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Canadian citizenship hurdle to be U.S. president?
WND ^ | 2/23/2010 | WND

Posted on 02/23/2010 1:51:02 PM PST by rxsid

Canadian citizenship hurdle to be U.S. president?

The governor of Michigan has pooh-poohed concern over her allegiance to Canada – she was born there and has dual citizenship in the United States and Canada – and whether that would impact her candidacy if she chose to run for president.

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"Your two terms are up at the end of this year. Do you have any interest in moving here to Washington and working in the administration?" he asked.

"Are you offering me a job? No, I …" she said.

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"No, I'm totally focused this year on creating every single job I can until the last moment," Granholm said. "December 31st at midnight is when I'll stop. So I have no idea what I'm going to do next, but I'm not going to run for president. I can tell you that."

Wallace then pointed out that she would be unqualified to run, anyway.

"We should point out Gov. Granholm is a Canadian and cannot run for president," he said.

"I'm American. I've got dual citizenship," Granholm corrected him.

After bantering about who she supports in the Winter Olympics in Vancouver, Granholm said, "I left Canada when I was 4. Come on."

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At the Radio Patriot, radio host Andrea Shea King said, "Granholm's response is indicative of the mistaken belief that because one of her parents is/was a U.S. citizen, she's eligible."

"This woman took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Has she even read it?" King wrote.

"With this willful disregard of our founding document, is it any wonder that we have the son of a Kenyan-born British subject in the White House???" she asked.

More here: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125858

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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: ask; canada; certifigate; constitution; dualcitizenship; kenya; michigan; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetoro
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HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born).
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!


http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

1 posted on 02/23/2010 1:51:02 PM PST by rxsid
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To: LucyT; BP2; STARWISE; Red Steel; pissant; hoosiermama; null and void; Amityschild; Calpernia; ...
Ping.

"Canadian citizenship hurdle to be U.S. president?"

2 posted on 02/23/2010 1:51:50 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Obamas has proven that anyone with citizenship from any other country in the world can now be POTUS.


3 posted on 02/23/2010 1:53:46 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: rxsid

Good grief. She just doesn’t get it. (Or does she . . .)


4 posted on 02/23/2010 1:54:13 PM PST by Faith
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To: Beckwith; butterdezillion; Danae; dennisw; exit82; mason-dixon; May31st; mcshot; patlin; ...

Ping


5 posted on 02/23/2010 1:54:53 PM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: rxsid

Jennifer Granholm’s supposed Canuckistani loyalties are the LEAST of her problems should she ever be so foolish as to even consider running. Her record as Governor of the biggest $hithole in the US might give even a few moronic Michigan voters cause to think for once...

And what is that thing on her cheek?? Is it growing teeth..??


6 posted on 02/23/2010 1:56:37 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

7 posted on 02/23/2010 1:57:03 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: rxsid
"I'm American. I've got dual citizenship," Granholm corrected him.

Not recognized by our government. I don't care if Mexico encourages their citizens to vote in US and Mexican elections. I don't care if Peter Jennings claimed to retain his Canadian citizenship after taking the US loyalty oath as he became a naturalized citizen after 20 years in the US (I believe to vote against Boosh).

8 posted on 02/23/2010 1:57:18 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: rxsid
Oh, she's done such a WONDERFUL job for our state! We'd LOVE to share her with the rest of the country!

[/sarc] in case you couldn't tell...

9 posted on 02/23/2010 1:57:30 PM PST by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: rxsid

George Will once opined that the constitutional requirement to be a naturally born citizen be overturned so Granholm could be president.

Of course, that was when she was young and pretty and hadn’t actually governed for one minute.

Proving there is no fool like an old fool.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 1:58:03 PM PST by Carley
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To: Faith

It does not matter as that thing (The Constitution) is just a document of negative rights and is to be ignored when inconvenient.


11 posted on 02/23/2010 1:58:07 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: rxsid

Yes, we’ve gone over all of this for almost two years now.

We know that he definitely is not a natural born citizen, by his own testimony.

We’re living in the land beyond the rabbithole.


12 posted on 02/23/2010 2:00:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: rxsid

I would take Canadian Steven Harper over Obama and most of the Repubs as well. He rocks.


13 posted on 02/23/2010 2:01:32 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Frantzie

Chit, I’d take that loon Achmadinnerjob or WETF his name is over 0.


14 posted on 02/23/2010 2:05:57 PM PST by skimbell
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To: DJ Frisat

She certainly has...you could say we have been blown away!!!


15 posted on 02/23/2010 2:06:53 PM PST by Nekman (One Big Ass Mistake America...How's that Hope/Change thingy working out?)
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To: rxsid

Dual citizenship does not disqualify someone from the presidency. PERIOD.


