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1 posted on 02/25/2010 8:08:39 AM PST by mbarker12474
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Funny, this is a problem as old as Christianity itself. When Jesus dealt with it, He simply told the laity to do it His way.


2 posted on 02/25/2010 8:11:29 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Perhaps it is no coincidence that the United Methodists and the American Baptists are the two oldline denominations that seem most likely to hold firm in traditional Christian doctrines.

If my church or Pastor did not, I'd find another church.

3 posted on 02/25/2010 8:16:53 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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Although not Lutheran-specific, this article serves to expose one of the symptoms of the fragmentation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.



Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Keep a Good Lent!

4 posted on 02/25/2010 8:20:47 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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What is the distinction between a “mainline” Protestant or Baptist and an evangelical Protestant or Baptist? Is there a doctrinal distinction that I am unaware of?

SnakeDoc


5 posted on 02/25/2010 8:21:31 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Do you know if the hotel is pager friendly? [...] I'm not getting a sig on my beeper.)
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Republicans outnumber Democrats by an astounding 66-4 percent among Southern Baptist pastors.

I am not astounded by that. What astounds me is that there are any Bible believing, professing Christians that are liberal and support candidates who are pro abortion, no matter if Catholic, Protestant or what ever, claiming Christ.

These so called "Christians" will be wishing for a mill stone around their necks instead of what they are destined to receive.

6 posted on 02/25/2010 8:22:35 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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Church unity there, as in the oldline churches, will have to come through the teachings and work of Jesus Christ.

Phooey. Everyone knows that American churches are country clubs. A half-hour of watered-down "I'm okay, you're okay," a bunch of shallow love songs about Jesus, the same prayer Baldy the Car Salesman has been praying for twelve years, and then pass the plate and get the club dues.

There are no polarizing politics, or any other polarizing behavior. It's all designed to make people feel like sitting in a pew for an hour a week is "Christian," keep their money coming in, with zero demand for work or learning.

8 posted on 02/25/2010 8:24:39 AM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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Why do we expect Christians to agree on politics, they never have before.
Instead I see the new "splits" as a sign that people are getting involved. That's a good thing.

19 posted on 02/25/2010 9:04:08 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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But they would do well to remember that perhaps a third of those in the pews hold a different partisan loyalty

I doubt it. It would be interested to take a deeper look at actual church attendance and involvement. I bet the democrats reported in these church bodies actually bother to show up for worship at a much lower rate than their numbers would suggest. Ditto for actual involvement in lay ministries. (After all, why volunteer when it's redundant - the government nanny is already supposed to be meeting everyone's needs.)

20 posted on 02/25/2010 9:09:09 AM PST by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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Church unity there, as in the oldline churches, will have to come through the teachings and work of Jesus Christ.

Would solve any problems.

21 posted on 02/25/2010 9:18:01 AM PST by xone
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What better way to change society is there than to infiltrate the mainline churches with Marxist and socialist teachings to change the thinking of the clergy and then ultimately the belief of the laymen? This certainly has happened to the mainline churches beginning in the 1950s and especially in the 1960s.


22 posted on 02/25/2010 9:41:43 AM PST by miele man
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