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When can we let go of the myth of the “conservative” Hispanics?
The Collins Report ^ | February 26, 2010, | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 02/26/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37

We are in the ugly situation of being governed by Marxist socialists because of a few groups of voters who turned their back on American freedoms for their own benefit by voting for Obama.

Hispanics were one such group. The media constantly touts Hispanics as “conservatives” and thus people real conservatives should kowtow to for fear they would stop supporting Republicans. Those of us that watch politics know calling Hispanics “conservatives” is a lie.

Texas GOP Governor Rick Perry has been on the frontline of dealing with these “conservative” Hispanics and his sorry record should serve as a reminder of the folly of bargaining with a group whose main goal seems to be erasing our border controls.

It’s long past time that the Republican Party stops sucking up to Hispanics or any other groups masquerading as conservatives who black mail patriotic Americans with charges of racism.

Governor Perry’s “in state tuition” bribe

In a recent poll more than half of Hispanics in Texas self identified as conservatives, but talk is cheap. At this news a Texas Democrat responded Rick Perry “doesn’t frighten” Hispanics because he has distanced “himself from immigration hard-liners in the GOP.”

In fact Perry has a record of being soft on illegal aliens and has given them in state tuition rates at Texas state colleges. He has said he “ want[s] to [only] keep out.. people that are smuggling drugs and people.”

In 2002 Perry got 13% of the Hispanic vote, in 2006 only 14% while Democrats got three times as many.

By the numbers

Hispanics registered 57% Democrat; just 23% Republican; 66% voted for Obama.

Calling Hispanics conservatives is ridiculous. Appeasement doesn’t work, ask Rick Perry.

We’re in the midst of a conservative revolution. We should welcome true conservatives but voter blackmail stops now.

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Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them "thanks but no thanks." I rather go forward without them because we don't need anymore socialist in our "tent."
1 posted on 02/26/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Just look at where the Hispanics come from ... Socialism and the perpetual homes of the promised free lunches that never seem to show up.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 6:11:14 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: jmaroneps37

We can dump the idea of conservative Hispanics about the time we dump the idea of the conservative black.
It just ain’t gonna happen.

No offense to blacksuga.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 6:12:21 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Let’s stop treating “Hispanics” as a monolith. Some Spanish speakers from some LatAm countries (Colombia, Cuba, Peru and Chile, for example) tend to be conservative, both socially and politically.

The great majority of Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are not, mainly because they were poor and uneducated in their home countries and were absorbed into the Democratic Party as soon as they got here.

However, the thing that is true among all Latin American cultures is a great love of entrepreneurship. The dream of every Dominican arriving in New York was to start his own little grocery store or car service or some other business, and this was true of Puerto Ricans, too. If you look at Mexican areas, you’ll see hundreds of little businesses, founded by Mexican immigrants (look at black areas, and you’ll see almost no black-founded or owned small businesses).

So the appeal that must be made by Republicans is to the fundamental desire for independence and financial achievement that is the basis of Latin American entrepreneurship.


4 posted on 02/26/2010 6:14:07 AM PST by livius
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To: jmaroneps37
Ahem.

5 posted on 02/26/2010 6:16:45 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: jmaroneps37
The only consistent group of Hispanic Conservatives has been the Cuban community and primarily those prior to the Muriel boat lift under Jimmah Carter's term. They were and are highly educated and intelligent and know the effects of Communism.

The most recent Hispanic immigrants are generally uneducated and impoverished. The Marxist tactics of free goodies for votes greatly appeals to them.

6 posted on 02/26/2010 6:19:36 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: Joe Boucher

Exactly. Blacks are even worse, 94% voted for obama. Even people like J.C. Watts who supposedly was so conservative couldn’t repeal the magnetic attraction to vote for the big 0.


7 posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:22 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Lets also get rid of the myths that most blacks are conservative and that 75% of Americans think of themselves as conservatives. Elections dont lie. 90-95% of blacks are liberal. The country is divided 30%leftist loons, 30% conservatives, 40% mushy moderates.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 6:26:44 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: jmaroneps37

There are many conservatives who are ‘hispanic.’ The way to build a base among them is the same way to build a base of conservatives of any other ancestry - with conservative ideas. We need to stop this goofy game of breaking people into politically meaningless groups and targeting them with what we think they want to hear.


9 posted on 02/26/2010 6:27:24 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Whatever social conservatism they bring here with them is generally gone by the next generation. Take a look at the piece Michelle Malkin has up about the young hispanic man whose immigrant parents told him to “work hard and don’t be a burden on your new country”. That lasted until he figured out he could join Americorps and get $30K stipend, get all his student loans forgiven, and yet still receive food stamps. Now he is a leading Obamabot.


