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The HomoCon Tipping Point: Why CPAC Was a Milestone Weekend for Gays
Big Journalism ^ | Feb 23, 2010 | Bruce Carroll

Posted on 02/23/2010 12:24:11 PM PST by DesertRenegade

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So this is what it has come to? Self described Conservatives are now quoting homosexual militant Harvey Milk? There is something drastically wrong with this push by the homosexual activists to claim they are an integral part of Conservative politics. They are pulling one of the most blatant spin jobs in history. Why can't they just support Conservative issues without constantly leading with their bedroom preference? In my opinion, something very devious is going on here.
1 posted on 02/23/2010 12:24:12 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

I usually respect Andrew Breitbart - but I don’t understand why he is pushing this stuff on his site. Conservatism has to do with the integrity and character of the whole person, not just some outer, surface facade. Scratch the surface of any homosexual activist and what you get is exactly what this Bruce Carroll guy is arguing.


2 posted on 02/23/2010 12:27:39 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

Isn’t he gay? Or is only Drudge?


3 posted on 02/23/2010 12:29:55 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: DesertRenegade

If they’re the future of conservatism, maybe I’m not a “conservative” anymore...

They are basically libertarians, and that’s not the same as conservatives.


4 posted on 02/23/2010 12:30:12 PM PST by livius
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To: DesertRenegade

Supposedly, conservatism got punked. Well shoot, anybody can open up a forum and call it conservative and let screaming liberals right in the door.

Like Mark Twain is reported to have said, “The report of my demise has been greatly exaggerated.”


5 posted on 02/23/2010 12:30:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DesertRenegade
Breit's sites also exposed Kevin Jennings, the School Safety Czar. He's Hollywood, remember.

Maybe they don't like seeing the economy wrecked any more than straight people.

6 posted on 02/23/2010 12:31:22 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: DesertRenegade

The explanation is clear, and has been for some time:

2 Thessalonians 2:11 (New International Version)

“For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie”


7 posted on 02/23/2010 12:32:37 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DesertRenegade
To say that the conservative movement has embraced homosexuality due to the boos of the crowd makes as much sense as saying it has endorsed Ron Paul because he won the straw poll.

Both events are meaningless, both are due to the hall being filled with young energetic Paul bots.

Keep the Ron Paul kooks out, keep homosexual activists out, and the "crowd" response would have been cheers not jeers.

8 posted on 02/23/2010 12:32:40 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: livius
Libertarian = Barking moonbat liberal, who happen to like guns but don't like taxes.
9 posted on 02/23/2010 12:33:08 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: DesertRenegade

A tipping off point is more like it. Is Breitbart flaking off like a Smerconish or a Charles Johnson?


10 posted on 02/23/2010 12:33:09 PM PST by bvw
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To: DesertRenegade

Anyone who thinks CPAC represented conservatism is out of their mind.


11 posted on 02/23/2010 12:33:10 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: DesertRenegade

They did the same thing to the Catholic Church. They infiltrated as priests, abused young boys, and bankrupted many Dioceses. (I am not absolving the Church since they should have done something once they knew). I believe they were called the Pink Mafia and came out of Georgetown University.


12 posted on 02/23/2010 12:33:49 PM PST by MattinNJ (Pence/Palin)
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To: DesertRenegade

You are correct is that the Conservative movement can only succeed if it only includes those people that are morally pure.

Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay, those who have had abortions, those who have ever used illegal drugs, those who have had premarital sex and those who have torn those annoying tags off of their pillows.


13 posted on 02/23/2010 12:33:54 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: icwhatudo

Medea Benjamin from Code Pink was screaming out something in the crowd too-if 30 of here friends bought tickets and did the same, would this writer think that makes conservatives anti-war now?


14 posted on 02/23/2010 12:34:17 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: icwhatudo

“To say that the conservative movement has embraced homosexuality due to the boos of the crowd makes as much sense as saying it has endorsed Ron Paul because he won the straw poll.”

I noticed the same thing. The crowd was disproportionately filled with college aged kids who specifically came there just to promote Ron Paul. I’m curious if they had to pay the regular registration price as the rest of us or if they somehow scammed their way in.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 12:34:36 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: GeronL

They should change their name to ButtPAC.


