties that arise if their total deposits fall below the required level. In 2007, excess reserves averaged about $1.8 billion.

In the face of the crisis, all manner of financial institutions sought to maximize cash on hand. However, by hoarding cash balances, financial institutions exacerbated the credit crunch enveloping the financial system. The Fed sought to increase liquidity sufficiently so that institutions could obtain the necessary cash balances and, perhaps equally important, be confident that they could obtain more if necessary. It was hoped that institutions might then feel confident enough to participate more normally in financial markets by lending to one another. One manifestation of the Fed's efforts was the explosion of banks' excess reserves...

...The expansion in excess reserves demonstrates the lengths to which the Fed has gone to sustain financial markets. It also demonstrates the extraordinary latent pressures that could trigger resurgent inflation.

24 posted on 02/22/2010 3:04:05 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: DonaldC

Going off the gold standard and then borrowing borrowing borrowing, which led to inflation.

It’s just around the corner.


25 posted on 02/22/2010 3:04:23 PM PST by Carley
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To: blam

We could double sales this year if banks understood the individual business customer and their consistent growth rate as well as the uniqueness of their business.

I understand tightening credit for saturated business models that have a track record which follows national trends.

But there are many businesses like mine that are unique start ups with steady growth every single year. Even this year when all of my friends in various $$$ enterprises measured success by who declined the least, we grew and are on track to grow again.

Banks need to hire people trained to work outside the box and understand the the little guy. The free market and a user friendly credit sytem is part of what made American great. Way back when, a dummy like me could go to my neighbor banker with an idea and he would say “why not that makes sense”. Now we are all measured by a data stream that has nothing to do with the individuality of the business.


26 posted on 02/22/2010 3:05:29 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: autumnraine

The conditions in this country, high tax, heavy regulations and uncertainty about things like Cap N Tax and Card Check has a big influence. Uncertainty is bad for business.


27 posted on 02/22/2010 3:09:02 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: autumnraine

I also think they have been pressured to buy treasury bonds


28 posted on 02/22/2010 3:11:58 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: FromLori

No, thanks.


29 posted on 02/22/2010 3:18:35 PM PST by blam
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To: GeronL

The banks were PAID to reduce principle and interest.

The banks ARE paid for each year a modified loan remains modified.

Obama and wall street are tossing main street under the bus.


30 posted on 02/22/2010 3:22:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FromLori

FWIW, somebody posted it on Friday http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2455642/posts


31 posted on 02/22/2010 3:59:58 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DonaldC

Jimmy carter happened in the 70’s...


32 posted on 02/22/2010 4:41:09 PM PST by Freddd
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To: DonaldC

Nixon took us off the gold standard so our money was no longer backed by the gold at Fort Knox. We went to staight FIAT money and have suffered the same exact identical fate of every other nation that has ever tried to go to straight fiat money, backed by nothing buy the good faith and sound judgment of the criminals, liars, psychopaths and other assorted snake oil salesman at the top saying “trust me”.

History always repeats itself.

Human nature never changes.

Fiat money always collapses.


33 posted on 02/22/2010 5:07:03 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: CommieCutter

No, From ‘33 to ‘71 it was illegal to own gold with but few exceptions such as jewelry and dentistry and a few collector’s items.


34 posted on 02/22/2010 5:25:44 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: radioone
Amen to that.

My former bank employer was forced by FDIC to re-appraise all the commercial real estate and chargeoff everything above liquidation value - on PERFORMING loans.

Created an insurmountable capital deficit and FDIC closed it last month.

1.3 billion community bank, 120 million in liquidity on the seizure date. Delinquency rate on commercial loans @ .35%, no subprime assets, net income of $30 million in 2009.

It was a crime and a taking.

35 posted on 02/22/2010 6:18:58 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: count-your-change

Since I posted last:I read something about where the Gold Standard was removed in 1933 then brought back in 1946 then dropped in 1971.


36 posted on 02/22/2010 9:11:18 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: CommieCutter

You may be thinking of the standardization of the dollar as 1/35th. of an oz. of gold. This was for gov. and central banks not private ownership. Not til ‘71 did it become legal for a person to obtain gold other than collector coins.


37 posted on 02/22/2010 10:15:25 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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