10 posted on 02/26/2010 6:27:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jmaroneps37
The Republicans’ Hispanic Delusion Amnesty is not just wrong in principle, it’s bad politics.
11 posted on 02/26/2010 6:35:19 AM PST by kabar
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To: jmaroneps37

I know a few conservative Hispanics. They are educated and second generation in this country - legally. They are also doctors. They can’t STAND Obama!


12 posted on 02/26/2010 6:35:21 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: RebelTXRose

How do you define an Hispanic?


13 posted on 02/26/2010 6:36:43 AM PST by kabar
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To: jmaroneps37
Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat

Yeah, but only while they think of themselves as Hispanic. Once they think of themselves as American, it's much easier.

We should focus on the similarity of their experience with that of Germans, Irish, and others that immigrated and how they became part of our union.

An Ellis Island on the north shore of the Rio Grande would be a good start. It worked for other groups.

14 posted on 02/26/2010 6:39:38 AM PST by GeorgeSaden
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To: jmaroneps37

Mexicans like our black brothers and sisters,are socially conservative for the most part but when it comes to fiscal issues, many(not all) will vote for the candidate that promises them the most goodies.

Cubans,Guatemalans, Salvadorans and Colombians appear to by all around,solid conservatives.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 6:40:16 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: jmaroneps37
Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote.

Let's cut the collective crap....period!

Catering to any group because of their groupage is the very basis of the liberal mindset, and we need to distance ourselves from it altogether, IMHO.

Conservative ideals MUST be based on the individual FIRST, as the individual selves of the People are the very foundation of our naturally given rights.

Stand on solid ground, and the followers will take care of themselves.

16 posted on 02/26/2010 6:40:17 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: jmaroneps37

Let’s let go of other myths, too. My favorite is that if he had lived, somehow JFK would be a conservative today.

That’s absurd. He would have been one of the worst liberals on the scene. I know about his opinions then, but odds are he would be a sickening lib in 2010.


17 posted on 02/26/2010 6:41:58 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: MamaTexan

Well said.


18 posted on 02/26/2010 6:42:08 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: jmaroneps37

The Catholic Church promotes Socialism, why wouldn’t Catholic Hispanics do the same?


19 posted on 02/26/2010 6:42:50 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: jmaroneps37

“Let’s stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them ‘thanks but no thanks.’ I rather go forward without them because we don’t need anymore socialist in our ‘tent.’”

This crap sandwich was promoted by Jorge Arbusto and his sidekick, Rove.

The changing demographic in this country is killing us. I’d be surprised to find that even 10% of the people we are importing will turn out to be conservative voters.

Conservatives who support the present immigration scheme (Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 present to us) are suicidal.


20 posted on 02/26/2010 6:43:01 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: jmaroneps37; SilvieWaldorfMD; cll; rrstar96; El Gran Salseron

“Shall we correct a few stereotypes” PING


21 posted on 02/26/2010 6:43:01 AM PST by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
Mexicans like our black brothers and sisters,are socially conservative for the most part...

Their "social conservatism" sure doesn't show up in any election results, probably because that trait does not in fact exist aside from a VERY small minority of the above-mentioned groups.

We've been told for years that Hispanics are deeply faithful to their Catholic religion and that abortion is repugnant to them, blah, blah, blah.... Yet look how they vote - that says it all.

22 posted on 02/26/2010 6:48:11 AM PST by PermaRag (the stock market will stop bleeding when those who manipulate it START bleeding)
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To: kabar

The one I know closest is Mexican.


23 posted on 02/26/2010 6:50:04 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: kabar

I would say a person whose ancestors are from a Spanish speaking country, is an easy def.

Btw, I, my wife, my children and most of my wife’s family all are conservative Hispanics.

My mom is a moonbat thou.


24 posted on 02/26/2010 6:51:21 AM PST by Jonx6
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Many Latin American cultures are conservative in the cultural sense (respect for family, traditional values, Catholic/Christian religous beliefs. etc.) As was pointed out to me, a stable family unit is the only way to survive in societies that undergo continuing political and economic chaos.

But, as was also pointed out to me....once they can come to Ohio and figure out they can get welfare, game over.


25 posted on 02/26/2010 6:53:52 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MamaTexan

Post of the Day!

Unfortunately, it will fall on deaf ears with most of the Freepers on this thread.


