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Study: Smokers Have Lower IQs Than Non-Smokers
Fox News ^ | 2/23/10

Posted on 02/23/2010 11:38:41 AM PST by nickcarraway

Cigarette smokers have lower IQs than non-smokers, and the more a person smokes, the lower their IQ, a study in over 20,000 Israeli military recruits suggests.

Young men who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day or more had IQ scores 7.5 points lower than non-smokers, Dr. Mark Weiser of Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer and his colleagues found.

"Adolescents with poorer IQ scores might be targeted for programs designed to prevent smoking," they conclude in the journal Addiction.

Slideshow: Celebrities Who Quit Smoking

While there is evidence for a link between smoking and lower IQ, many studies have relied on intelligence tests given in childhood, and have also included people with mental and behavioral problems, who are both more likely to smoke and more likely to have low IQs, Weiser and his team note in their report.

To better understand the smoking-IQ relationship, the researchers looked at 20,211 18-year-old men recruited into the Israeli military. The group did not include anyone with major mental health problems, because these individuals are disqualified from military service.

According to the investigators, 28 percent of the study participants smoked at least one cigarette a day, around 3 percent said they were ex-smokers, and 68 percent had never smoked.

The smokers had significantly lower intelligence test scores than non-smokers, and this remained true even after the researchers accounted for socioeconomic status as measured by how many years of formal education a recruit's father had completed.

The average IQ for non-smokers was about 101, while it was 94 for men who had started smoking before entering the military. IQ steadily dropped as the number of cigarettes smoked increased, from 98 for people who smoked one to five cigarettes daily to 90 for those who smoked more than a pack a day.

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1 posted on 02/23/2010 11:38:42 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

In before the Obama pics...


2 posted on 02/23/2010 11:39:38 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

You’ve left us speechless! LOL!!!


3 posted on 02/23/2010 11:40:36 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: WestwardHo

I wonder if this means I’ve gotten smarter over the years? :D


4 posted on 02/23/2010 11:41:41 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: nickcarraway

>> The average IQ for non-smokers was about 101, while it was 94

Yet, the murdering professor apparently has an IQ of 180. Twice is smart - yet, infinitely more idiotic.

Seems to me that smoking saves lives.


5 posted on 02/23/2010 11:42:16 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Ueriah

Smoking less? See there!


6 posted on 02/23/2010 11:43:44 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: nickcarraway

Smarter people make better decisions.


7 posted on 02/23/2010 11:44:22 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: nickcarraway
Tobacco Madness
8 posted on 02/23/2010 11:44:46 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: nickcarraway

I guess I am real stupid. Who knew?


9 posted on 02/23/2010 11:45:10 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: nickcarraway

All I know is I went the other way. When I quit smoking (cold turkey), I turned into a mouth breather. I developed the attention span of a gerbil. Coherent lengthy conversation with me was impossible. It was so bad my wife hauled me into the doctor’s office, “Look at him! He’s a vegetable!” Turns out nicotine was the only thing that kept those synapses firing like spark plugs in Ferrari. On the up side I’m more easily amused now, and I’ll live longer.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 11:47:33 AM PST by PowderMonkey
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To: nickcarraway
An IQ test isn't necessary...

11 posted on 02/23/2010 11:48:54 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY)
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To: nickcarraway

i have been smoking for 40 years.......IQ is 132.....suck it libs...


12 posted on 02/23/2010 11:49:35 AM PST by joe fonebone (CPAC.....Commies Playing At Conservatism)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

“Who knew?”

Incoming! Incoming!
What you make lack in the intelligence quotient, you make up in courage! LOL!


13 posted on 02/23/2010 11:50:49 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: nickcarraway
Salem: Don't inhale 'em.

14 posted on 02/23/2010 11:51:09 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MrEdd

I'm not going to argue with their well-researched claim.

15 posted on 02/23/2010 11:51:13 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: nickcarraway

“Cigarette smokers have lower IQs than non-smokers, and the more a person smokes, the lower their IQ,”

Or, maybe, the lower the IQ, the more they smoked?


16 posted on 02/23/2010 11:51:58 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: nickcarraway

Are they sure these weren’t pot smokers?


17 posted on 02/23/2010 11:55:34 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: Pollster1

and pole smoking drops it even lower!


18 posted on 02/23/2010 11:55:53 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: nickcarraway

I smoked 2 or 3 packs a day for 40 years. Quit cold turkey (the ONLY way to quit) in 1999.

I guess I’m in big trouble.


