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U.S. to retire nuclear Tomahawk missiles
Kyodo News ^ | 2/23/2010 | Japan Times

Posted on 02/23/2010 10:02:56 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The United States has informally told Japan it will retire its sea-based Tomahawk cruise missiles carrying nuclear warheads, in line with President Barack Obama's policy to pursue a world free of atomic weapons, government sources said Monday.

Washington said the move would not affect the nuclear umbrella, addressing concerns in Tokyo about the step's effect on U.S. deterrence against potential attacks from China, North Korea or other countries, the sources said.

The retirement will probably be stipulated in the Nuclear Posture Review, a new nuclear strategic guideline the Obama administration is slated to submit to Congress next month, they said.

U.S. subs carrying nuclear-tipped Tomahawks called in Japan during the Cold War, but the missiles were later removed for storage at bases on the U.S. mainland.

Their retirement will also likely affect debate in Japan over Tokyo's ongoing investigation into a secret pact with Washington to allow the U.S. military to bring nuclear weapons to Japan, because decommissioning will rule out the possibility of nuclear missiles coming into the country.

Past port calls and passage through Japanese waters by submarines armed with Tomahawks have raised controversy in terms of Tokyo's three nonnuclear principles of not possessing, producing or allowing nuclear arms on its territory

(Excerpt) Read more at search.japantimes.co.jp ...


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1 posted on 02/23/2010 10:02:57 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

They should be retired to Mecca, Medina and Qom.


2 posted on 02/23/2010 10:07:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: sonofstrangelove
President Barack Obama's policy to pursue a world America free of atomic weapons
3 posted on 02/23/2010 10:07:16 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: sonofstrangelove

this fraud can’t be removed soon enough.


4 posted on 02/23/2010 10:07:44 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: kingattax

This is such a horrible decision.


5 posted on 02/23/2010 10:08:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Paladin2
"The United States has informally told Japan it will retire its sea-based Tomahawk cruise missiles carrying nuclear warheads, in line with President Barack Obama's policy to pursue a world free of atomic weapons, government sources said Monday. "

And, in return, The Obammunist received what in return from his comrades the Rooskies?

yitbos

6 posted on 02/23/2010 10:09:00 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: sonofstrangelove
“in line with President Barack Obama’s policy to pursue a world free of atomic weapons, “

Yeah. /sarc That “world free of atomic weapons” will do a lot of good in Iran and North Korea.
What is this communist smoking?

7 posted on 02/23/2010 10:09:47 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: sonofstrangelove

this marxist SOB would unilaterally disarm the US if he wasn’t stopped.


8 posted on 02/23/2010 10:11:54 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: bruinbirdman
"The Obammunist received what in return from his comrades the Rooskies?"

The favorable image of Iran, China, Venezuela, Russia, etc. ROTFLTAO.

9 posted on 02/23/2010 10:12:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: sonofstrangelove

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2458037/posts

Since per the above thread, there is apparently a ‘war’ just breaking out over who has the president’s ‘ear’. I can’t wait to see who the ‘gravitas’ is behind this program.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 10:13:24 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Paladin2

Hell, there’s enough of them that we could “retire” quite a few more Islamic locations.


11 posted on 02/23/2010 10:16:17 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I thought nuclear capable Tomahawks were eliminated with the IRBM treaty Reagan signed that also got rid of the Pershing II.

I didn’t know there were nuclear capable Tomahawks anymore.


12 posted on 02/23/2010 10:16:56 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: kingattax

“would?”....seems he IS....


13 posted on 02/23/2010 10:20:55 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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A Tomahawk Cruise Missile



Its warhead. Its a W80 nuclear warhead that has a yield of 150-200 kilotons
14 posted on 02/23/2010 10:21:40 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

They have them on naval ships and attack submarines.


15 posted on 02/23/2010 10:22:23 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

The treaty was with Russia correct? Maybe then it only applied to the European theater.


16 posted on 02/23/2010 10:25:09 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: sonofstrangelove

Is this what the subs carry? I sure hope he’s not disarming our second strike deterrent.


17 posted on 02/23/2010 10:26:22 PM PST by lacrew (Barack Obama is always the least experienced most condescending guy in the room. (Rush))
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To: valkyry1

You are correct. It applied on Ground Launched Cruise missiles in Italy


18 posted on 02/23/2010 10:26:25 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

On balance, so long as we still maintain the 14 boomers carrying on average 10 Tridents each (and those with multiple warheads), it’s still more than enough to take care of everyone we’d ever need to take care of, and then some. I’m not that concerned about letting an aging missile system expire.


19 posted on 02/23/2010 10:26:39 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: SmokingJoe

“What is this communist smoking?”

Um, our freedom and national security?


20 posted on 02/23/2010 10:27:36 PM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: lacrew
"Is this what the subs carry? I sure hope he’s not disarming our second strike deterrent."

I don't think subs carry nuclear-armed Tomahawks, at least not anymore. Their Tomahawks are all conventional. Most Ohio class subs carry Tridents.

21 posted on 02/23/2010 10:28:53 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: lacrew

No. You have the Trident missile system for a second strike.


22 posted on 02/23/2010 10:31:00 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: OldDeckHand

I think the attack subs carry the coventional Tomahawks.


23 posted on 02/23/2010 10:31:59 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a0181reagandivided

Maybe this ‘time-line’ will help. IF this article is to be believed the Tomahawks have not been eliminated...