26 posted on 02/26/2010 6:57:01 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: jmaroneps37

Hispanics showed who and what they are a couple of years ago when they marched in large numbers supporting amnesty.

Not only were the Mexican flags offensive to most Americans, the claim that they were in America before it became America did not do them any favors. But, the most telling act was the number of Hispanics who bashed Bush, 43.

These people are so stupid and so inculcated with liberal ideology, they couldn’t recognize one of the best friends they have. FWIW, we need to stop appeasing the illegal invaders of our country and claim that we just can’t do without them. Instead, we need to gain control over our borders and begin mass deportations.

I, for one, am tired of feeling like a stranger in my own country. Spanish language advertisements, products, etc., that disenfranchise native-born Americans are offensive and ridiculous.


27 posted on 02/26/2010 6:59:03 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: posterchild

Most conservative “hispanics” probably self-identify as white and have been here for generations.


28 posted on 02/26/2010 7:02:53 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: jmaroneps37

I did years ago.


29 posted on 02/26/2010 7:05:10 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: jmaroneps37

I’m Hispanic and conservative. Of course I was born and raised here so I have a different mindset and have little in common with the general Hispanic population but I think what people are saying is that Latinos are Democrat, and they mostly are. I think there are two main reasons: 1) They have the patron mentality from centuries of Spanish rule. That is, they work for the “man” of the hacienda and in return expect to be protected by him sort of a feudal relationship) so big government is certainly a good substitute. 2) Many of them are just plain ignorant of political and social-economic realities because they feel culturally that they are stuck in a “class” system. In other words, a farmer begets a farmer begets a farmer.
Now I know some will disagree with this assessment and certainly the liberals would but I still have relatives in Mexico and I have studied and have come up with these conclusions. I think in the long run, after a couple of generations that cycle will break but that has been my observation.


30 posted on 02/26/2010 7:07:37 AM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: posterchild; Mr Fuji
Thank you both.

I just don't understand why so much energy is wasted catering to groups instead of just getting in the face of the Dems.

Winning the debate impossible, IMHO, because you've already allowed the collective mindset of socialism to define the argument.

That's why the GOP has been on the losing side....they've been trying to out- Marx the Marxists.

31 posted on 02/26/2010 7:08:14 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: jmaroneps37

Part of the problem is that Conservatives and Republicans have done a poor job articulating their position on the number one issue among Hispanics - immigration.

While the vast majority of us are in favor of LEGAL immigration and against the illegal variety, the general feeling in the Hispanic community is that we’re against immigration, period, and as such means that we hate them and don’t want them here.

Couple that with the dims actively courting them and sucking up to them by supporting illegal immigration, it is unsurprising that Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for democrats.

Rather than giving up, we should be searching for a better way to get out the message that we actually DO like Hispanics and, if they’re willing to respect our laws and come into this country legally, we will welcome them here.


32 posted on 02/26/2010 7:12:21 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The liberals are asking us to give Obama more time. Is 25 to life enough?)
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To: Jonx6
The Virginia Department of Minority Business defines a minority individual as “an individual who is a citizen of the United States or a non-citizen who is in full compliance with United States immigration law and who satisfies one or more of the following definitions:” Here is their definition of Hispanic.

"Hispanic American” means a person having origins in any of the Spanish-speaking peoples of Mexico, South or Central America, or the Caribbean Islands or other Spanish or Portuguese cultures and who is regarded as such by the community of which this person claims to be a part."

I would say a person whose ancestors are from a Spanish speaking country, is an easy def.

Do you subscribe to a "one drop" rule in defining whether someone is Hispanic or not? How does one identify who is Hispanic?

The Democrats created the artificial category of “Hispanics” in the 1970s as a way to create another class of victims, which they could imbue with special rights and privileges, including affirmative action and minority business set asides for whites. The result is another "minority group" that votes Democrat. It doesn’t matter that, according to the Census Bureau, 51 percent of Hispanics self-identify themselves as white. The Census Bureau has even created the phony category of “non-Hispanic whites,” which are now 66 percent of the population and will be 50 percent in 2042. The reality is that “whites” will still be more than 70 percent of the population in 2042.

I asked an Hispanic panel at last year's CPAC and they had difficulty defining what an Hispanic was. One even included Filipinos.

33 posted on 02/26/2010 7:15:22 AM PST by kabar
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To: livius
Some Spanish speakers from some LatAm countries (Colombia, Cuba, Peru and Chile, for example) tend to be conservative, both socially and politically.

