Skip to comments.Sheriff says he'll undermine (Colorado State University) gun ban
Posted on 02/25/2010 9:34:34 PM PST by greatdefender
The Colorado State University Board of Governors voted unanimously Tuesday to place students at both of its campuses in harms way with a sweeping weapons ban law-abiding citizens will obey and criminals will ignore.
Larimer County Sheriff James Alderden, outraged by the ban, told The Gazettes opinion department he will undermine it in the interest of student safety.
CSU-Fort Collins Police Chief Wendy Rich-Goldsmith, a relative newcomer to the campus, supports the ban.
I have told the CSU police chief I will not support this in any way, Sheriff Alderden told The Gazette. If anyone with one of my permits gets arrested for concealed carry at CSU, I will refuse to book that person into my jail. Furthermore, I will show up at court and testify on that persons behalf, and I will do whatever I can to discourage a conviction. I will not be a party to this very poor decision.
Though each CSU campus has its own police department, Alderden issues all cops on the Fort Collins campus a deputy sheriffs commission card. He also runs the countys jail, which campus police use after making arrests.
Alderden said ban advocates have been unable to cite a single study or statistic to show that students will be safer as a result of a weapons ban. Hes convinced they will be much less safe as a result of the ban, which will leave most students defenseless. The ban establishes the campuses as soft targets, meaning armed criminals will have a reasonable expectation their intended victims arent armed.
There are volumes of statistical and anecdotal data that show populations are safer when law-abiding citizens are permitted to carry concealed weapons, Alderden said.
Six years after Alderden began issuing permits, he noticed the homicide rate in his jurisdiction had dropped.
At CSU-Fort Collins, the ban includes pepper spray, in quantities greater than an ounce, and Tasers.
This ban, which is broad and encompassing, basically denies students at the Fort Collins campus any defensive capacity at all, Alderden said. Its a weapons-free zone for law-abiding people, and it wont do a single thing to keep armed criminals off of campus. It will only ensure them a lot of defenseless victims. The people who did this are lost in their own world of ideological liberalism. You would think people involved in academia would want to deal in data and experience, but this has been all about emotion.
Alderden said he realized the sentiment against self-defense is based in emotion after speaking with a public school teacher who asked him to stop issuing concealment permits. He showed her data that prove concealed carry reduces crime. He told her concealed carry would help reduce violent crime in Fort Collins and the rest of Larimer County a sentiment shared by El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa and a growing number of ranking law enforcement officials regarding their own jurisdictions.
I made the whole case, based in provable facts. The teacher said, and I quote, I dont care about the facts. She only cared about her emotional response, Alderden said.
The student Senate of the Fort Collins campus opposed the ban by a 23-1 vote. That means CSU governors, and administrators who pushed for the ban, dont seem to care what their customers think. The Student Senate at Pueblo approved the ban, only after administrators said weapons did not include Tasers or pepper spray.
God forbid we have something like the tragedy at Virginia Tech at one of these campuses, Alderden said, referring to a notorious shooting spree in which a lunatic wantonly killed for hours, while a gun ban ensured him no students or faculty would shoot back.
Alderden questions the legality of the ban, saying the legislature never discussed excluding college campuses when it passed a shall-issue concealed-carry law in 2003. The law requires county sheriff's to issue concealment permits to law-abiding residents without felonies, misdemeanor domestic violence records, or other other disqualifying conditions. Furthermore, he said students who ignore the ban wont have legal problems if they dont get caught.
If its properly concealed, so that nobody sees the weapon, it probably wont be a problem, Alderden said.
In the event a concealed weapon is needed for defense of self or others, it would become evident to law enforcement. In that unlikely event, Alderden said, safety trumps legal concerns.
They say its better to be judged by 12 than carried by six, Alderden said.
Thats the advice of a lawman with a record of reducing crime. The ban is the work of academic ideologues, who theorize about safety and crime. Hope and pray the academicians dont find themselves begging forgiveness someday, in the wake of a horrible crime.
It’s more common for police executives to favor gun grabbing than the other way around. I don’t know what will become of this sheriff’s efforts in court if they conclude that the university has the legal right to do what it did, but good on him for standing up for common sense.
The sheriff is the highest ranking law enforcement official in the county. His legal authority trumps that of the Fort Collins police chief and the university officials. He has the state law on his side. He is elected by the people (police chiefs are political appointees.)
I’d say he’s in a good position. I’m certain the university and the local libs will raise a stink, but if he stands firm, on the law, he should carry the day. The main reason our side has been losing ground in these situations for so many years has simply been a lack of will to fight. That tide seems to be turning, and it is now time to go on the offensive against these types.
Well I sincerely hope that a deranged gunman doesn’t head for Colorado, thinking that the Board of Governors looks like a pretty soft target.
Definitely. They're a plague. Washington State, Oregon, Tulsa, Knoxville, Austin, Santa Fe.
Going where nobody wants them. Then turning their new homes into sewers like the ones they left.
call him and voice support!
He can move to my county when his term there is done - we’ll vote for him!
My brother went to school there years ago and told me (back then) that it was nothing but a nest of Marxists. Poetic justice would be if a madman opened fire on those idiots.
Sounds like it's time for him to stop issuing those deputy sheriff's commission card.
Damn. I like this guy.
That's my Sheriff!
It is good to see a man stand up for what is right, isn’t it?
That seems to be a common disease in public school teachers.
Yes it is. Especially when he’s the head lawman in your home county. :-)
Need more law enforcement like Alderman.
We have a fair number of Kalis here in Franklin TN who moved with the Nissan headquarters thing.
A mixed bag....some lefties and some fleeing for the sanity here.
Kalis in Nashville proper tend to be the looney kind.
You are right though..they ruined Colorado.
But you know...what really started the Colorado thing was all the hippies moving there in the late 60s and 70s...the whole get back to the mountains thing exemplified by Dan Fogleberg and Stephen Stills amd Neil Young etc....
When I would go to Santa Fe in the 60s as a boy it was a western town with Indian overtures. Then the arty hippies came. We would drive up into Colorado and watched the same transformation in quaint little towns on both slopes....and then the oil boom brought so many new folks into Denver.
Middle TN has undergone the same sort of boom too last 15 years...I rarely hear a southern accent anymore except outside of metro area.