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Meet kinder, gentler Glenn Beck: New 'global warming' believer
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Posted on 02/23/2010 7:15:43 AM PST by OneVike

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To: imskylark

Palin was blindsided with help from McCains campaign staffers.

Glen Beck knew what was coming and he still allowed it to happen. Beck is his own staffer, so why if conservative views are so engraved in his heart did he allow the interview to twist him?

My view is that No conservative needs the MSM to get their message out. Let the MSM dies they are not needed.


151 posted on 02/23/2010 9:28:51 AM PST by OneVike
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To: OneVike

A lot of people here love to swoon over their current “star,” particularly if that star is a non-Christian, like Beck, and ignore all the tell-tails that keep popping up in their presentations.

There are so many of these bloopers with Beck that I find it difficult to see his supporters here as anything but shills, of which we have a considerable number.

The fact that he swipes articles from bloggers and throws them out there like they were his own ‘brilliance’ is a huge warning sign that he is some day going to blow up like an Islamist bomber. Sometime soon, to be sure.

The stuff is not coming from his heart.


152 posted on 02/23/2010 9:29:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Tribune7
I would trust what I see Glenn say on his TV program more than I would trust a line from a USA Weekend article.

And has said over and over and OVER AGAIN on radio -- this is bunk, people buying the tripe are the same ones who glommed on to the admittedly-made-up baloney about the rape charge.

153 posted on 02/23/2010 9:37:27 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: skimbell
Beck's is exactly what you see. A dumbazz.

Oh Really?
He's either way too dumb for you, or way too smart.
Although I know what the answer is, I'll just let readers decide for themselves.

What is your opinion about James Hansen?
Also Phil Jones?
And then there's the biggie...
Dr Rajendra Pachauri?

There are dumazzes all over the place. Their calling card is usually an overblown sense of the importance of their opinion, their ignorance and, above all else, their empty resort to name-calling.

Familiarity with facts, and the ability to debate them is actually a good thing.

154 posted on 02/23/2010 9:39:55 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: editor-surveyor
The stuff is not coming from his heart.

I agree that it definitely does not seem to be in his heart as it is for 99% conservatives I know. If it were, like I said earlier, he would not be making the kind of missteps he has as of late.

The shooting star that is Glen Beck, does seem to be losing it's gas. At this rate he will be a cold dead planet like many other shooting stars from the past. Do you remember Ken Hamlin? He was big in the mid "90"s, but then hit the wall when he refused to back Dole only because Dole would not go on his show.

Say what you want about the country blood republicans who thought is was Doles turn and that is why he was the nominee, Hamlin's star pretty much fizzled after that.
155 posted on 02/23/2010 9:41:32 AM PST by OneVike
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To: Daisyjane69
BS, that was all over the Internet.

Until today I've never even heard of Pamela Geller and was fully aware of everything in the link you sent.

If we all had to cite sources for everything we utter we'd never get anything said.

It does a lot of harm to our cause when we bash those who are getting out truths that no one else is, and Gelnn is doing that. Maybe you already know the history but many do not.

This particular political climate has aroused a lot of interest in people who would normally be agnostic. How many lurkers do you think might come here, newly exposed to people like Glenn or Rush to see what people who are avid followers have to say about them?

WE need to attract all we can and not turn them off to people like Glenn, he's getting a lot of information out that needs to be heard.

Hell if we're bashing them they'll tune them out, it does a great disservice to our cause.

Disagreeing and having discussions about it are what this forum is for, eating our own for whatever inane reason is why we are known for snatching defeat from the jaw of victory.

156 posted on 02/23/2010 9:43:23 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Ron, I see so many FReepers posting this same criticism, Glenn's only out for ratings, sell a book, etc., etc., they follow this with the "That's it for me" or such, many claim they hold true to Rush. Do none of them recall those precise charges when Rush was first on the national scene from Sacramento? When he was selling his first book? (That he didn't actually write himself, that was a big hit from the lefties) When he had his TV show?? Are memories truly this short?

I laugh out loud at those here who are calling Beck fans "robots" or some other similar moniker, do you know how many times I STILL have to explain ditto-heads are not people who just follow Rush blindly, he coined "mind-numbed robots" specifically because of that? The problem the folks here seems to have is that Glenn is not a party-hack, and figures that if you're going to fix the problems inside the party that claims to embrace conservatism, you'd better start with admitting what the problem is, recognize those in the party suffering from it.

157 posted on 02/23/2010 9:48:32 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Good post...The theory that bothers me most is who is next? It may be beck now but could be most anyone that steps into the limelight next.


