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ObamaCare at Ramming Speed
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 22, 2010

Posted on 02/22/2010 5:31:39 PM PST by La Lydia

Three days before President Obama's supposedly bipartisan health-care summit, the White House released a new blueprint that Democrats say they will ram through Congress with or without Republican support. So after election defeats in Virginia, New Jersey and even Massachusetts, and amid overwhelming public opposition, Democrats have decided to give the voters want they don't want anyway.

Ah, the glory of "progressive" governance and democratic consent.

"The President's Proposal," as the White House document is headlined, is in one sense a notable achievement: It manages to take the worst of both the House and Senate bills and combine them into something more destructive. It includes more taxes, more subsidies and even less cost control than the Senate bill...

Price controls are always the first resort of national health care...this new White House gambit is merely a preview of ObamaCare's inevitable planned medical economy, which will reduce choice and quality.

The coercive flavor that animates this exercise is best captured in the section that purports to accept the Senate's "grandfather clause" allowing people who like their current health plan to keep it. Except that "The President's Proposal adds certain consumer protections to these 'grandfathered' plans....

The larger political message of this new proposal is that Obama and Democrats have no intention of compromising on an incremental reform, or of listening to Republican, or any other, ideas on health care. They want what they want, and they're going to play by Chicago Rules and try to dragoon it into law on a narrow partisan vote via Congressional rules that have never been used for such a major change in national policy. If you want to know why Democratic Washington is "ungovernable," this is it.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2takeawayamerica; 2takeawayliberty; 2takeawayrepublic; 4thecommongood; congress; democrat; democrats; govhealthcare; healthcare; hillarycare; impeachobama; obama; obamacare; romney; romney4obama; romneycare; socialism; socializedmedicine; spreadingthewealth; wreckinghealthcare
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Yup, they are going to try to ram this through.
1 posted on 02/22/2010 5:31:39 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Republicans are COMPLETE FOOLS if they meet with Obama on this.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 5:33:05 PM PST by Kimberly GG (PALIN SUPPORTS PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AMNESTY and PROGRESSIVE RHINO MCCAIN.)
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To: La Lydia

Orange jump suits and handcuffs for all! We are coming close to pitchforks and torch time!


3 posted on 02/22/2010 5:35:04 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Cockblock the sock puppet in 2010)
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To: La Lydia

If they put this thing thru with Reconciliation we need to march on Washington the next day, and this time we dont need to be polite and wait outside. We need to enter the Capitol and run these people out. Make them call out the Army.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 5:36:08 PM PST by Venturer
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To: La Lydia

Senator John Blutarski: “Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!”

Ramming speed indeed....


5 posted on 02/22/2010 5:36:36 PM PST by bigbob
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To: La Lydia

Wow. What an incredibly lucid, direct, and simple description.


6 posted on 02/22/2010 5:36:54 PM PST by Sax
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To: La Lydia

Isn’t communism just grand? You, your children, your grandchildren and their grandchildren are about to receive the Mother of all Muggings from the Obama the Kenyan and his lowlife, commie Chicago mob.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 5:36:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: Venturer

My sister and I will show up...


8 posted on 02/22/2010 5:37:02 PM PST by Freddd
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To: La Lydia

Beyond insulting. Unexceptable on every level. Pure treason.


9 posted on 02/22/2010 5:38:01 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: La Lydia

Tea Party March on Washington 2.010.....this time it’s war.


10 posted on 02/22/2010 5:38:47 PM PST by MamaLucci (Tea Party March on Washington 2.010.....this time it's war.)
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To: La Lydia

Just as Mark Steyn has been saying when he subs for Rush. Government taking over health care will give them life-and-death power over us peasants. From then on it’s all over—like the eurosocialists—government will be all powerful and the Party of Government, while it may face some short-term electoral pain, will soon be back in power in a few election cycles, this time for eternity.

They’re banking on the observed history of pubbies, that they won’t do a damn thing to turn back the one-way ratchet of statism if they regain power.