16 posted on 02/23/2010 2:07:53 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: rxsid
"Granholm's response is indicative of the mistaken belief that because one of her parents is/was a U.S. citizen, she's eligible."

Yep -- she thinks that Obama's violation of the Constitution has amended it and thus opened the pathway for her.

17 posted on 02/23/2010 2:11:27 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Frantzie

Heck, fmr German chanellor Helmut Kohl, or French president Francois Mitterrand would be an improvement. I still maintain that Yasser Arafat as POTUS would be merely a lateral move from today’s regime.


18 posted on 02/23/2010 2:15:51 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: johncocktoasten
or French president Francois Mitterrand would be an improvement

A man with the blood of a million Rwandans on his hands? I hope he's roasting in Hell.

19 posted on 02/23/2010 2:16:52 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: rxsid

another Democrat who does not understand the Constitution
(where is Captain Obvious?)


20 posted on 02/23/2010 2:21:41 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rxsid

She really must be a dunce. No matter that one of her parents is an American citizen. The Constitution clearly states that the president has to be born in the good ol’ U.S. of A. She was born in Canada, therefore ineligible to run for the presidency.


21 posted on 02/23/2010 2:27:52 PM PST by El Gran Salseron
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To: El Gran Salseron

How about someone born on a US military base over-seas (with 2 American born parents)?


22 posted on 02/23/2010 2:30:08 PM PST by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: rxsid

Weren’t the first 7 presidents born British subjects too? I’m just sayin’....


23 posted on 02/23/2010 2:32:23 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: brothers4thID

That would have excluded RINO McLame, wouldn’t it? Wasn’t he born in Panama?


24 posted on 02/23/2010 2:35:20 PM PST by El Gran Salseron
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To: rxsid

Oh, no! No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No!

Not Jennifer Granholm, PLEASE!


25 posted on 02/23/2010 2:38:27 PM PST by RoadTest (Wealth isn't obscene. Poverty is obscene. - Thomas (man of few but dynamite words) Sowell)
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To: rxsid; patriotgal1787

Excellent work, Andrea Shea King


26 posted on 02/23/2010 2:47:30 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Roll back Pelosi" Rush Limbaugh, 2/12/10)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
27 posted on 02/23/2010 2:49:36 PM PST by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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To: El Gran Salseron

...and Barry Goldwater. Arizona wasn’t a state when he was born.


28 posted on 02/23/2010 2:52:44 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Sloth
"Dual citizenship does not disqualify someone from the presidency. PERIOD."

Naw, of course not. Having a Commander in Chief with divided loyalties is precisely what the framers were looking for, and exactly what the U.S. needs in this day and age.

/s

29 posted on 02/23/2010 2:53:01 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

These fuggers don’t give a rat’s ass about the Constitution — none of them.


30 posted on 02/23/2010 2:53:33 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: rxsid
"This woman took an oath to uphold the Constitution. Has she even read it?" King wrote.

Obviously not.

31 posted on 02/23/2010 2:54:34 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

read the constitution... they grandfathered themselves in... with a clause like... or a resident of at the ratification of this constitution...

they were not dummies...

t


32 posted on 02/23/2010 2:56:15 PM PST by teeman8r (anarchy is preferred over tyranny)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
"Weren’t the first 7 presidents born British subjects too? I’m just sayin’...."

And they "grandfathered" themselves "past" the NBC requirement.

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;"

I'm pretty confident Barry wasn't a Citizen (i.e. alive) at the time of the adoption of this Constitution.

33 posted on 02/23/2010 2:58:30 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: El Gran Salseron; brothers4thID
"That would have excluded RINO McLame, wouldn’t it? Wasn’t he born in Panama?"

McCain wasn't born on sovereign U.S. soil, and wasn't a NBC either. It could be one of the reason's why the (R)'s put him on the ticket, opposite the (D)'s non NBC candidate. McCain would have no "argument"...if it ever came to an actual court hearing, because he's not eligible either.

In Donofrio's suit, he alleged that not only was Barry or McCain not NBC, he also stated that Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero who was born in Nicaragua and was actually a (previously convicted felon) Green card holder when he was allowed to be placed on 5 states ballot's for the office of POTUS.

34 posted on 02/23/2010 3:09:33 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Naw, of course not. Having a Commander in Chief with divided loyalties is precisely what the framers were looking for, and exactly what the U.S. needs in this day and age.

Chuckle....well stated.

35 posted on 02/23/2010 3:17:36 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: rxsid
Naw, of course not. Having a Commander in Chief with divided loyalties is precisely what the framers were looking for, and exactly what the U.S. needs in this day and age.

1.) Only a moron would think that national loyalties are carried on the chromosomes.

2.) Obama clearly does not have divided loyalties, as he is 100% an enemy of the U.S. and its Constitution, like many other evil natural born citizens.