158 posted on 02/23/2010 9:48:39 AM PST by cva41
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To: OneVike

“Palin was blindsided with help from McCains campaign staffers.”

I know that and according to your own words you would also say if Palin’s conservative views are so engraved in her heart, why did she allow the interview to twist her?


159 posted on 02/23/2010 9:49:57 AM PST by imskylark
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To: 11th Commandment
Ya, and this isn't the first time this accusation has been thrown out and debunked. I wish people would research a little before knee jerk reaction posts!

Well, it does give the trolls the opportunity to earn their paycheck.

What surprises me is the number of sleepers in FR from way back.
2000?
1997?

When they start coming out of the woodwork, we know something is afoot. And it's not good for the "pregressive," ACORN, SEIU types.

160 posted on 02/23/2010 9:52:41 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: OneVike

Hamblin’s star fizzeled for a lot of much more important reasons. He touched on topics that his network considered “untouchable,” and did it repeatedly after being warned.


161 posted on 02/23/2010 9:53:24 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: imskylark

Sarah did not say anything on purpose or accidentally that was of liberal views. They nailed her because of things she said that were not political.

What they did to her was what they did to Dan Qual ever the word potato.

Glen made statements that were downright leftist leaning. Big Huge Difference.

If they wrote that he is stupid on foreign affairs because he said he could see Russia from Alaska, that would be different.

So please do not take my statement and twist it like that.


162 posted on 02/23/2010 9:56:18 AM PST by OneVike
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To: Publius6961

FreeRepublic has become diluted in recent years.

We used to be a much more active bunch, but now its mostly armchair. The really hot freepers have moved on.


163 posted on 02/23/2010 9:58:03 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: OneVike

Glenn Beck, while amusing (I watch him each day at 3:00pm here in UT) is everything I’ve figured him to be:

Part patriot
Part entrepreneur
Part thief
Part egomaniac

GB is a guy that we’ve seen so many times before. Like Morton Downey Jr.

I don’t want him to run for office. I don’t want anyone to nominate him for office.

While he is entertaining, he is not a serious human being. And it’s possible that he is so intellectually “light” that he might be downright dangerous.

And for those of you who are unsure, I suggest you compare Mark Levin, someone who completed law school by age 22 and worked in the Reagan administration to Beck...who....didn’t do a damn thing for conservatives.


164 posted on 02/23/2010 9:58:04 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: MozarkDawg
I know.

"Conservatives" bashing a successful person for doing and promoting the very things that made him successful.

Go figure.

165 posted on 02/23/2010 9:59:03 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: OneVike

Well said!


166 posted on 02/23/2010 9:59:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor

Et tu brute?


167 posted on 02/23/2010 9:59:36 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Pamela Geller is an amazing conservative. Awesome, in fact.


168 posted on 02/23/2010 10:00:22 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: editor-surveyor

OK, I agree on that. But he also began stating things that made conservatives like me cringe. I personally heard him say things that made me scratch my head.

Either way, you get my drift about shootings stars that come and go.


169 posted on 02/23/2010 10:01:13 AM PST by OneVike
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To: Publius6961

Considering how many here cannot see through such an impostor, it may soon be time. (entropy?)


170 posted on 02/23/2010 10:02:26 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: OneVike

Beck didn’t make those statements. I didn’t realize that you believed the article. I thought you were saying that he should have known they would lie about what he said. But don’t twist my words, either. I never said anything bad about Palin. I was being sarcastic.


171 posted on 02/23/2010 10:02:26 AM PST by imskylark
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To: imskylark
"Beck didn’t make those statements."

A river in Africa?

172 posted on 02/23/2010 10:04:50 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: wardaddy

i am going to wait and see and make my own judgment i guess. i have problems with Farah and am not inclined to take his word for anything. i am having a tough time catching Beck this week because my kids have basketball and hockey games most every day this week in the afternoon. if i knew how to run the dang dvr i’d dvr it, maybe i will see if i can figure that out.


173 posted on 02/23/2010 10:05:12 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: editor-surveyor
Uhh, no, not to the intelligent.

Got it.
Dump on Beck and call him names -- "intelligent."
Worship Al Gore and James Hansen --- "intelligent."

If I ever aspire to that type of intelligence, I'll be sure and read USA Today religiously.

174 posted on 02/23/2010 10:06:20 AM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: cva41
It may be beck now but could be most anyone that steps into the limelight next.

Yep, we used to applaud and want to emulate successes.

Now we subject them to ridicule and accuse them of ulterior motives.

Glenn has a unique style, I would assume he's probably the same in person, he is who he is on TV.

If people don't like it they don't have to watch but there is no reason to come on this forum with terms like "useful idiot" "divide and conquer" etc.