Latinos from any Hispanic country are not politically monolithic because they spring from a class (and racial) structure within those countries. Unfortunately, the social arithmetic is all wrong for the Republican and Conservative cause. These countries all have a huge and explosively growing underclass of mostly indigenous native ancestry, a comparatively small, numerically stable middle class, with proportionately more European ancestry, and a very small upper class, of mostly European ancestry. This demography is hardly a mystery.

I was personally assured by Karl Rove that "Mexican-Americans would be the Republicans of the Future." He wisely did not put a date on the word "Future." If 20% of legal hispanic voters in the US go Republican, consider it a minor miracle.

So the appeal that must be made by Republicans is to the fundamental desire for independence and financial achievement that is the basis of Latin American entrepreneurship.

Well, OK. But let's face it, that ought to be self- evident to this "Latino entrepreneurial class." Instead, we get Republican pandering to the largely illegal immigrant community with their anchor babies ... people who are 5 generations away from even considering the Republican Party; people who are in many cases, already illegally voting for, or being voted by, the Democrats.

34 posted on 02/26/2010 7:18:02 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: Tarpon

Hey there Tarpon! I’m sick and tired of the “Hispanic this and the Hispanic that’’. This isn’t assimilation, it’s racial extortion. If you vote one way or another the “Hispanics won’t like it’’. How is a minority allowed to hold a majority hostage?


35 posted on 02/26/2010 7:18:54 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
While the vast majority of us are in favor of LEGAL immigration and against the illegal variety, the general feeling in the Hispanic community is that we’re against immigration, period, and as such means that we hate them and don’t want them here.

The litmus test on immigration is amnesty. The "Hispanic community" predominantly supports amnesty, which is against the Rule of Law, the basic foundation of our Republic.

36 posted on 02/26/2010 7:19:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: DustyMoment

Tell it brother! Shout it from the rooftops! I haven’t forgotten May of ‘06. I still burn with fury at the sight of those bastards parading their damned flag and disrespecting our flag and demanding, DEMANDING! we make them citizens.


37 posted on 02/26/2010 7:22:32 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: jmaroneps37
Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them "thanks but no thanks." I rather go forward without them because we don't need anymore socialist in our "tent."

O' rilly?

That would be news to my father, mother, myself and most of the family on my father's side. My family was and is very "conservative". My father was a Marine as were two of my unlces and a couple of cousins. He spoke spanish fluently and was served our country from Lebanon to Vietnam.

My father trained Cubans near Ft. Myers in the 60's and fought while on TDY in Central and South America. When Kennedy visited Dallas, he didn't bat an eye. He hated him for cutting loose the men he helped train.

There is no "Hispanic" race. That's a myth that the dems and the MSM have sold to the majority of this country. The immigrant from Cuba has nothing in common with the peasant farmer worker from Guatemala or the photographer from Argentina. The Colombian journalist or police officer that made up Los Pepes have nothing in common with current Cuban journalist or Mexican cops.

He never allowed us to be labeled as a "hypen American", cause he said that all the blood he ever saw from his men was red. The only difference I grew up knowing was the difference between officers kids and enlisted mens kids.

There are lazy, welfare sucking leeches that are hispanic (insert country of origin) just like there are white trash POS that live in 'Frisco, Chicago and Kansas cooking meth and humping their cousin.

My 4 kids have Irish and Mexican blood. The one in college read Atlas Shrugged, gave a report on the Road To Serfdom and picked up a nasty habit for shooting skeet and pistols. My other ones are also labeled "hispanic" by the high school and middle school because of me. Guess what? The make fun of the science teachers yapping about Global warming and "diversity".

The "hispanics" from Texas that have been here since the 1800's like my mother's family or came over during the revolution in the early 1920's like my dad's are pretty conservative. They go to church, fought in our armed forces (6 uncles and many other cousins), run schools, work as nurses, doctors, lawyers, and are mixed just like Italians, Germans, Poles, and the rest.

Your rant about pandering to hispanics is correct. The Republican party shouldn't or advocate any "group" or "race" based policies, but on PRINCIPLES of limited government. I heard my father and one of my liberal aunts argue and he told her that if she wanted to suck off the government nipple and have schools taught in spanish all she had to do is look at how the American Indian and African-American turned out as opposed to the Chinese, Japanese, Jewish and German immigrants. One set let the government "take care" of them, the other group was also discriminated against but flourished.