19 posted on 02/23/2010 11:57:26 AM PST by upchuck (The horse is in the pasture. The barn door is wide-open. Obama wants to know who made the hinges.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t believe it. I don’t trust the no-smoking police to tell the truth.

These are the same people who lie about second-hand-smoke.


20 posted on 02/23/2010 12:01:01 PM PST by donna (SarahPAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: nickcarraway

It appears that almost everyone they arrest on any episode of Cops or Dog the bounty hunter is a smoker... lol...correlation?


21 posted on 02/23/2010 12:04:01 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Those who claim to be open and tolerant are often only open to their own views, not yours)
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To: nickcarraway
Dumber? Most likely.

Cooler? Most definitely.
22 posted on 02/23/2010 12:04:48 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: nickcarraway

Gotta be stupid to smoke.


23 posted on 02/23/2010 12:06:13 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: nickcarraway

I thought that IQ tests were not accurate anymore?


24 posted on 02/23/2010 12:06:41 PM PST by Lazlo in PA
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To: nickcarraway

25 posted on 02/23/2010 12:13:26 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: ColdWater
Indeed. An excellent point.

When causality **might** be bi-directional, it is a classic error in formal logic to conclude, absent other evidence, that one or the other direction of causality is correct. If anyone cares, this fallacy is an instance of what is known technically as 'violation of disjunction'.

Then, of course, this article is also subject to the well-known objection that 'correlation is not causality', aka post hoc ergo propter hoc.

In short, I think people would be well-advised to simply take the correlation data at face value, and avoid drawing these sorts of conclusions. Assuming of course (which might be dangerous, these days) that the study was conducted scrupulously by individuals without a sociopolitical agenda.

26 posted on 02/23/2010 12:13:32 PM PST by SAJ
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To: nickcarraway

It is absolutely amazing that somehow throughout the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries, a period that saw the world transformed through major scientific discoveries leading to undreamed of creature comforts, people smoked and we somehow got to this thriving and prosperous stage.

I suppose we’d be that much further ahead if no one had smoked during that time.


27 posted on 02/23/2010 12:16:25 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: MrEdd; All
"In before the Obama pics..."


28 posted on 02/23/2010 12:20:34 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: nickcarraway
Smoking may be a measure of IQ, but not of courage and character:
29 posted on 02/23/2010 12:23:47 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: nickcarraway
...a study in over 20,000 Israeli military recruits suggests.
The study doesn't show/prove it, it just suggests it. Weasel words!

I'd like to suggest where they can stick their study...where the sun doesn't shine.

30 posted on 02/23/2010 12:30:07 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah right....then how about all them smart folks who smoked for years before the nanny state?????


31 posted on 02/23/2010 12:37:33 PM PST by the long march
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To: MikeWUSAF

Except in those it doesn’t. Not all lung cancer is from smoking. My grandmother NEVER smoked a day in her life and yet....While her daughter smoked all of her adult life. They lived to be the same age. My auntie passed away from what doctors called old age. ( and had no cancer of any sort). My mother who smoked and then quit passed away from vaginal cancer -—hardly associated with smoking.


32 posted on 02/23/2010 12:40:26 PM PST by the long march
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To: nickcarraway

And if he hadn’t smoked a pipe I guess Einstein would have been REEEELY smart!


33 posted on 02/23/2010 12:43:04 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Ueriah

Must be, I used to smoke, I am no more brilliant now than I was then! /s

I wonder who smokes the most? The Obama voters or the McCain voters?

I really should not have asked that question.


34 posted on 02/23/2010 12:50:33 PM PST by dforest
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To: WestwardHo

“Who knew?”

Incoming! Incoming!
What you make lack in the intelligence quotient, you make up in courage! LOL!

When your hung like a mule, does it really matter how smart you are?


35 posted on 02/23/2010 12:50:58 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: nickcarraway
*sigh*

More ignorance of simple statistics.

Fact #1: no two groups will EVER be exactly the same in IQ, shoe size, height, salary, average SSN, and/or commute time, or any other attribute that can be boiled down to a numeric value.

Fact #2: This "disparity" is often not even statistically significant, and virtually never says ANYTHING about those two groups, because A) "Correlation does not equal causation", and B) the group that is ahead/on top/higher this year may very likely be the group that's behind/below/lower next year.

Fact #3: Journalism majors will print ANY headline to get attention, whether it is factual, logical, or even related to the following text.

