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Top US Marine rejects Obama plan to repeal gay ban
AFP, Brietbart ^ | 2/25/10

Posted on 02/25/2010 6:04:49 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy

The head of the US Marines said on Thursday he opposed ending the ban on gays serving openly in the military, the first top officer to break openly with President Barack Obama over the issue.

General James Conway told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he disagreed with Obama's plan to repeal the ban.

"My best military advice to this committee, to the (defense) secretary, and to the president would be to keep the law such as it is."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; bhodod; conway; dontaskdonttell; gays; homosexualagenda; marines; semperfi; usancgldslvr; usmc
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OOORAH!!! Semper Fi!
1 posted on 02/25/2010 6:04:49 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy
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To: Mr. Jazzy

There is one man standing still. He needs to team up with the Duncan Hunter and Son and kill this Obama wet dream.


2 posted on 02/25/2010 6:06:20 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Fight back, Marines. This is about much more than just letting people serve.


3 posted on 02/25/2010 6:07:12 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: SandRat

ping


4 posted on 02/25/2010 6:07:59 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

More like an Odumbo and Barney Frank wet dream!


5 posted on 02/25/2010 6:08:07 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Mr. Jazzy

A whole battalion of Larry Sinclairs for them to choose from.


6 posted on 02/25/2010 6:08:50 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

This isn’t even about the Bible and immorality. This is about the emasculation of our military.


7 posted on 02/25/2010 6:09:01 PM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Latest military polling indicates the same sentiments.....


8 posted on 02/25/2010 6:09:29 PM PST by cranked
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To: Mr. Jazzy

damn right he does as does the marine corp to you bozo that is marine corpse.

the ARMY and the navy supply no danger outfits might want it seeing as most of them are there for a free VA loan and a free schooling but the infantry and front lines who do the hard work do not want this .

Any vet on here will know that having homosexuals openly serve will bring so many problems it is not worth it.

There is not one pro to having openly serving homosexuals, besides they need their heads fixing as they are not mentally right up there if they are a homosexual


9 posted on 02/25/2010 6:09:30 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

uh oh. Someone’s gonna be demoted. Ya dont say NO’ to the O.


10 posted on 02/25/2010 6:09:32 PM PST by max americana
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Thank God we still hve one real general at least.


11 posted on 02/25/2010 6:10:36 PM PST by gthog61
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To: max americana

Obama can’t even pronounce Marine Corps


12 posted on 02/25/2010 6:11:36 PM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: ari-freedom

HA!

So true!


13 posted on 02/25/2010 6:12:03 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Superb. Our nine-year old daughter is going to her first Young Marine encampment this weekend as a recruit. It will be her first camping trip also.


14 posted on 02/25/2010 6:12:05 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: manc; pissant

General James Conway told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he disagreed with Obama’s plan to repeal the ban.

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HEAR! HEAR!

Watch for the Army and Air Force to say the same!


15 posted on 02/25/2010 6:13:20 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: steve86

God bless her with a safe experience that helps her learn more about the warriors that protect us all.


16 posted on 02/25/2010 6:14:30 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Cee-gar Man US Marine

Hey gunny! Good news PING


17 posted on 02/25/2010 6:15:15 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: onyx

“Watch for the Army and Air Force to say the same!

I hope and pray they DO!


18 posted on 02/25/2010 6:15:42 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Mr. Jazzy

SEMPER FI General James Conway.


19 posted on 02/25/2010 6:16:18 PM PST by Dubya (JESUS SAVES)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

If the homosexuals really want to “serve their country” that badly, what difference does it make whether or not everyone knows they are a homosexual? I don’t get it.


20 posted on 02/25/2010 6:16:29 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

As a soldier, part of the same bureaucracy as the Marines, this man is really got some balls. I applaud him on this! But, even at his level - a General Officer, to go against his big bosses (Admiral Mullens, who is a naval officer and - sadly - over all military members as the Joint Chief of Staff, and the Commander-in-Chief, President Obama), is very risky. I hope he’s ready for retirement.


