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Obama Rejects Socialist Tag But Would Tax Health Plans If More Than People 'Need'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/25/2010 6:03:25 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." -- Karl Marx, 1875

"It's a tax on insurance companies that offer Cadillac, or quite frankly, Rolls Royce policies that in essence people don't need." -- Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, 2-25-10

The day after Pres. Obama carped about people calling him a socialist, he sent his top spokesman out to describe a plan to tax health insurance policies that provide benefits more generous than what people "need."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2evil4words; barackobama; evil; evilbastrrd; healthinsurance; robertgibbs; socialism

1 posted on 02/25/2010 6:03:25 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Obama mouthpiece using Marxist rhetoric ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 02/25/2010 6:04:08 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Socialism and Obama are both based on lies and ignorant people. Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people..


3 posted on 02/25/2010 6:05:38 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Any time a leftist pronounces any judgement of “need”, or of the “common good”, they are in essence placing themselves and the state in the place of God.

Even thinking that you have know what the “common good” is is arrogance.


4 posted on 02/25/2010 6:06:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

IT’S BEEN VERY WELL ESTABLISHED THAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SAYS.


5 posted on 02/25/2010 6:07:03 AM PST by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Uhhhhhh...I THOUGHT HE WANTED EVERY ONE TO BE INSURED. WHAT A F&*&**********G HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN NOT TAKE ANYMORE OF THE COMMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 02/25/2010 6:07:39 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

To call Obamie a “Socialist” is being quite kind.
I prefer to call him what he is:
A red diaper doper baby MARXIST. (thanks to Michael Savage)

Given half a chance, he will destroy America as we have known it.


7 posted on 02/25/2010 6:07:48 AM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Tarpon
Obama is as "ignant" as they come.

This business of taxing firefighters, police and dynamite haulers for their necessarily more expensive medical insurance plans is actually quite bizarre.

I do believe Congress-critters would themselves rebel at having to pay a tax for receiving access to Bethesda Naval Hospital, et al IND ADDITION TO their other medical insurance with private companies, e.g. Kaiser-Permanente.

8 posted on 02/25/2010 6:08:25 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“It’s a tax on insurance companies that offer Cadillac, or quite frankly, Rolls Royce policies that in essence people don’t need.”

Please Gibbs, help me. I can’t do it alone. Thank God you’re there for me...


9 posted on 02/25/2010 6:09:17 AM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“It’s a tax on insurance companies that offer Cadillac, or quite frankly, Rolls Royce policies that in essence people don’t need.”

I don’t get it.

Since when do free people submit to being told what the NEED… by ANYONE, then continue to regard themselves as free?????


10 posted on 02/25/2010 6:09:45 AM PST by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“To each according to his “need”, from each according to his means.” (Karl Marx)

Nope! He is no Socialist. He is a Marxist.


11 posted on 02/25/2010 6:11:18 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: ryan71

When he lies, he speaks his native language.
John 8:44


12 posted on 02/25/2010 6:14:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: muawiyah
Obama is as "ignant" as they come.

I don't think so, he thinks you are the ignant.

13 posted on 02/25/2010 6:15:10 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Tarpon

“It’s a tax on insurance companies that offer Cadillac, or quite frankly, Rolls Royce policies that in essence people don’t need.” — Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, 2-25-10

What kind of Health Insurance plan do Obama and Congress have a Pinto Plan?


14 posted on 02/25/2010 6:19:15 AM PST by scooby321
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I mean seriously. People expecially businesses should be outraged.
The Fascist are now going to tell businesses WHAT they can develop and sell.

Next if you have a Resturant that sells food that the Furher doesn’t think is healthy, TAX them to death.

This is pure FASCISM, nothing less.


15 posted on 02/25/2010 6:25:07 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It looks like we’re ALL going to be paying, big time, for this “single payer” monstrosity.


16 posted on 02/25/2010 6:25:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS “NEEDS”..............


17 posted on 02/25/2010 6:25:43 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: muawiyah
Obama is as "ignant" as they come. This business of taxing firefighters, police and dynamite haulers for their necessarily more expensive medical insurance plans is actually quite bizarre. I do believe Congress-critters would themselves rebel at having to pay a tax for receiving access to Bethesda Naval Hospital, et al IND ADDITION TO their other medical insurance with private companies, e.g. Kaiser-Permanente.

Were his words read from a teleprompter? I think they have resorted to pulling a name from a hat to have the 'right' (payoff) to program the teleprompter for a day. He didn't hire all the advisers and czars for no reason.

I can't see BamKennedy in his own mind giving a 'hoot' about being called a 'socialist' unless somebody in his vast court wanted him to react or make it a topic of a day...

18 posted on 02/25/2010 6:25:45 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: scooby321

It’s what Socialists do, they always get the best, the rest get the crap.

Halve the size of government restore freedom.


19 posted on 02/25/2010 6:27:38 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: scooby321

Some animals are more equal than others.


20 posted on 02/25/2010 6:27:48 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (Snowdaze ...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
. . . it prevents us from asking hard questions about the right balance between the private and public sectors.

Hard questions? Hard for him maybe -- lots of have already answered it with ease. Putting our answer into practice is the hard part!

21 posted on 02/25/2010 6:51:52 AM PST by maryz
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So if you have good insurance but have had the good fortune to remain healthy, you are taxed extra for your good health? Am I getting it right?


22 posted on 02/25/2010 7:53:50 AM PST by Ditter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
OBAMANOMICS--TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Sen Scott Brown's number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan

http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

23 posted on 02/25/2010 7:55:37 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Law of Obummer: If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, acts like a duck, it`s not a duck.


24 posted on 02/25/2010 8:23:19 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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