16 posted on 02/23/2010 12:34:56 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: DesertRenegade
"And they shouted down an anti-gay bigot. "

Makes it clear which bigotry he subscribe to.

17 posted on 02/23/2010 12:35:17 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Republic of Texas

Or...Fudgepac


18 posted on 02/23/2010 12:36:18 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: DesertRenegade

yeah, a MILLSTONE weekend .............


19 posted on 02/23/2010 12:36:53 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: trumandogz

“You are correct is that the Conservative movement can only succeed if it only includes those people that are morally pure. Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay, those who have had abortions, those who have ever used illegal drugs, those who have had premarital sex and those who have torn those annoying tags off of their pillows.”

I never said anything of the sort. But should conservatism welcome and embrace those who SUPPORT and are PRIDEFUL of abortion, drug abuse, or homosexuality? Liberals constantly try to spin it that we are condemning sinners. But that is total B.S. There is a difference between someone who makes a mistake or has a bad habit and a group that is based on PRIDE and NORMALIZATION of deviance.


20 posted on 02/23/2010 12:37:11 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

I say, ignore the gays and forge on with getting rid of the commies aka democrats.

Remember, our party should not be about catering to any group, but about conservative values. That is why we need a platform that we agree on. That platform does not cater to any special interest.

This is what happens when a party tries to split people up and cater to their whims.

Means losing.


21 posted on 02/23/2010 12:38:52 PM PST by dforest
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To: trumandogz

I think you are confusing the idea to “not invite those promoting immorality” vs. “only inviting the morally pure”. Those are two wildly different ideas.

If we invite those promoting homosexuality, we therefore, should invite those who promote abortions, those who promote illegal drugs, those who promote premarital sex and those who promote tearing those annoying tags off of their pillows.


22 posted on 02/23/2010 12:40:43 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Beagle8U

“Libertarian = Barking moonbat liberal..”

Uh, you might wanna check your sources on that.

Belief that gvt should get out of almost everything = “liberal” to you?


23 posted on 02/23/2010 12:41:08 PM PST by Pessimist (u)
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To: DesertRenegade

CPAC wants a “big tent.” Well, they keep forgetting that when the tent includes and embraces Sodomites, social conservatives will leave.


24 posted on 02/23/2010 12:41:53 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: DesertRenegade

I don’t want abortion enthusiasts (or the abortion agenda), sexual libertines (or the porn agenda), homosexuals (or the homosexual agenda) or junkies (or the promotion of recreational drug use) in the Republican party.

They can vote Republican if they want. But I don’t want them as delegates, or on the platform committee, or as candidates.

The pillow tag rippers can stay.


25 posted on 02/23/2010 12:42:12 PM PST by Persevero (Satan tries to separate what God puts together and join together what God separates.)
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To: icwhatudo

Exactly. I have never seen a group called AlchyPride or AdulteryPride which is proud of their behavior and wants it normalized and embraced.


26 posted on 02/23/2010 12:42:45 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: livius

Libertines maybe, not libertarians.


27 posted on 02/23/2010 12:44:02 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: livius

“If they’re the future of conservatism, maybe I’m not a “conservative’” anymore...”
Same here. But actually this isn’t conservatism,just warmed-over degeneracy parading around as something it isn’t.


28 posted on 02/23/2010 12:44:29 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: DesertRenegade

Its a generational thing. The majority of folks 25 and under are pro-gay rights and pro-gay marriage. The last survey I showed even showed smaller, though still significant support, among self-described “Christians.”


29 posted on 02/23/2010 12:45:07 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Pessimist

I notice you had to chop my post.

The only thing they are conservative on is guns and taxes.


30 posted on 02/23/2010 12:46:47 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: trumandogz
and those who have torn those annoying tags off of their pillows.

Guilty! Though I am admittedly a small "l" libertartian in domestic politics (and a paleorealist in foreign policy).

31 posted on 02/23/2010 12:47:19 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: DesertRenegade
And they shouted down an anti-gay bigot.

So many things wrong with this sentence and it's context I have no idea where to begin so I'll outline my thoughts:

What in the world have we let happen in this country....

32 posted on 02/23/2010 12:47:28 PM PST by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: trumandogz

Rome rotted from within. Want to repeat that in the US? Keep pushing liberalism.


33 posted on 02/23/2010 12:47:43 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DesertRenegade
...an anti-gay bigot.

