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Poll: More than half of Hispanics identify as conservative
The Dallas Morning News ^ | By ROBERT T. GARRETT

Posted on 02/24/2010 1:14:32 PM PST by Castle21o

AUSTIN – A bent to conservatism and family makes Hispanics a promising pool of votes for Republicans, but the party's targeting of illegal immigrants has withered its attraction.

Regardless, Gov. Rick Perry has fared relatively well, perhaps because of his anti-Washington rhetoric and his careful immigration stance, a recent poll indicates.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010polls; hispanics; hispanicvote; outreach
As a hispanic myself, I've known this to be mostly true. Hispanic values are mostly aligned with conservative values however the problem is that there are no hispanic "limbaugh's" who can clearly articulate the conservative message to traditional hispanics and just like the msm the spanish orientied news and entertaiment outlets are inundated with liberal talking heads.
1 posted on 02/24/2010 1:14:32 PM PST by Castle21o
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To: Castle21o

I work in the same building as Telemundo, they are owned by NBC, so we know the political bent will be Leftist.


2 posted on 02/24/2010 1:15:48 PM PST by wac3rd (Felipe Calderon supports the public option.)
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To: Castle21o
Poll: More than half of Hispanics identify as conservative

So why'd they overwhelmingly vote for 0bama, by far the most left wing candidate for president this country has ever seen, especially since McCain was the guy that pushed amnesty more than anyone else?

3 posted on 02/24/2010 1:26:09 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Castle21o

And blacks are also generally quite conservative in most views. But the left has purchased black votes for 60 years and has been doing the same with illegals. Moreover, if “hispanics” were so conservative, why would the left be so keen on tuning them into citizens and VOTERS??


4 posted on 02/24/2010 1:27:07 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Castle21o
Is the implication of the article true that most hispanics are sympatico with illegals to the point they are off-put by certain republicans' stand on border security?

I would be offended at that suggestion.

5 posted on 02/24/2010 1:28:02 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Castle21o
the problem is that there are no hispanic "limbaugh's" who can clearly articulate the conservative message to traditional hispanics

No Spanish speaking Limbaugh type? I would think that a greater proportion of legal, Spanish speaking immigrants have learned or are learning to speak English, than the illegal group and why would we want to reach out to the illegal ones?

6 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:06 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Castle21o

American Hispanics who are conservative really don’t need anyone to speak for them any more than I need someone to speak for me. I’m an American first and foremost. If someone comes along and tells me that they’ll stand up for “German Americans”, I’ll likely tell them to shove it.


7 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: Castle21o
the problem is that there are no hispanic "limbaugh's" who can clearly articulate the conservative message to traditional hispanics

No Spanish speaking Limbaugh type? I would think that a greater proportion of legal, Spanish speaking immigrants have learned or are learning to speak English, than the illegal group and why would we want to reach out to the illegal ones?

8 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Castle21o

Perry has a “careful” immigration stance? That’s what amnesty is called these days?


9 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:37 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Castle21o

test


10 posted on 02/24/2010 1:29:54 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Castle21o

Well maybe while the Hispanics that you refer to are waiting for a spanish speaking MSM media outlet to emerge, or a Spanish speaking Limbaugh, you could suggest to them that while they live in America they could learn English and join the rest of the English speaking Americans.

Just a thought!


11 posted on 02/24/2010 1:30:38 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Castle21o

Well maybe while the Hispanics that you refer to are waiting for a spanish speaking MSM media outlet to emerge, or a Spanish speaking Limbaugh, you could suggest to them that while they live in America they could learn English and join the rest of the English speaking Americans.

Just a thought!


12 posted on 02/24/2010 1:31:05 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Castle21o
They can call themselves anything they want but I'll wager the shirt on my back that the overwhelming majority of those that vote vote RAT.
13 posted on 02/24/2010 1:31:36 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Castle21o

Well maybe while the Hispanics that you refer to are waiting for a spanish speaking MSM media outlet to emerge, or a Spanish speaking Limbaugh, you could suggest to them that while they live in America they could learn English and join the rest of the English speaking Americans.