21 posted on 02/25/2010 6:16:29 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier
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To: Mr. Jazzy
"do we somehow enhance the war fighting capabilities of the United States Marine Corps by allowing homosexuals to openly serve?"


22 posted on 02/25/2010 6:16:42 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Mr. Jazzy
It is a shame that it takes a "real soldier" only in the twilight of his career, full of "real service" to his Country to stand up and say this. He knows full well that his mandatory retirement is just around the corner.

Wouldn't it be great of hundreds of thousands of Company and Field grade officers and senior Non-coms would also come out as say something like, "Change the rules and train a new Cadre' to lead the openly homosexual, as we won't!"

23 posted on 02/25/2010 6:17:00 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Seems our wonderful president wants everybody to be gay
like him. No thanks obango. Go find Larry Sinclair again.


24 posted on 02/25/2010 6:17:08 PM PST by manonCANAL
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To: ari-freedom
Emasculation - Shemasculation be damned, it is about the only role the Federal Government has - as Glen Beck would say it "Protecting US from the BAD GUYS!"

The decision will so erode the Esprit de' Corps (if you are BHO pronounced Corpse)!

25 posted on 02/25/2010 6:19:02 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If the homosexuals really want to “serve their country” that badly, what difference does it make whether or not everyone knows they are a homosexual? I don’t get it.

This biggest issue of this that is hidden is that, once accepted as normal, we will have to figure out if they can fraternize with other soldiers and will we have to provide them marital health care and housing. It's a slippery slope that will cost the taxpayers billions along with opening the door with their many more "divorces" and domestic issues. This is where the military needs to define their definition of marriage between one man and one woman.

26 posted on 02/25/2010 6:19:36 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier
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To: icwhatudo

Is that Barneys Frank?


27 posted on 02/25/2010 6:19:51 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Mr. Jazzy

To let these disgusting perverts live in close quarters with real men is all about undermining the military and allowing perverts to seek the object of their perverse obsession.


28 posted on 02/25/2010 6:20:29 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Mr. Jazzy

To let these disgusting perverts live in close quarters with real men is all about undermining the military and allowing perverts to seek the object of their perverse obsession.


29 posted on 02/25/2010 6:20:57 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: ImpBill

Obama would pronounce that as ‘he spit duh corpse’


30 posted on 02/25/2010 6:20:58 PM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: 444Flyer

ping

31 posted on 02/25/2010 6:22:49 PM PST by Semper Mark (As graceful as a bulldozer and as subtle as a wrecking ball.)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

“As a soldier, part of the same bureaucracy as the Marines, this man is really got some balls.”

That’s because he’s a Marine.


32 posted on 02/25/2010 6:23:16 PM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

JAG doesn’t have enough lawyers in the entire military to defend the government from “sexual harrassment” and “sexual discrimination” lawsuits once the homosexuals are given legitimacy by allowing to flaunt their “gayness” openly. Ending “DADT” would just about put an end to the military.


33 posted on 02/25/2010 6:23:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: Mr. Jazzy
Senator Joe Lieberman disagreed with Conway, saying he believed the review would show that allowing gays to serve openly would bolster the military's battle readiness.

Joe Lieberman DID NOT serve in The United States Military

34 posted on 02/25/2010 6:26:59 PM PST by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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ole paratrooper here...

Semper Fi to a real military man.

There are not too many in the Pentagon...alot of Kiss Azz politicos who run 10Ks and couldn’t fight off my ticked off gramma.

The line soldier, marine in the field does not want gays in the military period, let alone don’t ask, don’t tell.


35 posted on 02/25/2010 6:29:00 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Engineer_Soldier
JAG doesn’t have enough lawyers in the entire military to defend the government from “sexual harrassment” and “sexual discrimination” lawsuits once the homosexuals are given legitimacy by allowing to flaunt their “gayness” openly. Ending “DADT” would just about put an end to the military.

That's the point, isn't it? Coming from an administration led by the most successful communist traitor mole in history.