I’m going with what myself and others have theorized, that the dem congresscritters have all been personally promised all manner of cushy jobs and goodies to set them up for life when they’re turned out of office in November and 2012.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 5:38:48 PM PST by sinanju
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Note, he cannot do this on his own, he needs both houses of Congress. They are just as vile and contemptible as he is.


12 posted on 02/22/2010 5:40:21 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
RAMMING SPEEEEEED!!!!!


13 posted on 02/22/2010 5:40:47 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Political Correctness Will Get Us All Killed)
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To: La Lydia

And just wait! The dems are going after your retirement funds/pension money. They plan to raid 401K’s etc. to pay for the trillions they’ve just wasted. We’ll get an IOU. So much a month promised from the funds when we reach retirement age. Er, well, isn’t that illegal? Stealing, in fact? Yes, but it’s Obama, so it’s okay. The Obama administration at ramming speed. Yes, indeedy.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 5:40:51 PM PST by hershey
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To: La Lydia

Everything the Left does is planned to move the ball further Left. They will propose an atrocious bill they know will not pass. Then they will haggle endlessly until finally “compromising” on what they had intended to get in the beginning.

The Republicans and the American public is finally wising up. Well, at least the public is.


15 posted on 02/22/2010 5:41:27 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: La Lydia

I say sink the bastard! Ram him back with a bigger ship....the SS Truth !!!!!


16 posted on 02/22/2010 5:42:05 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: La Lydia

I say sink the bastard! Ram him back with a bigger ship....the SS Truth !!!!!


17 posted on 02/22/2010 5:42:09 PM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Obamacare at Ludicrous speed.


18 posted on 02/22/2010 5:42:41 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: La Lydia

How many more times am I going to read about the “bipartisan” plan that was written by one party and the other one won’t touch? You’d think that a plan like that would be described as “partisan”, but I guess I didn’t go to an Ivy League school......


19 posted on 02/22/2010 5:43:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Kimberly GG
Republicans are COMPLETE FOOLS if they meet with Obama on this.

Yup.

20 posted on 02/22/2010 5:45:00 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: La Lydia

The republicans cannot be serious about meeting with this reptile...What are they thinking???


21 posted on 02/22/2010 5:45:06 PM PST by hstacey
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To: La Lydia

I know where I would like to shove it! Nothing this poser doesn’t deserve!


22 posted on 02/22/2010 5:46:10 PM PST by WellyP
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To: hstacey

Please not to diss reptiles. They are honorable, if creepy, creatures.


23 posted on 02/22/2010 5:46:21 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

At this point, any “conservative” who isn’t willing to talk openly and LOUDLY about secession and reorganization will be shown to be a TRAITOR and/or a COWARD.

Under a secession and reorganization plan, a number of states would secede and then re-assemble under the U.S. Constitution (AS WRITTEN) as the Reorganized United States of America. All U.S. states would be invited to join - and most would.

The R-USA would have no obligation to pay the unconstitutionally acquired debts of old USA.


24 posted on 02/22/2010 5:47:37 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: Kimberly GG
Republicans are COMPLETE FOOLS if they meet with Obama on this.

They will meet with Obama on this.

25 posted on 02/22/2010 5:48:14 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: La Lydia

LOL...Sorry about degrading the reptiles...


26 posted on 02/22/2010 5:48:33 PM PST by hstacey
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
"The Republicans and the American public is finally wising up. Well, at least the public is."

Don't vote party or candidate; VOTE REPUBLIC!

27 posted on 02/22/2010 5:48:50 PM PST by jessduntno (Don't vote party or candidate; VOTE REPUBLIC!)
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To: La Lydia
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28 posted on 02/22/2010 5:51:29 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Speaking of Republicans. Simpson’s chatter is turning my stomach


29 posted on 02/22/2010 5:52:18 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: hershey

“They plan to raid 401K’s etc. to pay for the trillions they’ve just wasted. We’ll get an IOU. So much a month promised from the funds when we reach retirement age”

If he does this, violent revolt is morally justified. This would be nothing more than an outright theft by the revolutionary socialists we call democrats. It is always moral to use the force needed to overcome a thief. This isnt a tax,, it’s nothing but theft.