Makes me question the motives of the poster. Why would anyone show up on a thread that they had no interest in or about someone they don't like, there has to be a motive.

175 posted on 02/23/2010 10:07:14 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: Daisyjane69
Pamela Geller is an amazing conservative. Awesome, in fact.

I'll take your word for it, I just never heard of her until today. I'll look forward to hearing more from her in the future.

But the point still remains that I was fully aware of everything that was in the link you provided without ever reading anything by her.

With the Internet, everything spreads so fast and there is obviously no shortage of sources.

For every story that comes about there are a million Bloggers to cover it.

176 posted on 02/23/2010 10:11:57 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: Publius6961
Re: Beck's is exactly what you see. A dumbazz.

Oh Really? He's either way too dumb for you, or way too smart.

Anyone who is aware of how Beck exposes the crap out of the revolutionary communist left every single day, either doesn't know beans about the subject, is on the left themselves, or is simply too stupid to have a conversation with, at least not an intelligent one.

177 posted on 02/23/2010 10:17:27 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: imskylark

I did not say I believed it, I said the difference between the interview of Palin and the interview of Beck were completely different.

Until I investigate more and personally hear him deny it, I am on the side leaning that he did say what the interviewer wrote.

But I do know he attacks Republicans way too much.

I posted this article because I wanted to get to the truth. I have always been of the mindset that if I need to know something, and want the truth I come here.

Those of us at FreRepublic are the most informed individuals on the internet. So I like to ask the most informed people on the internet. My fellow Freepers.

Then I will contemplate, and meditate, and pray for wisdom from God. Eventually God will open up my mind and i will see the truth. It works every time it’s tried.

All that being said, Glen Beck is not my cup of tea, so I do look at things he says and does with a jaundiced eye.


178 posted on 02/23/2010 10:19:31 AM PST by OneVike
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To: Las Vegas Ron

And you just, my friend, made my point.

It will be nearly impossible to find a blogger who attributes a breaking story to GB. That’s because he takes the work of other people.

Pamela Geller is a respected blogger. She’s been around a long time, producing many books and in multiple languages, making GB look like an amateur. P. Geller gets interviews with international figures.

I don’t mind GB. I know that he eventually is going to come off the rails. I don’t mind that either.

I just hope he does’t take serious conservatives on the trip.


179 posted on 02/23/2010 10:20:43 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: OneVike

WTH is happening to these people? Yet another case of cranial squishiness. C’mon Glenn — who paid you?


180 posted on 02/23/2010 10:24:44 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Then keep your eyes closed like they have been so far, and above all, don't get any more mature, and you'll do fine!

I'm 68, retired military (O-6) with 32 years sea duty and have done things of which you could only daydream about.

You're the one accepting hear-say as fact without verifying...let's see how that system works out for you.

181 posted on 02/23/2010 10:30:18 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Daisyjane69
And you just, my friend, made my point.

No, I didn't make your point.

You inferred the GB stole his story line from Geller, that was a false accusation.

Does Pamela Geller cite every source she obtained those video's from, no she did not.

Your Pamela is guilty of the same things you accuse Glenn of.

I also gather you didn't accept my point of eating our own in front of noobs who might be here looking for some guidance only to be turned off by our petty criticisms of any given spokesman for our side.

Hell, we're not even debating the the merits of an issue but in stead we're focused on the messenger.

So be it, I think it's a big mistake and it does nothing to further the Conservative cause.

182 posted on 02/23/2010 10:34:25 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: OneVike

Media Matters as a source without a barf alert? I smell ozone.


183 posted on 02/23/2010 10:35:24 AM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Publius6961
"...There are dumazzes all over the place. Their calling card is usually an overblown sense of the importance of their opinion..."

That's your opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.

184 posted on 02/23/2010 10:36:41 AM PST by skimbell
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To: capt. norm

Bravo Zulu, Skipper.


185 posted on 02/23/2010 10:37:16 AM PST by cva41
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To: OneVike

He did deny it on his show yesterday. I don’t listen often but was in the car and tuned him in.

I look at the interviews as being the same. Both were used by the MSM to distort the truth.

He does attack Republicans too much and doesn’t give conservative Republicans any slack. I’m not that crazy about Beck but he is very good bringing information out that the MSM won’t cover. I just get a little frustrated with his delivery. It is a little over the top for me. I usually watch snippets that people put up on the web.

People are entitled to their opinions about Beck, I simply get frustrated with attacking someone for things they didn’t say. (generalized statement not directed at you)


186 posted on 02/23/2010 10:41:35 AM PST by imskylark
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To: Publius6961

Your post is unclear. - You quote my post, then respond to some unrelated and disorganized propositions from out of a vacuum.