Just a thought!


14 posted on 02/24/2010 1:31:53 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Castle21o

Well maybe while the Hispanics that you refer to are waiting for a spanish speaking MSM media outlet to emerge, or a Spanish speaking Limbaugh, you could suggest to them that while they live in America they could learn English and join the rest of the English speaking Americans.

Just a thought!


15 posted on 02/24/2010 1:32:17 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Castle21o

I don’t know how many times I’ve said that the moron Republicans need to make a strong distinction between Hispanic Americans and illegals. George Bush had eight years to do it, and it was epic fail.


16 posted on 02/24/2010 1:32:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Castle21o

Here we go again about the “conservative” Hispanic. They might not like gay marriage but when push comes to shove they will vote for whever promises the most freebies.


17 posted on 02/24/2010 1:33:34 PM PST by C19fan
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To: Castle21o
the problem is that there are no hispanic "limbaugh's" who can clearly articulate the conservative message to traditional hispanics

Sounds like a great opportunity for an up-and-coming radio talk show host who speaks Spanish.

18 posted on 02/24/2010 1:33:58 PM PST by American Quilter (Mourning Capt Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie.)
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To: Castle21o

and if the GOP had a brain and actually mentioned the homosexual problem we have then we’d get even more hispanics voting for the GOP.

instead we have a GOP with no guts and are too afraid of even mentioning the homosexual problem of abortion.

If anyone from the GOP is reading this then get a grip and start mentioning social issues and why the homosexuals should not be helped in their agenda. Staying silent or saying the Govt has no right in the issue is only helping them and it makes you no conservative what so ever


19 posted on 02/24/2010 1:34:59 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: SmokingJoe

mention the homosexuals and they the hispanics and blacks will agree with us and yet the GOP says nothing


20 posted on 02/24/2010 1:35:53 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Castle21o

Well maybe while the Hispanics that you refer to are waiting for a spanish speaking MSM media outlet to emerge, or a Spanish speaking Limbaugh, you could suggest to them that while they live in America they could learn English and join the rest of the English speaking Americans.

Just a thought!


21 posted on 02/24/2010 1:35:57 PM PST by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: Castle21o

In my relationships with hispanics who are here LEGALLY, and thus LEGALLY allowed to vote, I find that they are very much against illegal immigration. The reason is that they played by the rules and waited patiently, but all the illegal fence-jumpers rushed in before them.


22 posted on 02/24/2010 1:36:38 PM PST by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: Castle21o

Most of them probably are social conservatives, but not necessarily ‘conservative’ in other areas such as economic or America-first conservatism.


23 posted on 02/24/2010 1:36:41 PM PST by paudio (Are you better off today than in 2006, when the Democrats took over the Congress?)
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To: Castle21o

Trick ... Don’t fall for it.


24 posted on 02/24/2010 1:37:05 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: Castle21o

I get a kick out of how everyone playing on Hispanics as something other than originally from Spain.I understand that there is the derivative now in South America but, originally they are from the Conquistadors landing their. My grandmother is from Spain and I don’t feel any less European than say a French Canadians does towards France. With that said, most true Hispanics are Catholic and very Traditional so i would expect them to lean towards Conservatism. Sorry about the first rant.


25 posted on 02/24/2010 1:37:18 PM PST by rstark56
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To: SmokingJoe

I would argue they view the term “conservative” to be “traditional” primarily. Would seriously doubt they would look at themselves as conservative in the fiscal sense.


26 posted on 02/24/2010 1:37:26 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Castle21o

In my relationships with hispanics who are here LEGALLY, and thus LEGALLY allowed to vote, I find that they are very much against illegal immigration. The reason is that they played by the rules and waited patiently, but all the illegal fence-jumpers rushed in before them.


27 posted on 02/24/2010 1:37:36 PM PST by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Moreover, if “hispanics” were so conservative, why would the left be so keen on tuning them into citizens and VOTERS??

What an idiotic generalization. All "hispanics" are not illegals.