36 posted on 02/23/2010 12:53:04 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: the long march
Except in those it doesn’t. Not all lung cancer is from smoking. My grandmother NEVER smoked a day in her life and yet....While her daughter smoked all of her adult life. They lived to be the same age. My auntie passed away from what doctors called old age. ( and had no cancer of any sort). My mother who smoked and then quit passed away from vaginal cancer -—hardly associated with smoking.

Not ALL but the MAJORITY of lung cancer cases can be linked to smoking.
37 posted on 02/23/2010 12:58:39 PM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY)
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To: donna

and have now created “third hand smoke”. I typed for a pulmonologist who always went out of his way to blame any lung cancer on smoking. Crazy. A 90 year old with a dad who had smoked died of “second hand smoke lung cancer”. Yeah right. These scientists are just like the GW scientists, not really scientists but agenda driven.


38 posted on 02/23/2010 1:16:06 PM PST by libbylu ( Palin begins from Wasilla not only a campaign, an Iditarod of a crusade ....YEAH!)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Dear Mr Mule,
The last time I saw anything hung was after we shot an elk. We hung it in a tree to age, skin, and butcher.
Signed, Grandma


39 posted on 02/23/2010 1:24:24 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: nickcarraway

Pure BS, they might make a poor choice to continue smoking with the government taxing them so heavy for it, and knowing the health risk, but IQ is not a factor. My late husband had a 130 IQ, he knew the risk, and couldn’t get off them after nearly 35 years doing smoking.


40 posted on 02/23/2010 1:47:51 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: libbylu

First/second/third hand smoke...and global warming. All the same type of scam.


41 posted on 02/23/2010 1:51:55 PM PST by donna (SarahPAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: nickcarraway

OK, I’ll play. I bet I can show that US Marines have lower IQ’s than the US Air Force. Why? Because more ground pounders smoke than pilots.

Statistics can show anything.

This study is pure BS.


42 posted on 02/23/2010 2:23:35 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: MikeWUSAF

Inspite of what you have been told by the surgeon general, the under lying statistics in the study do not support that conclusion.

I am not suggesting by any means that smoking is a good thing. I just think that as bad as the ‘science’ is on this to say that it is CAUSAL is wrong


43 posted on 02/23/2010 2:32:17 PM PST by the long march
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To: nickcarraway

I notice they specify only cigarette smokers.

So, applying the current rules of agenda-driven “science”, this must mean that those of us that electively, but regularly, puff on fat, black Maduros are of course, off the charts Intels who can spontaneously levitate via sheer neuronal prowess.


44 posted on 02/23/2010 2:37:42 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: libbylu

If second hand smoke causes cancer, young smokers should be dying like flies and there should be no long time smokers.


45 posted on 02/23/2010 2:43:48 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: the long march
Inspite of what you have been told by the surgeon general, the under lying statistics in the study do not support that conclusion. I am not suggesting by any means that smoking is a good thing. I just think that as bad as the ‘science’ is on this to say that it is CAUSAL is wrong

I don't need the surgeon general to tell me anything. My personal experience of watching family and friends who were smokers die from lung cancer, as well as my wife's experience as a medical professional, unequivocally confirm for me that smoking causes lung cancer. The fact is that not ALL lung cancer cases are caused by smoking, just the VAST MAJORITY of them.
46 posted on 02/23/2010 3:00:19 PM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s really pathetic to see smoking Nazis emerge from their shells on these threads.

they spend most of their time decrying government interference over our privates lives and laughing at such things as Michelle Obama’s crusade against fat.

(well, I laugh at that as well)

But confronted with someone smoking or the thought of someone smoking, they would gladly sign on to a law forbidding this anywhere. We’ve gone a long way down that ugly road already.

When I made a similar comment on another thread posting this study (it was posted yesterday), I was accused of something horrible.

I was accused of being a ... gasp ... smoker. I am not and never have been. I just hate the hyprocrisy of the smoking nazis.


47 posted on 02/23/2010 3:09:57 PM PST by altura
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To: nickcarraway

Been smoking for 50 years (not bragging just stating a fact) but I did miss being a Mensa member by 2 points so I guess I am dumb..


48 posted on 02/23/2010 4:41:49 PM PST by goat granny
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To: nickcarraway

Two of the most intelligent people I know, mother and son, both smoke like chimneys.


49 posted on 02/23/2010 6:46:10 PM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: MrEdd
In before the Obama pics...

I clicked on this thread for one reason only. :p

50 posted on 02/24/2010 1:13:49 AM PST by Lonely Bull
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