You may not know any conservative "hispanics" but I know a lot of them. If you're going to "kick them out of the party" or make their inclusion in your "tent" a pain in the a##. Well you're going to have a tough time winning any elections in Texas my friend. "Hispanics" make up about 35% of the population. If they vote en masse with African Americans in Texas, about 15% .... well you're getting the picture.

Remember the MSM and the libs want to divide us. We need to fight on principles together against the liberal pukes and not based on the fact that I like menudo, tortillas, chorizo and barbacoa, while you like.... whatever it is you like.

38 posted on 02/26/2010 7:24:56 AM PST by erman (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: Little Ray

Just among conservatives I know I can think of 6 or so who are hispanic, in the US and not native born - none fit your template. Some are citizens, others are on their way, others were just here temporarily. I can think of many other people I’ve known or met briefly who are living in central or south America who are conservative. I’ve also met a few hispanics from many places who are liberal, some radically so.

Anecdotes aside, suppose you are correct in your assessment. Should their votes be sought with different speeches? Should we appeal to conservative US citizens of hispanic origin with a different ‘conservative message’ than we use for other conservative US citizens who have different ancestries or nations of birth? If so, how would those messages differ? Should we hyphenate conservative ideas?


39 posted on 02/26/2010 7:25:11 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: John-Irish

Agree, ask the lame stream media, until they die it will be this way. Or they are replaced — which is happening right now.


40 posted on 02/26/2010 7:27:21 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Tarpon

Yes and come April we’ll be treated to a whole month of racial and cultural chauvinism because April is “Hispanic Heritage Month’’. I can’t wait. First though we have to get through March. March is “Womens History Month.’’


41 posted on 02/26/2010 7:32:11 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

Their media parrot is rapidly disappearing.


42 posted on 02/26/2010 7:35:18 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: posterchild

I’m really, really glad to hear that.

I’m just going by the ones who married into the family. They don’t identify as “hispanic” (but look it) and their ancestors probably helped Sam Houston kick Santa Anna’s butt.

In any case, can ANY group looking for racial spoils really be courted by conservatives? Either they attracted by conservative principles or not. If we court them by race, we’re abandoning the conservative principle of a color blind society for the Left’s “identity politics.”

Also, if a group is so lost to the concept of national sovereignty and the rule of law that they support illegal immigration, can we really court them?


43 posted on 02/26/2010 7:37:14 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: kabar
¡Oígame, lo siento mucho, pero así es como lo es! For all practical Federal government worker purposes, such as Affirmative Action, the working definition of "Hispanic" is largely (but not completely) based on skin color. The appropriate approximate hue being that of a brown paper grocery bag, which of course, varies from store to store.

But, Chileans, Argentines, and Spaniards will find themselves automatically on the outs. Penelope Cruz, Xavier Bardem, even with a great tan? Fuggedaboutit. Oddly enough, white Cubans and Puerto Ricans are OK with the bureaucraps. Mexicans, Central Americans? No Problem. White Colombians, Venezuelans? possible problem. Bolivia? No Problem. Ecuador? No Problem. Peru? Could be a problem.

Go figure. And do bring the grocery bag.

44 posted on 02/26/2010 7:38:29 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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To: MamaTexan

I agree. People who self identify as conservatives will be drawn to conservative ideas regardless of their ancestry. People who don’t consider themselves as conservatives won’t care for those ideas regardless of their ancestry. It’s all about the individual and this group catering crap is just a waste of energy.


45 posted on 02/26/2010 7:40:18 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: Tarpon

Do you really think so? I do get the feeling that the lame stream media might finally realize that “The One’’ is just a pile of gold-plated, long-winded crap and their carrying water for him is starting to look like the equivalent of journalistic fellatio. Lets hope so.


46 posted on 02/26/2010 7:42:40 AM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: posterchild
I've always reasoned that anyone who risks his life to get into the USA has a yearning for freedom and opportunity - not necessarily big government handouts.
47 posted on 02/26/2010 7:43:52 AM PST by Dansong
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To: Little Ray

Agreed.


48 posted on 02/26/2010 7:49:30 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: All

Wasn’t there just a story yesterday regarding a poll where Hispanics self-identified as conservatives to the tune of 60 percent?


49 posted on 02/26/2010 7:50:28 AM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
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To: John-Irish

Look at the polls, the influence of the tea party, which is nothing but denigrated by the lame stream media, we are breaking free ... ABC news announces 20% staff cut, which looks like the first step towards disposal sale. The tipping point approaches.

I think electing BHO was the lame stream media’s Waterloo.


50 posted on 02/26/2010 7:50:59 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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