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Meet kinder, gentler Glenn Beck: New 'global warming' believer
WorldNetDaily ^ | 2/23/10 | MediaMatters

Posted on 02/23/2010 7:15:43 AM PST by OneVike

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To: Mr. Lucky
This thread, and most of the comments posted to it, are a metaphor for why conservatism has been unable to remain a dominant political force.

Amen FRiend.

Too many seeking perfection from everyone who is on our side. Have one different opinion (I believe this article is bunk) use a chalk board or weep for your Country on TV and your outta there.

Sheesh.

51 posted on 02/23/2010 7:46:53 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: OneVike

Please stop the madness! This article is complete hogwash. Maybe if the Beck bashers would simply get a few of their facts straight first... but then they would have very little to bash Beck with.


52 posted on 02/23/2010 7:49:54 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: riri

It’s a hit piece full of lies.


53 posted on 02/23/2010 7:50:04 AM PST by imskylark
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To: Dead Corpse

In typical Alinsky fashion that some of you tend to forget....”Pick a target, freeze it....”
NOTICE the WND article is “tagged” to MEDIA MATTERS. The George Soros funded democratic leftist group!

“Progressivism” was the topic; not hacking at conservatives. Yes there ARE Progressive Republicans...we affectionately call RINOS.
DO NOT jump on this bandwagon.....Ever heard of divide and conquer? The Leftists are out to conquer the Tea Party movement by dividing the ranks.
Be careful...

Progressivism = Communism


54 posted on 02/23/2010 7:50:06 AM PST by catydoodle
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Good point. How many times has the object of this attack pushed a valid issue that the media would not otherwise touch. A lot of issues have gone viral because he pushed.


55 posted on 02/23/2010 7:51:27 AM PST by cva41
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To: OneVike

If we’re not smart enough to avoid this sort of divide and conquer crap, with everything that’s on the line, we deserve to perish.


56 posted on 02/23/2010 7:51:35 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: imskylark; Dead Corpse
I see that now. Helps when you read a little more than five sentences. (:

I am just SO used to being disappointed by principle lacking people, that I guess I just sort of expect it.

57 posted on 02/23/2010 7:52:20 AM PST by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: Irenic

“How can it be debunked, it’s in the article at USA weekend”

So, if its in print, it must be true? According to your logic, man-made GW is true, Obama is messiah is true, etc...


58 posted on 02/23/2010 7:55:13 AM PST by imskylark
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To: riri
I'm not saying Beck doesn't have blemishes. He could very well turn coat on us at some point.

It's just not in evidence right now...

59 posted on 02/23/2010 7:56:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Pantera
The problem is that when a candidate that supports state sovereignty and individual freedom emerges he demonizes the candidate.

Which candidate are you referring too?

I listen to talkers to gleen as much information as I can, I never in my life rejected or supported a candidate base on what some one on the radio or TV said if some do that is their problem. I pretty much thought that's what dems do.

60 posted on 02/23/2010 7:56:24 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: OneVike
" "You'd be an idiot not to notice the temperature change..." "

Anyone who believes this planet's temperature did not fluctuate before the industrial age is an idiot. In Glenn's case, a dramatic idiot.

61 posted on 02/23/2010 7:56:48 AM PST by OKSooner (NoMoBHO)
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To: OneVike

In all seriousness, I think Glenn is suffering from a form of PTSD, caused by his long battle of fighting off the liberals. His brain chemistry has gone way outta whack.


62 posted on 02/23/2010 7:58:54 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: cva41
Thanks, too many concentrate on negatives instead of positives.

Quite illogical considering Conservative are the ones who usually use their heads.

63 posted on 02/23/2010 7:59:40 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: OneVike
I just happened to see that article in the Sunday paper...someone left at work.

My first thought...was WHY would Beck agree to it. He should be savvy enough to know...it's going to get twisted some.

That said, some of his supposed answers and statements were somewhat surprising...

Beck serves a purpose....he's just too goofy for me. Can't listen to him....

64 posted on 02/23/2010 8:00:07 AM PST by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I think we are all people who put our own families and careers first.

Perhaps I didn’t say this the way I intended it, so let me try again.

I believe that the most important outcome for Glenn Beck, is the wellbeing of Glenn Beck. While he presents himself as a historian, he is nothing of the sort. By his own admission, he didn’t know how treacherous W.Wilson was until a couple years ago. Yikes! To be sure, he is a quick study on many things, but he makes me uneasy. I do not, for one second, believe he is on the conservative side. I believe he is on the Glenn Beck Side. What worries me more than anything else is that he is starting to believe his own press clippings. He makes me nervous. And I don’t want him speaking for true conservatives, and being the face of conservatism.