28 posted on 02/24/2010 1:39:15 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

“What an idiotic generalization. All “hispanics” are not illegals. “

Not idiotic at all. ‘hispanics’ vote democrat/socialist, legal or otherwise. Fact.


29 posted on 02/24/2010 1:40:34 PM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: rstark56

I was chastised by my boss in front of a customer when someone asked me if there was a large Mexican population where I lived. I had responded there was a large Hispanic group made up of many countries in the area including Mexicans. I was told flat out that Mexicans would be offended and that they are Latino - not Hispanic.

I honestly didn’t realize this was such a slur. It seems like everything I have seen on paperwork, etc. notes Caucasian, African American or Hispanic.

Stumped


30 posted on 02/24/2010 1:44:41 PM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: AuntB

“keen on turning hispanics into citizens” is a tell on lumping hispanics and illegals and non-citizens into the same basket. Ignorant.


31 posted on 02/24/2010 1:45:00 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: manc
Yeah.
I would agree that most Hispanics are “conservative” in the traditional social conservative sense. But then most Hispanics then tend to vote Democrat anyways, because they like all the “free” government services that the Democrats keep pushing, like “free” health care, and all the “free” social security benefits that they keep getting.
Bottom line is that like blacks, Hispanics will almost always vote for the Democrats, so it's pretty stupid for Republicans to throw away core Republican values and pander to Hispanics. If Hispanics want to join the Republican Party, they can subscribe to OUR core values. We are not gonna sacrifice our core Republican values for Hispanics votes that we are not going to get anyway.
32 posted on 02/24/2010 1:47:18 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Castle21o

I’ll never understand why the majority of Hispanic voters - ie. those who immigrated here LEGALLY - support amnesty for the line-jumpers. If I was Hispanic, I’d support a guy like Tom Tancredo.


33 posted on 02/24/2010 1:47:58 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: manc
and if the GOP had a brain and actually mentioned the homosexual problem we have then we’d get even more hispanics voting for the GOP."

No we wouldn't. Plenty of blacks and Hispanics voted against California's Prop 8, but happily and enthusiastically voted for Obama.

There might be an issue, or two that Hispanics agree with Republicans on, but it ends there. They, by in large, want unfettered immigration, free health care, racial preferences and set-asides, and a robust "social safety net" - all things antithetical to conservatism.

34 posted on 02/24/2010 1:48:24 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Castle21o

“however the problem is that there are no hispanic “limbaugh’s”

...no, but we celebrate “cinco de mayo” like it’s Christmas!
There’s “LaRaza”, “Telemundo”, “Sabado Gigante”, dial 1 for Spanish, signs written in spanish through Wal-Mart, magazines specifically for hispanics and on and on! Why in hell does every “minority” whine about not having enough to “convey” a message? If hispanics spoke this country’s unnofficial language; ENGLISH, then they’d have no problem getting an “articulate message” from Rush! He’s never disparaging or condesending. “Conservative values” are “conservative values”! The same in any language. Hispanics are conservative when it comes to family. Otherwise, most have been trained like seals to take government hand outs.


35 posted on 02/24/2010 1:52:57 PM PST by albie
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To: Castle21o

“A bent to conservatism and family makes Hispanics,,,”

Kind of hard to believe considering they overwhelmingly vote liberal.


36 posted on 02/24/2010 1:56:33 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Castle21o
Hispanic Values don't extend to such things as stopping to report, render assistence, or taking responsibility for motor vehicle vs. pedestrian accidents. Please tell me that I'm dead wrong. But, seriously why has there been so many fatal hit-n-run drunken driver fatalities by illegal aliens? I just can't understand the alleged Mexican machismo in play that allows some cabrone to leave their helpless victims to die on the side of the road. How does somebody live with themselves after doing this kind of thing.

Sure, I'll admitt that Hispanic's are in general 'family based' which is a very good thing.

37 posted on 02/24/2010 1:57:56 PM PST by STD (-Obama's Riding The Trojan Horse of islam)
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To: nurees
Cubans, Spanish, and Portuguese do not consider themselves “Hispanic”. Mexicans who have maintained their genetic and cultural ties with Spain do not consider themselves “Hispanic”.