36 posted on 02/25/2010 6:34:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

I guess his honor means more to him than another promotion. Thank God for our country still having men of INTEGRITY. As opposed to the sterling example of McCrystal, Gates and the rest of the A## Kissing staff officers and DOD personnel that sign off on this push to destroy our military by incremental politically correct moral destruction.


37 posted on 02/25/2010 6:35:52 PM PST by erman (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: erman
One more time: The priceless Monty Python...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iH1GhM2j8

38 posted on 02/25/2010 6:39:24 PM PST by Huebolt (Democrat = (national socialist) = NAZI)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

BTTT!


39 posted on 02/25/2010 6:41:30 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ari-freedom

Its about all three. NO to fruitcakes in the military!


40 posted on 02/25/2010 6:44:12 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: erman

You are absolutely right.

There are already PLENTY of “Weasely Clarks” out there looking to protect their stars and their future political ambitions.

God bless the REAL warriors!


41 posted on 02/25/2010 6:52:07 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Mr. Jazzy

opps, looks like somebody is about to get retired, Man, for the Joint Chiefs to be this vocal in public, things must be going crazy in the E Ring.


42 posted on 02/25/2010 6:56:51 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Markos33

Is Conway the last man standing in our military leadership today? Everyone else is towing the line of the homosexual lobby? Pathetic.

This is good:

“Marines of Conscience or Homosexual Marines”

(snip)”...Service in the U. S. Marine Corps requires the loss of many liberties that civilians enjoy; especially, the right of association. Individual Marines cannot choose their leaders or with whom they will work and live. It is beyond governmental authority to force these Americans into situations that compromise their morals. The Selective Training & Service Act of 1940 permits the granting of Conscientious Objector status to “One who by reason of religious training and belief is conscientiously opposed to participation in war.” Little known is: People v. Stewart, 7 Cal. 143, “Conscientious Scruple. A conscientious scruple against . . . doing military duty, or the like is an objection or repugnance growing out of the fact that the person believes the thing demanded of him is morally wrong, his conscience being the sole guide to his decision . . . ” (Black’s Law Dictionary). This “Conscientious Scruple” provision appears to give Marines of conscience a legal remedy for a morally compromising situation of serving under or with Marine homosexuals. Moreover, since there are evidently more persons of conscience in our society than homosexuals, the pool of potential recruits for the current all-volunteer Marine Corps will be reduced.

A question which now begs answering is: “How would replacing Marines of conscience with homosexual Marines enhance a Marine unit’s combat efficiency?” Rather than enhancing combat efficiency, the opposite would be the result. In large part, the degree of a Marine unit’s combat efficiency parallels its degree of unit cohesion. As the term implies, unit cohesion is a function of the emotional closeness of the unit’s members who are drawn together by both social and military common grounds. There are at least three areas by which homosexual Marines would be drawbacks to such cohesion:...”

http://www.thebutter-cutter.com/Marines_of_Conscience_or_Ho.php


43 posted on 02/25/2010 6:59:22 PM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: Mr. Jazzy
at least we have one military leader standing up for the good of the service and its mission.
44 posted on 02/25/2010 7:02:13 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

General James Terry Conway, USMC

34th Commandant of the Marine Corps (2006 - present)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-military-gays26-2010feb26,0,2058224.story

Semper Fi General Conway!

45 posted on 02/25/2010 7:02:55 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (I think we met before in a past life, and I was a witch back then, too!)
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To: Mr. Jazzy
The push-back begins! Thank God!
46 posted on 02/25/2010 7:04:49 PM PST by Falcon28
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Top Marine replaced by executive order in....

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47 posted on 02/25/2010 7:06:42 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ..

In case anybody missed this (( ping )).


48 posted on 02/25/2010 7:07:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

If and when he is replaced or forced to retire, the lame stream media will do their dead level best to portray this warrior as a troglodyte Bush-holdover who needed to get out of the way of progress.

God bless him and the United States Marine Corps.


49 posted on 02/25/2010 7:09:22 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Engineer_Soldier

But, it sounds so workable on paper.


50 posted on 02/25/2010 7:11:18 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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