He’s not a scholar in any way. I routinely see him steal the research of others and it bothers me. This is a moral, a character flaw. And I think him taking liberties with such things is the reason he can poop out a book every couple month. I’ve known people who authored books...most take a couple years to do. Someone who writes as fast as he claims to, with a radio show, a family, and a TV show can’t possibly do it himself, unless he “borrows” from others.

I think he is a PT Barnum entertainer, and conservatives should tread lightly.


65 posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:37 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Dead Corpse
This was debunked twice yesterday. Whirled Nut Daisey at is again...

Ya, and this isn't the first time this accusation has been thrown out and debunked. I wish people would research a little before knee jerk reaction posts!

66 posted on 02/23/2010 8:03:33 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Pantera

She did that all on her own...


67 posted on 02/23/2010 8:04:15 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: imskylark
Why in the heck would Beck agree to be interviewed by USA Weekend?

Not very smart....IMO.

68 posted on 02/23/2010 8:05:02 AM PST by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: cva41
What is it with all of these hit pieces. Is a “bunker buddy” conspiracy afoot?

Beck is one of a rare few who is properly informing the public about who and what we have in the White House today. They are the revolutionary communist left. Jerk O'Reilly STILL doesn't get it and continues to mock the guy. Beck acts kooky only for the 'entertainment value', to keep people with short attention spans and other learning disibilities interested long enough to perhaps learn something about the subject. However, I do think he needs to drop the overly emotional stuff.

69 posted on 02/23/2010 8:05:58 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Daisyjane69

If thr fellow has stolen the intellectual property of others he should served and taken to court. There’s a lot of information o out there that some claim as their own for the ratings game. I don’t have a dog in this race, it just kind of bothers me to see a coordinated hit-job on a radio host. I mean the guy had the boycot thing after Van Jones, now this.


70 posted on 02/23/2010 8:08:23 AM PST by cva41
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To: cva41
I mean the guy had the boycot thing after Van Jones

RE: Obama's (former) "Green Jobs Czar", Van Jones

Van Jones became a revolutionary communist following the 1992 L.A./Rodney King Riots (58 dead)
various sources

Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:19:07 AM by ETL

"Jones was arrested during the L.A. riots and spent a short time in jail. "I met all these young radical people of color," he recalls, 'I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, "This is what I need to be a part of." I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.'..."

By the late 1990s, Jones was a committed Marxist-Leninist-Maoist who viewed police officers as the arch-enemies of black people, and who loathed capitalism for allegedly exploiting nonwhite minorities worldwide. He became a leading member of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a now-defunct Bay Area Marxist-Maoist collective that was staffed by members of various local nonprofits, a number of whom had ties to the Ella Baker Center.

In the early 2000s, Jones and STORM were active in the anti-Iraq War demonstrations organized by International ANSWER, a front group for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party. STORM also had ties to the South African Communist Party and it revered Amilcar Cabral, the late Marxist revolutionary leader (of Guinea-Bissau and the Cape Verde Islands) who lauded Lenin as "the greatest champion of the national liberation of the peoples." (In 2006 Van Jones would name his own newborn son "Cabral" -- in Amilcar Cabral's honor.)"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2333342/posts
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"Jones was arrested during the L.A. riots and spent a short time in jail. 'I met all these young radical people of color,' he recalls, 'I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'..."

From David Horowitz's FrontpageMag.com /DiscoverTheNetworks.org:

"Throughout its history, one of RCP's [Revolutionary Communist Party] principal objectives has been to foment civil unrest in the United States. The most notable example of such efforts occurred on April 29, 1992, when RCP members looted and trashed the downtown and government districts of Los Angeles, triggering the infamous Rodney King riots. During the days immediately preceding the violence, RCP -- which maintained close ties to the L.A. gangs known as the Crips and the Bloods -- had circulated throughout South Central Los Angeles a leaflet featuring a statement by RCP National Spokesman Carl Dix, titled 'It's Right To Rebel' -- a quote popularized by Mao Zedong.

Encouraged by Dix, RCP activists helped lead the riots that would leave 58 people dead, more than 2,300 people injured, some 5,300 buildings burned, and $1 billion in property damaged or destroyed. On the ten-year anniversary of the rioting, RCP member Joseph Veale fondly recalled the violence as 'the most beautiful, the most heroic civil action in the history of the United States.'"
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197

71 posted on 02/23/2010 8:11:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: stockpirate

No 12” of snow here in North Central Texas....just a mere dusting. Even the most drastic forecast calls for no more than 4” of the white stuff.