I repeat, to an intelligent, and observing person, the article was in no way “debunked.” When a person makes a plain statement, regardless of whether he may have made conflicting statements at other times, he must offer substantial explanation. He has not.


187 posted on 02/23/2010 10:44:17 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

If you go back to her website, she not only shows her original source, you’ll find that the source responds in the Comments section to people questioning him.

She named the exact school where the documents came from. GB didn’t. GB just presented the documents in a generic way.
The parent of the involved student has his real name on the website. GB never mentioned him or the kid, for that matter.

P. Geller cited the names, and produced the documents they sent her; and then they consented to respond on her site. GB did none of these; he simply grabbed P. Geller’s documents off her site and presented the information as his own.

The reason we focus on the messenger, is that if the messenger is a fraud....perhaps so is the message.

And I think we concervatives should be concerned about tying ourselves to a fraud. Because he’ll take us down, too. He’s got NOTHING to lose.


188 posted on 02/23/2010 10:44:52 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: imskylark
People are entitled to their opinions about Beck, I simply get frustrated with attacking someone for things they didn’t say. (generalized statement not directed at you)

Understood, and no offense taken.

Like you, I too find him a bit too gruff and like Savage I catch a glimpse and a statement now and then but prefer the man himself for my political fix, Rush Limbaugh.
189 posted on 02/23/2010 10:48:51 AM PST by OneVike
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To: cva41

You guys on the Midway did the first and last air-to-air kills in ‘Nam...who could forget.


190 posted on 02/23/2010 10:49:06 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Daisyjane69
"I think it's a big mistake and it does nothing to further the Conservative cause."

Unwarranted conjunction. IMO, Beck is not attempting to 'further' the conservative cause; he is attempting to ride it like a wave, while winking to his other constituency.

191 posted on 02/23/2010 10:51:05 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: OneVike

Will we see more boiled frogs on his show?

Sideshow Glenn ...he would have made a fortune on the carnival circuit 50 years ago.

Like the characters played by Bob Hope and Bing Crosby in “Road to Mandalay”.


192 posted on 02/23/2010 10:52:02 AM PST by Palladin ("We are the loyal opposition"~~Sarah Palin)
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To: OneVike

Sounds like the rose colored glasses are falling off Rinos who don’t want to see their time is up. And from Birthers whoa re into Theories.

Beck has done great work against Global Warming. It is sad the infighting, but it is happening.


193 posted on 02/23/2010 10:54:56 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: capt. norm

And yet they called CV59 the “First In Defence.” Gotta run Captain. Don’t let the Prima Donna, “thank you for you service” crowd get on your nerves


194 posted on 02/23/2010 10:56:36 AM PST by cva41
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To: Palladin; OneVike
"Like the characters played by Bob Hope and Bing Crosby in 'Road to Mandalay'"

The debunking touted here reminds me much more of the little song sung by the sheriff in "Best Little Whore House in Texas."

195 posted on 02/23/2010 11:02:47 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor

So, you really really like Glenn Beck.


196 posted on 02/23/2010 11:07:37 AM PST by Palladin ("We are the loyal opposition"~~Sarah Palin)
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To: editor-surveyor

;)


197 posted on 02/23/2010 11:08:35 AM PST by Palladin ("We are the loyal opposition"~~Sarah Palin)
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To: Palladin
Like the characters played by Bob Hope and Bing Crosby in “Road to Mandalay”

You mena "The Road to Singapore" I believe.



The title of "The Road to Singapore" was changed from "the Road to Mandalay" as it was felt to be in conflict with an evergreen popular song, that could possibly cause confusion among potential viewers.(info via The Internet Movie database.)

Of course you could have meant Lon Chaney's classic horror flick by the same name, “The Road to Mandalay”. After all we are living through a real life horror show today in America.


198 posted on 02/23/2010 11:14:27 AM PST by OneVike
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To: editor-surveyor
he is attempting to ride it like a wave, while winking to his other constituency.

He's serving another constituency by exposing them?

Oh yeah, you're relly on to something there.

199 posted on 02/23/2010 11:16:30 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: OneVike

Yes—that’s it. Bob and Bing were carnival guys who tried every trick in the book at the carnival in Brooklyn (Coney Island) until they ended up burning down the place and going on the lam on a steamer.

I saw it recently on TCM. Amazing how they could be so funny with never a bad word or a vulgar reference!


200 posted on 02/23/2010 11:18:53 AM PST by Palladin ("We are the loyal opposition"~~Sarah Palin)
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