Skip to comments.The HomoCon Tipping Point: Why CPAC Was a Milestone Weekend for Gays
Posted on 02/23/2010 12:24:11 PM PST by DesertRenegade
(excerpt) This moment at CPAC is even more important for the conservative movement as it happened at an important time when there is already a generational change going on in America. Boomers are fading, Xers are ruling, and Millenials are finding their way. Forty-eight percent of those who participated in the CPAC straw poll last week identified themselves as students. They are the future of conservativism. And they shouted down an anti-gay bigot.
There will surely be other homocon-related clashes within the conservative movement, just as the Democrat Party has regularly used the gay community as pawns in their re-election schemes for decades. But as the late gay political icon Harvey Milk, who started out as a Republican, famously said:
Gay people, we will not win our rights by staying silently in our closets We are coming out. We are coming out to fight the lies, the myths, the distortions. We are coming out to tell the truths about gays, for I am tired of the conspiracy of silence, so Im going to talk about it. And I want you to talk about it. You must come out. Come out to your parents, your relatives.
Last week at CPAC we saw the many years of work by dedicated conservative gays and lesbians standing up for their values and the principles of freedom and liberty finally pay off. There was a tipping point for gays in America last week at CPAC. It happened because they have been coming out to their parents, friends and relatives over time
as American conservatives who just happen to be gay.
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I usually respect Andrew Breitbart - but I don’t understand why he is pushing this stuff on his site. Conservatism has to do with the integrity and character of the whole person, not just some outer, surface facade. Scratch the surface of any homosexual activist and what you get is exactly what this Bruce Carroll guy is arguing.
Isn’t he gay? Or is only Drudge?
If they’re the future of conservatism, maybe I’m not a “conservative” anymore...
They are basically libertarians, and that’s not the same as conservatives.
Supposedly, conservatism got punked. Well shoot, anybody can open up a forum and call it conservative and let screaming liberals right in the door.
Like Mark Twain is reported to have said, “The report of my demise has been greatly exaggerated.”
Maybe they don't like seeing the economy wrecked any more than straight people.
The explanation is clear, and has been for some time:
2 Thessalonians 2:11 (New International Version)
“For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie”
Both events are meaningless, both are due to the hall being filled with young energetic Paul bots.
Keep the Ron Paul kooks out, keep homosexual activists out, and the "crowd" response would have been cheers not jeers.
A tipping off point is more like it. Is Breitbart flaking off like a Smerconish or a Charles Johnson?
Anyone who thinks CPAC represented conservatism is out of their mind.
They did the same thing to the Catholic Church. They infiltrated as priests, abused young boys, and bankrupted many Dioceses. (I am not absolving the Church since they should have done something once they knew). I believe they were called the Pink Mafia and came out of Georgetown University.
You are correct is that the Conservative movement can only succeed if it only includes those people that are morally pure.
Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay, those who have had abortions, those who have ever used illegal drugs, those who have had premarital sex and those who have torn those annoying tags off of their pillows.
Medea Benjamin from Code Pink was screaming out something in the crowd too-if 30 of here friends bought tickets and did the same, would this writer think that makes conservatives anti-war now?
“To say that the conservative movement has embraced homosexuality due to the boos of the crowd makes as much sense as saying it has endorsed Ron Paul because he won the straw poll.”
I noticed the same thing. The crowd was disproportionately filled with college aged kids who specifically came there just to promote Ron Paul. I’m curious if they had to pay the regular registration price as the rest of us or if they somehow scammed their way in.
They should change their name to ButtPAC.
Makes it clear which bigotry he subscribe to.
yeah, a MILLSTONE weekend .............
“You are correct is that the Conservative movement can only succeed if it only includes those people that are morally pure. Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay, those who have had abortions, those who have ever used illegal drugs, those who have had premarital sex and those who have torn those annoying tags off of their pillows.”
I never said anything of the sort. But should conservatism welcome and embrace those who SUPPORT and are PRIDEFUL of abortion, drug abuse, or homosexuality? Liberals constantly try to spin it that we are condemning sinners. But that is total B.S. There is a difference between someone who makes a mistake or has a bad habit and a group that is based on PRIDE and NORMALIZATION of deviance.
I say, ignore the gays and forge on with getting rid of the commies aka democrats.
Remember, our party should not be about catering to any group, but about conservative values. That is why we need a platform that we agree on. That platform does not cater to any special interest.