72 posted on 02/23/2010 8:11:44 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: ETL

I can’t argue with that. He’s a bonehead....but an interesting one with good info.


73 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:22 AM PST by cva41
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To: ETL

bookmark


74 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:39 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

I heard this morning they are calling for 12” north of Dallas.


75 posted on 02/23/2010 8:14:30 AM PST by stockpirate (Hey Beck, Thomas Jefferson was a birther!)
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To: OneVike; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; 2nd Amendment; 9YearLurker; andy58-in-nh; Arizona Carolyn; ...

I’ve never had any particular admiration for Beck.

He’s obnoxious, coarse, and somewhat simple. - He appears easily influenced, and frequently vacillating.

Beck is clearly not “his own man,” but until this foolish crack in his shell, it hasn’t been completely obvious who he belonged to.

No questions now!


76 posted on 02/23/2010 8:18:56 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Daisyjane69
You sound like you take the man too seriously and need people to influence your opinions. No, Genn is not a historian and self admittedly just got into it, but he's learned certain aspects of it pretty well and does a good job of presenting it and deserve a certain amount of credit for doing so

But I'll tell you this, even the most ardent student of history doesn't know it all, in fact they learn something new every day so why not focus on what he is bringing to light rather than be so quick to put him down for the littlest thing.

As far a him using other people for sources, don't we all.? I have yet to see him plagiarize any one have you?

Glenn brags about his research staff all of the time, does that mean he's stealing their work too.

Lighten up and be glad for what he is doing, we need all we can get if we're going to defeat the cancer that has invaded our country.

Hell, if we can't even unite for a common cause to try and fix this Country how on earth are we ever going to succeed?

77 posted on 02/23/2010 8:20:28 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: ETL

Great information that I will download and keep for future references. One suggestions though. Reduce the size of your graphs. I had to enlarge my window to the point that the writing is way too small to read, just to see the graph.


78 posted on 02/23/2010 8:20:50 AM PST by OneVike
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To: OneVike

“Hit piece” is hardly an appropriate term to use for important news.


79 posted on 02/23/2010 8:21:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: OneVike

I haven’t watched Beck on FNC, but the very first clip I ever saw of Beck on YouTube was him making it clear that “AGW” was a scam and that Gore was wrong.

This article seems like a mindless distortion if not a blatant lie.


80 posted on 02/23/2010 8:22:03 AM PST by spodefly (I have posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: OneVike
"You'd be an idiot not to notice the temperature change," he says.

Poor dope.
81 posted on 02/23/2010 8:22:04 AM PST by aruanan
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To: editor-surveyor

Important news from world NUT daily.

I hear Orly has gone to the UN for protection. LOL


82 posted on 02/23/2010 8:22:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: mbarker12474

Ok, you can read it too. (you need not beg next time)


83 posted on 02/23/2010 8:23:14 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: spodefly
This article seems like a mindless distortion if not a blatant lie.

It is.
84 posted on 02/23/2010 8:23:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: Dead Corpse
"This was debunked twice yesterday."

Uhh, no, not to the intelligent.

85 posted on 02/23/2010 8:24:36 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor
I’ve never had any particular admiration for Beck. He’s obnoxious, coarse, and somewhat simple.

And which other prominent conservative talk show host comes close to his ability to get the facts out about the revolutionary communists now running our country? Hannity misses about 90% of it. O'Reilly is a lost-cause complete idiot.

86 posted on 02/23/2010 8:25:20 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Double Tap

I think we can agree on this part:

- The question was fair
- Her answered sucked

Just beware that Beck spent the next 7 days demonizing her falsely on tv and radio:

- He positioned her as a “Total Government” candidate -— a complete lie

- She was on Mark Davis and said she thought the question was ridiculous and she laughed it off... Beck played answer #2 to the question instead of #1 to call her a liar... a complete fraudulent play

- Sarah Palin has made similar comments and Beck still loves her

- Her general platform of small govt is in total alignment with what Beck has been preaching for a year, yet he grabs on to one issue (and IMO one flubbed answer) and runs with it attempting to bury her (a state level candidate)

You have to ask yourself why he went to such lengths to demonize a state candidate, that is in 3rd place while losing 500,000 viewers?

I just hope people keep their eyes open and don’t just blindly follow Beck as we head into 2010 election. BTW, I was a major fan of his a week ago...


