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Morning Bell: Someone Needs to Tell the President His Health Care Plan is Dead
Heritage Foundation ^ | 2-26-10 | Conn Carroll

Posted on 02/26/2010 8:55:44 AM PST by kingattax

The day before yesterday’s White House health care summit, Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) told reporters: “The only way this works is for the House to pass the Senate bill and then, depending on what the package is, the reconciliation provision that moves first through the House and then comes here.”

When Conrad was reminded that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has repeatedly insisted that the House will not pass the Senate bill until the Senate passes a second bill that fixes the first, Conrad replied: “Fine, then it’s dead.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; gophealthcare; heritagefoundation

1 posted on 02/26/2010 8:55:44 AM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

If he does, somehow, get this bill through, he may be looking at a revolution in this country.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 8:57:41 AM PST by RC2
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To: kingattax

I don’t trust them.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 8:58:30 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: kingattax

First Zombie banks........now maybe Zombie health care bill? Obummer is the voodoo king.


4 posted on 02/26/2010 9:00:40 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Help support a sustainable America for tomorrow. Go green by recycling Congress.)
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To: RC2

How can you hope to reason with a man who excuses whatever he does with the childish retort, “because I’m the President”?


5 posted on 02/26/2010 9:00:47 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: kingattax

I dont believe the Kenyan has any thoughts of the House and Senate combining their bills. He has produced his own, and I believe intends for them to cut and paste it to an appropriations bill that has nothing to do with Health care, and then pass that as a reconciliation bill.

Is it legal? I suppose anything the majority of the Congress say’s is legal, will pass and then go to the Supreme Court.
Is it right and Just? Havent seen those words mentioned.

Should we take to the streets? If it is passed we should go to Washington and stop being friendly.


6 posted on 02/26/2010 9:03:38 AM PST by Venturer
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To: kingattax

Cue Bones: “It’s dead, Barack.”


7 posted on 02/26/2010 9:04:23 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: kingattax

my guess is they fail to get enough House Dems to drink the Kool Aid and they fall back to some minimalist bill (tweak anti-trust law, cover “children” to age 26, etc) that can pass and declare victory. Not good but I’ll take it over a Public Option.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 9:04:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: kingattax

9 posted on 02/26/2010 9:05:58 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: July4

You don’t “reason” with someone that is out to destroy this country and your freedoms. You kick him out of office.


10 posted on 02/26/2010 9:06:06 AM PST by RC2
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To: kingattax
Someone Needs to Tell the President His Health Care Plan is Dead

Please don't tell the socialist usurper that this particular effort to destroy our country is dead. (1) I want him wasting his time on this rather than finding something almost as destructive that might pass. (2) I want the voters to see the amazing level of contempt that today's Dem leaders feel for "ordinary" people.

11 posted on 02/26/2010 9:06:20 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: kingattax
The President seems to understand that the American people do not want bureaucrats in Washington controlling their health care decisions, but then he seems completely oblivious to the fact that increasing bureaucratic control at the expense of every American’s ability to make their own choices is exactly what his plan does.

Textbook definition of living in denial.

12 posted on 02/26/2010 9:07:32 AM PST by w_over_w (The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.~ Albert Einstein)
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To: kingattax

If we are going to be saved from this, we will be saved by the Constitution. The House has to pass this legislation first, because Article I, Section 7 states that all revenue bills shall originate in the House of Representatives. The Senate “may propose or concur with amendments,” but revenue-raising legislation cannot originate in the Senate. Health-care reform, as practiced by the Democrats, is all about raising taxes. Its chances for passage in the House don’t look all that good, at this point.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 9:07:50 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: kingattax

Unfortunately, Obama refuses to sign a DNR order, so even though this patient quite obviously is deader than a doornail, there will be weeks more of futile efforts to resuscitate it.


14 posted on 02/26/2010 9:08:39 AM PST by DrC
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To: OB1kNOb

Obama is Mugabe 2 and America may become a combo or Zimbabwe and the USSR after it imploded.

The Russians could not afford their space program after the USSR went belly up. Sound familiar?