30 posted on 02/22/2010 5:52:59 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: La Lydia

I wonder what Boy Wonder is going to do when the Red Chinese tell him that they will not finance his KenyanCare. He’s setting himself up for a real dose of reality.


31 posted on 02/22/2010 5:54:30 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: La Lydia

Time to bring back tar and feathering. I fear we can’t wait for elections, inasmuch as they don’t listen to us anyway.


32 posted on 02/22/2010 5:56:10 PM PST by SpinyNorman (Carbon credits are designed to be the slush fund of the New World Order.)
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To: bigbob
RAMMING SPEED!
33 posted on 02/22/2010 5:56:36 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: ronnie raygun
Orange jump suits and handcuffs for all! We are coming close to pitchforks and torch time!

What, no tar-n-feather in between?

34 posted on 02/22/2010 5:56:58 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: La Lydia
Yup, they are going to try to ram this through.

With all the finesse of a bull in a china shop.

35 posted on 02/22/2010 5:58:14 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: La Lydia
It wouldn't take much to set off the powder keg right now...say a false-flag terror attack designed to justify martial law.

General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you now that we need you?

36 posted on 02/22/2010 5:58:36 PM PST by clintonh8r (Nobody's 'bot!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not really. He’ll be long out of office when the fan gets hit.


37 posted on 02/22/2010 5:59:34 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Freddd

I’ll show up, but I don’t know what I am going to do? The Berlin wall fell with out a shot.


38 posted on 02/22/2010 6:02:47 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: La Lydia

This fool seems to be traveling along the same road as Chavez is.


39 posted on 02/22/2010 6:04:31 PM PST by donhunt (America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Republicans are COMPLETE FOOLS if they meet with Obama on this.

They are complete fools if they don't.

The "summit" will be televised, if you recall. You don't want the President pointing at some unoccupied chairs.

The best approach: attend...be respectful...define the issue...stand your ground.

If the GOP makes their case and the President ignores them, they'll win the meeting.

It's for sure the media isn't going to make their case for them if they don't show up.

40 posted on 02/22/2010 6:07:30 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: political1

You nailed it. The DC politicians don’t really fear a second civil war, states secceeding, etc. But they are terrified of the Berlin wall,, of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine, etc. A sea of people who will not obey, who demand they be heard scares them to no end.

The left thought they had a monopoly on that,, so they let it become a cultural norm here. They never thought it would be us doing it to them.


41 posted on 02/22/2010 6:08:21 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: La Lydia

42 posted on 02/22/2010 6:10:01 PM PST by cranked
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To: DesertRhino

Them DC eltist politicians better care....they will be the first to be lynched.


43 posted on 02/22/2010 6:11:08 PM PST by cranked
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To: Kimberly GG

Are Boehner and company bent over, grasping their ankles and prepared to be “rammed”? I wonder what the Las Vegas line would be on such a possibility?


44 posted on 02/22/2010 6:17:54 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: Neidermeyer

RAMMING SPEED!


45 posted on 02/22/2010 6:19:02 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: La Lydia

The libtards appear to be charging toward a tipping point that will allow them to declare martial law, and then ALL BETS are OFF!

It’s time to take back the country.


46 posted on 02/22/2010 6:19:11 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: sinanju
time for a congressional frog march. Enough is enough. The only thing they will understand is to start marching them out in chains and hanging them
47 posted on 02/22/2010 6:20:15 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Tucker39

48 posted on 02/22/2010 6:28:15 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

cool movie and fitting pic!


49 posted on 02/22/2010 6:38:32 PM PST by Jen from Tn.
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Actually, if the November election doesn’t knock the wind out of their sails, its gonna be rifles and ammo time.


50 posted on 02/22/2010 6:52:51 PM PST by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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