87 posted on 02/23/2010 8:26:04 AM PST by Pantera
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To: OneVike

I don’t think the rose colored glasses are off. I think Beck is becoming enamored with fame and fortune. Rush had to fight this and one way was to get out of New York. It also helped that he was savagely attacked by the left and he knew early on he would never be anything more than a useful idiot no matter how much he agreed with them. Beck needs to get his head right with ball, and fast or he will never be trusted by either side.


88 posted on 02/23/2010 8:26:13 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: cva41

To be honest with you, I am not certain how anyone would make a claim.

Here is how I judge (and you can use your own methods, of course):

A couple of weeks ago there was an exclusive sent to Pamela Geller on Atlas Shruggs...about Obama’s minions recruiting students to his so-called civilian army. (grrrr). The documents were snail mailed to her from a parent of a student; she had both the student and parent’s name and in fact the parent answered questions on her site. This was an event that happened over a weekend.

On either Monday or Tuesday of the next week, GB used the exact same information, including the documents snail mailed to Pamela Geller and he posted them on his TV show without any attribution at all. He showed the documents on his video wall. This left the distinct impression that he and his staff had uncovered them on their own. The viewers had no way of knowing that the parents and student involved got this news in the hands of Pamela Geller, NOT Glenn Beck.

This happened within the last three weeks.

He presents a lot of work as his own, and when it isn’t his, and I KNOW it isn’t, I’m bothered. I don’t know if the bloggers are going to be willing to take him down or not. He’s big now; they might decide to let him twist himself.

But if they decide to so, he’ll be right next to Obama:

“The Emperor has no clothes”


89 posted on 02/23/2010 8:26:16 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: editor-surveyor

It’s not enough to be just “intelligent”. You also need to be honest, awake, and paying attention.


90 posted on 02/23/2010 8:27:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
"Obviously he his hitting some raw nerves and stirring up a lot of jealousy."

Joining the global oligarchy in attempting to shove a ten trillion per year tax down the people's throats will tend to hit a few very raw nerves.

Jealuosy is not the word; it's OUTRAGE!

91 posted on 02/23/2010 8:28:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: aruanan
Re: "You'd be an idiot not to notice the temperature change," he says.

Poor dope.

Please see the series of posts I added beginning at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2457445/posts?page=26#26

92 posted on 02/23/2010 8:29:37 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AppyPappy
"He must be making money. GW is a rich man’s game"

Right on Pappy! - - The only way to make money these days is to "Go along to get along."

93 posted on 02/23/2010 8:30:30 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Mr. Lucky
This thread, and most of the comments posted to it, are a metaphor for why conservatism has been unable to remain a dominant political force.

Absolutely right. There are those that seem intent on picking Beck apart, and even lies and obvious distortions are OK so long as it meets the need to tear him down.

94 posted on 02/23/2010 8:30:33 AM PST by spodefly (I have posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

yes I have seen him plagarize someone. Please scroll back on my comments, fella.

I don’t trust him. Perhaps down the road, but I don’t right now.


95 posted on 02/23/2010 8:31:45 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: OneVike
One suggestions though. Reduce the size of your graphs. I had to enlarge my window to the point that the writing is way too small to read, just to see the graph.

Sorry, I'll try shrinking them and then taking a screen shot.

Thanks for the feedback! It's difficult to anticipate how other computer systems will view things.

96 posted on 02/23/2010 8:32:51 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: editor-surveyor
Jealuosy is not the word; it's OUTRAGE!

Amen, but I was referring to his critics.

But I also bet they're outraged that some one would bring it up.

97 posted on 02/23/2010 8:33:29 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: editor-surveyor

I actually used that term because until I actually here more about it I could not be sure of the facts behind it. I know that WND can stretch the facts to fit their purpose at times. So if Farah is a supporter of Romney as some have said and Farah is hitting back for Becks criticism of Romney then I would tend to think it could be a hot piece.

I also agree with those that say Beck should never ever agree to sit down with the MSM for an interview. He has got to know they will be attempting to write a hit piece.

Mat 10:16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

Glen was not very wise to sit down for this interview, which does make me wonder about his ability to last. Rush has lasted far beyond anyones imagination when you consider the hits he has taken, but he too had to learn the hard way about the MSM.

Imagine all the talking heads that have come and gon e in the time Rush has dominated talk radio.


98 posted on 02/23/2010 8:34:39 AM PST by OneVike
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To: editor-surveyor
No questions for YOU!


99 posted on 02/23/2010 8:34:55 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Most bashers here have never watched Beck extensively or listened to him.
Similar to the smears against Rush also, out of context.
100 posted on 02/23/2010 8:35:37 AM PST by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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