This is what happens when a party tries to split people up and cater to their whims.
I think you are confusing the idea to “not invite those promoting immorality” vs. “only inviting the morally pure”. Those are two wildly different ideas.
If we invite those promoting homosexuality, we therefore, should invite those who promote abortions, those who promote illegal drugs, those who promote premarital sex and those who promote tearing those annoying tags off of their pillows.
“Libertarian = Barking moonbat liberal..”
Uh, you might wanna check your sources on that.
Belief that gvt should get out of almost everything = “liberal” to you?
CPAC wants a “big tent.” Well, they keep forgetting that when the tent includes and embraces Sodomites, social conservatives will leave.
I don’t want abortion enthusiasts (or the abortion agenda), sexual libertines (or the porn agenda), homosexuals (or the homosexual agenda) or junkies (or the promotion of recreational drug use) in the Republican party.
They can vote Republican if they want. But I don’t want them as delegates, or on the platform committee, or as candidates.
The pillow tag rippers can stay.
Exactly. I have never seen a group called AlchyPride or AdulteryPride which is proud of their behavior and wants it normalized and embraced.
Libertines maybe, not libertarians.
“If they’re the future of conservatism, maybe I’m not a “conservative’” anymore...”
Same here. But actually this isn’t conservatism,just warmed-over degeneracy parading around as something it isn’t.
Its a generational thing. The majority of folks 25 and under are pro-gay rights and pro-gay marriage. The last survey I showed even showed smaller, though still significant support, among self-described “Christians.”
I notice you had to chop my post.
The only thing they are conservative on is guns and taxes.
Guilty! Though I am admittedly a small "l" libertartian in domestic politics (and a paleorealist in foreign policy).
So many things wrong with this sentence and it's context I have no idea where to begin so I'll outline my thoughts:
What in the world have we let happen in this country....
Rome rotted from within. Want to repeat that in the US? Keep pushing liberalism.
The article warrants a barf alert for that phrase alone. The left is now using "bigot" with respect to homosexuality. Another perversion (pun intended) of the language by the left.
Kind of like how leftists say "pro-choice" when they mean "pro-abortion."
I believe the war on drugs is a failure, and is a complete disregard for the constitution.......does this mean I cannot be a conservative anymore??????
It’s a fine line as I know several gays who work as doctors, military officers, Republican elected officials, attorneys. teachers, engineers and oil field workers and they all do their jobs well and do not advertise their sexuality or promote their lifestyle.
However, even though most of the above mentioned that I know are Republican, they all see conservatives as having an irrational view of homosexuality as each of them and functions well in society.
Nothing like a little hyperbole to move the debate along.
They have stolen the word “gay”... we will not let them have CONSERVATIVE.
Ya know, I have noticed an extreme prejudice against libertarians on this forum lately....I find that there are tenents of the libertarian platform that are dead on constitutional. I took a test (can’t remember the name of it) and I scored right on the conservative / libertarian line...in other words, a true constitutionalist...I guess I have to ask, are conservatives constitutionalist or not????
Jeez i was morally pure until the tags on pillows thing,do i have to leave the party?
BTW you do make excellent points..
Not liberal, but simply pointing out that you may not want to banish all those who you do not see as morally pure from the movement as it may be counterproductive.
does not parse
They are good on one other issue: complete privatization of education. Other than that, and the issues you mention, they might as well be San Francisco Democrats: pro-abortion, pro-drug, anti-military, anti-borders.
“Gay people, we will not win our rights by staying silently in our closets We are coming out”
I have sex with women. I just know that everyone was dying to know that.
When you realize that the Islamofascist are attempting a takeover with the MIC, it makes sense. Muslims hate Homosexuals and even allow the killing of such.
Where will they go...Repubs ofcourse. Only sane place in American politics.
“Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay”
They are 2% of the population. They ought not let the door hit them...well, where they’d like it. Butt seriously, you apparantly believe that it is perfectly fine for a group to form under the auspices of “conservatism” in order to push a militant gay agenda.
Why is that?
Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that this is a conservative website, not a Libertarian website. I'm sure there are plenty of other sites where you can chat with the many people in this country who actually vote Libertarian. "Many" being about 1% of the electorate.
“I believe the war on drugs is a failure, and is a complete disregard for the constitution.......does this mean I cannot be a conservative anymore??????”
It means that you are likely a Libertarian, but you either haven’t yet recognized this or you have but realized that that fringe party is going nowhere.