24 posted on 02/23/2010 10:32:30 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Tolsti2
President Barack Obama's policy to pursue a world America free of atomic weapons

President Barack Obama's policy to pursue a world free of America

TFTFY
25 posted on 02/23/2010 10:35:53 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Paladin2
"The favorable image of Iran, China, Venezuela, Russia, etc."

yitbos

26 posted on 02/23/2010 10:37:17 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: sonofstrangelove
"I think the attack subs carry the coventional Tomahawks."

I think that they do too. I honestly don't know what ships still carry the nuclear Tomahawks. I don't think any of our subs or surface ships are carry these, at least as a manner of course - could be wrong.

27 posted on 02/23/2010 10:37:28 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Just mythoughts

I just looked it up.

The treaty only applied to ground launched variants of the Tomahawk and GLBM’s with a specified range.

Apparently it did not apply to sea or air launched cruise missiles.


28 posted on 02/23/2010 10:38:43 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: OldDeckHand

Its seems our surface ships do carry nuclear Tomahawks because the Japanese are complaining about it when our ships come to port.


29 posted on 02/23/2010 10:39:15 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Allowing the enemy to get the upper hand, really brilliant... sarcasm.


30 posted on 02/23/2010 10:39:41 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: sonofstrangelove
"President Barack Obama's policy to pursue a world free of atomic weapons"

Answer x 2: President Imanutjob.

31 posted on 02/23/2010 10:39:47 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Liberal Massachussetts says: "FUBO!")
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To: sonofstrangelove

Hundreds of Kilotonnage. That’s what I like to hear. For any sane opponent, it puts things quickly into perspective.


32 posted on 02/23/2010 10:41:25 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Liberal Massachussetts says: "FUBO!")
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To: sonofstrangelove
This is such a horrible decision.

I 2'nd that.....
33 posted on 02/23/2010 10:41:30 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: sonofstrangelove
"Its seems our surface ships do carry nuclear Tomahawks because the Japanese are complaining about it when our ships come to port."

I saw that, and found it a little puzzling. I'm thinking that this is Obama trying to take some political credit with his (in his words) "policy to pursue a world free of atomic weapons", but in reality I don't believe that there are any deployed. I'm pretty sure they're all in storage, and have been for some time.

The Navy has a standing policy of not confirming or denying what nuclear weapons are or are not on any specific ship, and it does cause some commotion from time to time. This happens constantly with our carriers.

34 posted on 02/23/2010 10:48:51 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Uncle Miltie

Megatonnage


35 posted on 02/23/2010 10:49:09 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Zero wants the money for our military superiority to go into the black hole of our financial meltdown. It is a variation of the socialist’s goal to turn guns to butter.

Once we have met total financial destruction, Zero will have set us up to be ground zer0 to our enemies.


36 posted on 02/23/2010 10:49:31 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fascism.)
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To: OldDeckHand

You are right about the carriers.


37 posted on 02/23/2010 10:52:15 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Obama is unilaterally disarming the US, while all our enemies are building nuclear weapons.


38 posted on 02/23/2010 10:58:07 PM PST by SmartInsight
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To: sonofstrangelove

Remember that article a few days ago about India and China performing a joint military exercise? When Bush was president, this never would have happened, as India was a US ally.

Glad to know Obama is “restoring” the image of America in the eyes of the world! Oh wait.


39 posted on 02/23/2010 10:58:20 PM PST by ksm1
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To: SmartInsight

I agree.


40 posted on 02/23/2010 10:59:12 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove; All
"The retirement will probably be stipulated in the Nuclear Posture Review, a new nuclear strategic guideline the Obama administration is slated to submit to Congress next month, they said."


41 posted on 02/23/2010 11:10:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: F15Eagle

That sounds about right.


43 posted on 02/23/2010 11:17:59 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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44 posted on 02/24/2010 1:43:07 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: sonofstrangelove

What is to keep the Chinese from nuking our carrier fleet a thousand miles east of the Taiwan Straits now?

It’s my understanding the tactical nukes are the air umbrella threat used to get the carrier battle groups toward Taiwan in case of invasion?


45 posted on 02/24/2010 1:50:01 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Tolsti2

Exactly. He will strip us of nukes on the (false) premise that the rest of the world will follow our good example. Obama is either an incompetent or a charlatan or both. Words fail me.


46 posted on 02/24/2010 4:23:07 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81

nobama is PURPOSEFULLY attempting to destroy the United States: financially, culturally and systematically. He smiles, his addled supporters applaud, yet this is what he is doing.


47 posted on 02/24/2010 4:26:21 AM PST by hal ogen
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To: SmokingJoe
What is this communist smoking?

He's not "smoking" anything. He's not insane, foolish, or stupid, either. (Not that he's anywhere near the genius he thinks he is ...)

He has an agenda for destroying these United States of America, and he's pursuing said agenda on many fronts. Unilateral disarmament is one of them.

IOW, he's not moronic, he's demonic.

He's not a looney, he's a muzzie.

He's not a fool, he's a traitor.

48 posted on 02/24/2010 4:27:14 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

>>”...in terms of Tokyo’s three nonnuclear principles of not possessing, producing or allowing nuclear arms on its territory.”

Words on paper. How quickly will these words be changed if we pull out of Japan and Korea; and China decides to get frisky? How many shiploads of PLUTONIUM has Japan gotten from France’s reprocessing of nuclear fuel? Two? Three?


49 posted on 02/24/2010 4:30:25 AM PST by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: Paladin2
At 150-200Kt, they aren't robust enough to do the job needed - something in the 5Mt range would be more appropriate for the targets mentioned - use the Tomahawks on smaller but similar targets to send a convincing message to the Muslim world that Allah is a false god and so begin the mass conversion of former muslims to some other religion.
50 posted on 02/24/2010 4:31:18 AM PST by PIF
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