3.) Your interpretation would make a mockery of our system. All some two-bit turd like Ahmadinejad, Castro or Chavez would have to do to screw with our electoral process is make a law granting automatic citizenship to all Americans and they'd eliminate an entire generation of people from being President. FOREIGN LAWS DO NOT GOVERN AMERICAN LAWS. Only you, Anthony Kennedy and U.N. worshipers think they should. The rest of us understand the concept of sovereignty.

36 posted on 02/23/2010 3:40:52 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Sloth
Get a grip there!

Your right that foreign laws don't govern US laws. The reverse is true as well. So tell me then, how can the U.S. "prevent" Barry's foreign national father from passing his foreign citizenship on to his child?

37 posted on 02/23/2010 3:53:01 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

It doesn’t prevent it. It doesn’t need to. Having possessed dual citizenship does not disqualify one for the being Presidency.


38 posted on 02/23/2010 3:58:45 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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"I'm American. I've got dual citizenship," Granholm corrected him."

ROFL !!! Here they go again ... who's going to initiate the next bill to try to change the Constitutional eligibility requirements for POTUS ??

39 posted on 02/23/2010 3:59:40 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: rxsid

Granholm is the ultimate commie pig. As a graduate of Bezerkley, she wrote a doctoral thesis praising French communists. She’s stolen hundreds of millions - maybe billions - from productive Michigan communities and given that stolen cash to socialist pigs in Detroit and Lansing.

She’s protected by that slut traitor Michael Cox, Michigan’s RINO state attorney general. There’s more than enough evidence to hang granholm in court, seize everything she owns and throw her in prison for 200 years.

And she was re-elected to the governor’s job in 2006 by 57% of the idiots who infest the former great state of Michigan. The absolute worst socialist pigs who ever walked American soil live in Michigan, especially in Detroit.


40 posted on 02/23/2010 4:00:10 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Sloth
"It doesn’t prevent it. It doesn’t need to. Having possessed dual citizenship does not disqualify one for the being Presidency.

Of course not. /s. Again, the intent of the framers in distinguishing "citizen" from "natural born citizen" right there in the very requirement itself, meant that they believed someone with divided citizenship, divided loyalties was "OK" in the one and only Commander in Chief position.

Brilliant. Have a nice day.

41 posted on 02/23/2010 4:16:41 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: sergeantdave

Sounds like she would be a “natural” predecessor to Barry...on so many levels. I’m sure the state run media can help to persuade the sheeple to vote for her!


42 posted on 02/23/2010 4:19:42 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

“Natural born citizen” means what it says — a person who is a citizen at birth, naturally, as opposed to a foreigner who acquires legal citizenship later by “naturalization.” If the Framers had meant something different I’m confident they were smart enough to have said so.


43 posted on 02/23/2010 5:11:42 PM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Sloth
Vattel in Bk 1 Sec 212, states the following.

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it.

The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born.

,I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.









Is there any question why the founders put the Natural Born Citizen requirement clause in the Constitution?

44 posted on 02/23/2010 6:34:16 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: rxsid

as a michigander...a piece of advice.

NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! RUN SCREAMING THE OTHER WAY! OVER MY DEAD BODY! LOOK WHAT SHE DID TO MICHIGAN!


45 posted on 02/23/2010 7:36:31 PM PST by annelizly
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To: sergeantdave

I have always questioned the validity of the percentage of people that voted for granholm for the second term. There is no way that wasn’t rigged. NO ONE wanted her back for the second term.


46 posted on 02/23/2010 7:42:32 PM PST by annelizly
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To: STARWISE

The U.S. government does not recognize dual-citizenship so that she’s just wasting her breath. :-)


47 posted on 02/23/2010 7:57:15 PM PST by El Gran Salseron
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To: El Gran Salseron

You’d be surprised to know how many FReepers
insist that a dual citizen is eligible to be POTUS.
And look at her ... she totally diverts folks away
from the most salient fact: her Canadian birth.

These inveterate, slimy scoundrels are everywhere.


48 posted on 02/23/2010 8:30:52 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Bean Counter

LOIL I agree. This woman is an embarassment to me, a Canadian. I do recall Chrissy Mathews however, I think a few years ago, thinking that she would be a wonderful candidate for President. He’s such a tool and she’s worse. They both belong in the same basket!! CO


49 posted on 02/23/2010 8:36:30 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Frantzie

You are correct to do that. For once I can say I am PROUD of my Prime Minister. He’s a gem. I don’t say that lightly either. I know him personally and one of my very best Christian friends is best friends with him. He honestly is a gem. He will quit before he ever compromises his principles. We have waited such a long time for this but there are so many dumb liberals in this country. I believe they are the vocal minority. I pray they are. Because they are so stupid as to make a fellow citizen like me ashamed and raging mad at the same time. CO


50 posted on 02/23/2010 8:40:39 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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