Every time I have to go through this litany of what's what, who's what, I roll my eyes and say to myself, “And WE'RE supposed to be the racists!” Oh, yeah, we're really awful. It took the last 30 years to make me realize that we weren't all Americans. Ever since the 60s and all the racial upheaval, I've been learning just how racist I am — and I didn't even realize it.

38 posted on 02/24/2010 2:02:50 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: SmokingJoe

I think some hispanics sense a certain hostility from some conservatives.


39 posted on 02/24/2010 2:05:45 PM PST by babble-on
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To: Castle21o

When they vote like conservatives then they will get the credability. GWB got less than 30% and he worked hard for them.


40 posted on 02/24/2010 2:06:13 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: Castle21o

But they VOTE for DEMOCRATS who give them free things to buy their votes and it seems to work!!!


41 posted on 02/24/2010 2:11:51 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Castle21o

The spanish language press pound away at the idea that conservatives are racist; particularly they pound away at the idea that if you want to secure the borders the motivation is racist.

Meaning, they are pretty much in lock step with the english language press which says and does the very same thing.

The upshot is that if you get your information from the english or spanish language press, finding your home in the Republican Party is an uphill climb.


42 posted on 02/24/2010 2:16:39 PM PST by marron
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To: babble-on
I think some hispanics sense a certain hostility from some conservatives.

Lets face it - anyone who identifies themselves with a race or a gender or a gender preference first & foremost, and then (maybe), as an American second, will 'sense hostility' from conservatives.

That mindset is an anathema to conservatives.

43 posted on 02/24/2010 2:41:02 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Castle21o

Part of the issue is the fact that most American conservatives are “classic liberals”, meaning, they believe in limited government, private property, and individual rights and responsibility.

Hispanics are by and large conservative in terms of family and morals. And coming as they do from countries with disfunctional governments, they operate well in an environment in which government intentionally limits itself.

But they have not all internalized the idea that government ought to be limited or that its primary responsibility is protecting freedom. There is still a presumption that, if there is a social or economic problem, the government ought to do something (this is an idea that is accepted with fully half of Americans in general). The idea that some problems must be solved by private people or private institutions has not been internalized and its a difficult sell. Classic liberalism is, in fact, a difficult sell which is why it took root mostly only in the US and it hangs on by its fingernails even here.

But that is the hurdle conservatives face in reaching out to anyone, not merely hispanic voters. When you are in a debate with a party that promises special programs for ethnic voters, color-blind citizenship is a hard sell. And when you are faced with a party that has a government solution for every ill, limited government is a very tough sell.

“What do you propose to do for hispanic Americans?” “Nothing.” “What do you propose to do about global warming?” “Nothing”. “What do you propose to do about the endangered red-feathered loon?” “Nothing”. “What should government do about medical care?” “Nothing”. Its a tough sell. It will attract a certain type of person, and that type of person is the kind you want. But its not going to be an easy sell. And you’re right, we haven’t found our spanish-speaking Limbaugh or even our english-speaking hispanic Limbaugh who can articulate this clearly and convincingly.


44 posted on 02/24/2010 2:41:34 PM PST by marron
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To: cripplecreek

There’s nothing wrong with being proud of ones ethncity, but as you stated, what’s the point? I remember a college prof asking me about my last name. He thought it was Italian, but I informed him it was actually Slovenian. Then he wanted to know if I had explored my ethnicity. I told him I really hadn’t given it much thought. I simply don’t care. I am, however, very proud to be an American.


45 posted on 02/24/2010 2:48:53 PM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Thane_Banquo

“...hispanics who are here LEGALLY, and thus LEGALLY allowed to vote,..”

GOOD GOD!! Resident foreign nationals are NOT allowed to vote, period.

Voting is for U.S. citizens only!

If you know any legal residents - foreign nationals who are or have voted in the past, contact your locals elections office. Those people should be removed from the voting rolls immediately.


46 posted on 02/24/2010 3:11:33 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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