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The article warrants a barf alert for that phrase alone. The left is now using "bigot" with respect to homosexuality. Another perversion (pun intended) of the language by the left.

Kind of like how leftists say "pro-choice" when they mean "pro-abortion."

34 posted on 02/23/2010 12:47:52 PM PST by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: DesertRenegade

I believe the war on drugs is a failure, and is a complete disregard for the constitution.......does this mean I cannot be a conservative anymore??????


35 posted on 02/23/2010 12:48:34 PM PST by joe fonebone (CPAC.....Commies Playing At Conservatism)
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To: icwhatudo

It’s a fine line as I know several gays who work as doctors, military officers, Republican elected officials, attorneys. teachers, engineers and oil field workers and they all do their jobs well and do not advertise their sexuality or promote their lifestyle.

However, even though most of the above mentioned that I know are Republican, they all see conservatives as having an irrational view of homosexuality as each of them and functions well in society.


36 posted on 02/23/2010 12:48:53 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay, those who have had abortions, those who have ever used illegal drugs, those who have had premarital sex and those who have torn those annoying tags off of their pillow

Nothing like a little hyperbole to move the debate along.

37 posted on 02/23/2010 12:49:55 PM PST by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: livius

They have stolen the word “gay”... we will not let them have CONSERVATIVE.

LLS


38 posted on 02/23/2010 12:50:54 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Pessimist

Ya know, I have noticed an extreme prejudice against libertarians on this forum lately....I find that there are tenents of the libertarian platform that are dead on constitutional. I took a test (can’t remember the name of it) and I scored right on the conservative / libertarian line...in other words, a true constitutionalist...I guess I have to ask, are conservatives constitutionalist or not????


39 posted on 02/23/2010 12:51:49 PM PST by joe fonebone (CPAC.....Commies Playing At Conservatism)
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To: trumandogz

Jeez i was morally pure until the tags on pillows thing,do i have to leave the party?
BTW you do make excellent points..
Slainte.


40 posted on 02/23/2010 12:52:02 PM PST by GSP.FAN (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Not liberal, but simply pointing out that you may not want to banish all those who you do not see as morally pure from the movement as it may be counterproductive.


41 posted on 02/23/2010 12:52:19 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

does not parse


42 posted on 02/23/2010 12:52:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Beagle8U
The only thing they are conservative on is guns and taxes.

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They are good on one other issue: complete privatization of education. Other than that, and the issues you mention, they might as well be San Francisco Democrats: pro-abortion, pro-drug, anti-military, anti-borders.

43 posted on 02/23/2010 12:52:57 PM PST by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: Republic of Texas

Or CFAG


44 posted on 02/23/2010 12:54:14 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: DesertRenegade

“Gay people, we will not win our rights by staying silently in our closets… We are coming out”

I have sex with women. I just know that everyone was dying to know that.


45 posted on 02/23/2010 12:55:10 PM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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To: DesertRenegade

When you realize that the Islamofascist are attempting a takeover with the MIC, it makes sense. Muslims hate Homosexuals and even allow the killing of such.
Where will they go...Repubs ofcourse. Only sane place in American politics.


46 posted on 02/23/2010 12:56:08 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: GeronL

Absolutely.

LLS


47 posted on 02/23/2010 12:56:54 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: trumandogz

“Therefore, conservatives should banish those who are gay”

They are 2% of the population. They ought not let the door hit them...well, where they’d like it. Butt seriously, you apparantly believe that it is perfectly fine for a group to form under the auspices of “conservatism” in order to push a militant gay agenda.

Why is that?


48 posted on 02/23/2010 12:58:46 PM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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To: joe fonebone
Ya know, I have noticed an extreme prejudice against libertarians on this forum lately

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Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that this is a conservative website, not a Libertarian website. I'm sure there are plenty of other sites where you can chat with the many people in this country who actually vote Libertarian. "Many" being about 1% of the electorate.

49 posted on 02/23/2010 1:00:30 PM PST by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: joe fonebone

“I believe the war on drugs is a failure, and is a complete disregard for the constitution.......does this mean I cannot be a conservative anymore??????”

It means that you are likely a Libertarian, but you either haven’t yet recognized this or you have but realized that that fringe party is going nowhere.


50 posted on 02/23/2010 1:01:01 PM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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