Six hours later, stalemate remains

Politico.com ^ | 02/25/10 | CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN

[OldDeckHand]

Thursday’s health care summit wound down with President Barack Obama making clear he couldn’t sign on to the Republican plan for reform, wouldn’t abandon reconciliation and had no intention of scrapping his own plan – capping the six-plus-hour session with a dig at Republicans for pitching a bill that covers just a fraction of the uninsured.

“Those steps don’t get you to the place people need to go,” Obama said of the Republican plan.

Republicans said the same thing in their closing comments that they said at 10 a.m. – start over. Obama won’t.

So the parties walked out of Blair House almost exactly the way they walked in – completely at odds over the best way to fix the health insurance system. That means Democrats are almost certain to go ahead with plans to short-circuit Senate rules to try to pass the bill with a 51-vote majority, as early as next week.

The day-long session had flashes of gripping political theater, rival parties laying bare their philosophical differences on a critical issue with TV cameras rolling. At one point, Obama sparred with his ex-presidential rival John McCain. “We’re not campaigning anymore, John,” Obama said. “The election is over now.”

[OldDeckHand]

If Politico is calling it a "stalemate", then you know Obama got his @ss handed to him.

That means Democrats are almost certain to go ahead with plans to short-circuit Senate rules to try to pass the bill with a 51-vote majority, as early as next week.

We shall see.

[EagleUSA]

Hope and change -— ain’t it beautiful??

[Jewbacca]

“Stalemate” must be the Democrat talking point.

Truth: Obama, et al, played politics and were not there in good faith.

The Democrats lack of good faith showed.

[Carley]

To wrap up with a pack of lies. How typical.

[mentor2k]

Is anybody really surprised? Rush said it today . . tomorrow they’ll be touting Republicans as having nothing substantial to offer.

[jakerobins]

I would say it was a Checkmate for Republicans...So the little boy President knocked over the board and went crying home......

[JoSixChip]

So everything went exactly as planed then?

[Ingtar]

If the GOP shows the guts that they did today, they will take turns challenging it line by line and forcing a 60 vote requirement on each line. They should keep the thing tied up until after the elections that way.

[Question Liberal Authority]

Six hours ago, Politico said this would ‘put a face on gridlock’. Since the word ‘gridlock’ doesn’t appear in this 3-page article, I assume it didn’t happen.

[Diogenesis]

JUST A FEW OF THE DETAILS OF OBAMA’s DEATH PANELS:

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS WHO SELF-INSURE!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE which decides what treatments & benefits you get.
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt WILL RESTRICT ENROLLMENT of Special Needs people.
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you.
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL NON-US CITIZENS, illegal or otherwise.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill- ALL NON-RESIDENT ALIENS will be exempt from individual taxes. (Resident Americans will pay)
Pg 58 HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued.
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, no choice.
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC EXCHANGE to bring private HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private HC plans in the Exchange.
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs. for of Benefit Levels for Plans.
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
pg 124 Lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill -DOCTORS/ AMA - The Govt will tell you what your salary will be TAX.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 All Employers MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above, who does not provide public option, pays 8% tax on all payroll.
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to the Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances & personal records.
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax".
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill- Govt WILL REDUCE PHYSICIAN SERVICES for Medicaid Seniors, and low income people.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. (seniors)
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life.The Govt has a say in how your life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER FOR END OF LIFE plans. AN "ORDER" from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.

[kcvl]

“Those steps don’t get you to the place people need to go,” Obama said of the Republican plan.

How the hell would Obama know because he hasn't even read it! He doesn't even know what is in the RATS plan.

[thelastvirgil]

The Kenyan, Mr. Sotero, reminded me of an 8-year-old playing tree house boys club. He is so immature and oh so tiresomely stupid. He doesn’t even possess the skills of a junior executive in running a meeting of the stationery committee.

[goldstategop]

Let them try. They need to get to 60 votes first before they can resort to reconciliation. The Democrats won't get a single GOP vote for their bill.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

[Paperdoll]

I Idn’t ecpect anything else. Obama is a complete tyrant. It’s his way or the highway. The Pubs were royaly had! I just hope all Americans understood what was happening right in front of their eyes on their tv screens, and proceed accordingly.

[bert]

You are wrong. They beat the crap out of him.

He was shown to be unable to negotiate anything.

[Huebolt]

The biggest and most obvious stalemate is between obamo’s ears. It’s dumb vs. dumber and winner take all.

[ballplayer]

As I watched that Incompetent Babbler go on all I could think of was Man is this Country in trouble with this fool as the P I cant even type the title,man I hope our enemies were not watching that boob

[Uncle Miltie]

“Those steps don’t get you to the place people need to go,” Obama said

0bummerCare gets you to the place 0bummer wants you to go:

[Freee-dame]

We’re not campaigning anymore, John,”

Did "John" address Obama as "Barack"? How disrespectful of zer0 to address Senators and Representatives by their first names at a formal meeting. He is so condescending.

[Paperdoll]

You just wait, it will be to no avail for the Pubs. They will be given credit for having nothing valuable to add. As I’ve said on other threads, the radical left turns all to their advantage. Diabolic!