Sadly - our fate may be worse. Uneducated Russians are usually more intelligent then most American college grads.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 9:09:49 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: RC2
If he does, somehow, get this bill through, he may be looking at a revolution in this country.

At some point there will be a revolution as our rights are taken away.
16 posted on 02/26/2010 9:15:02 AM PST by crosshairs
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To: RC2
If he does, somehow, get this bill through, he may be looking at a revolution in this country.

Don't believe there is enough guts left for this to happen.

17 posted on 02/26/2010 9:17:07 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: kingattax; All

Note to Obama: What goes up must come down ...

18 posted on 02/26/2010 9:21:44 AM PST by Lmo56
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To: RC2
This is like a football game. It is in the middle of the second quarter and because of fumbles by the President's team they are behind 30 to zip.

It's already too late to try to play catch up through good sound decisions, so the only options left are the Hail Mary pass and onside kicks.

Just like in a football game, this tactic rarely succeeds, and usually causes the game to become even more lopsided.

Coach Obama would be better of trying to just stay in the game till halftime (mid-term elections) and come out in the second half with a new roster and a better plan.

19 posted on 02/26/2010 9:22:03 AM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Pollster1
(1) I want him wasting his time on this rather than finding something almost as destructive that might pass. (2) I want the voters to see the amazing level of contempt that today's Dem leaders feel for "ordinary" people.

Right. the best political outcome is for them to continue to try to pass it and continue to flail about in doing so.

At the same time, it is very worrying that they MIGHT be able to pull this off. For the sake of the country I hope they just give it up.

20 posted on 02/26/2010 9:27:33 AM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Pollster1

“Someone Needs to Tell the President His Health Care Plan is Dead.”

“Please don’t tell the socialist usurper that this particular effort to destroy our country is dead. (1) I want him wasting his time on this rather than finding something almost as destructive that might pass. (2) I want the voters to see the amazing level of contempt that today’s Dem leaders feel for “ordinary” people.”

Yes, this is a good stragegy. I would guess this arrogant fool has fawning minions licking at his heels, keeping the ‘plan’ bright and within reach ever in his mind.


21 posted on 02/26/2010 9:33:20 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: July4
"How can you hope to reason with a man who excuses whatever he does with the childish retort, “because I’m the President”? "

As soon as he uttered those words, I said..."he has LOST the argument."

When a person has to resort to "pulling rank", they have lost the debate and gone to their only "out"...the bully option.

He may be on the books as "president", but he'll never be THE President.

But, I believe that he as done one, good thing for America...he has awakened her; he is showing that the minute we rest our vigilance, the moment we let ourselves lose sight of what it really takes to have FREEDOM, evil forces can move in very swiftly.

If we ever get him out office, think that far into the future we will be ever more vigilent for his brand of government and politics, and sound the National Alarm if it ever rears its ugly head again.

America cannot survive in a "far left" mode; far-left control means no Freedom, and we - as a people - don't take kindly to our freedoms being taken away...especially since our Constitution says it shall not be taken away.

I'm pretty sure obamacare is dead, but it's their shining jewel, and they'll get even sneakier, and play even dirtier to get it done.

They seem to be and unstoppable force, but they've first got to get it past the immoveable wall....us.
22 posted on 02/26/2010 9:41:06 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Venturer
Should we take to the streets? If it is passed we should go to Washington and stop being friendly.

Yes Yes Yes!

23 posted on 02/26/2010 9:43:29 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: WOSG

All depends on the House. If they are determined to proceed with reconciliation, Reid can afford to lose and protect 9 RAT votes.


24 posted on 02/26/2010 9:52:51 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: kingattax

Conrad is an idiot. If the House passes the Senate bill, then hello - both houses have passed the bill so the senate bill will go to the president to be signed into law!

Do you really think the dumbcrats are going to try to pass a third reconciled bill when they have the senate bill passed in the house? No way, it will be a done deal.

That has always been the ONLY option. Wreckanciliation is just a threat, nothing more. Everything hinges on the house. If they don’t pass the senate bill, 0zer0care is dead!


25 posted on 02/26/2010 10:16:26 AM PST by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Soylent Green Healthcare)
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To: kingattax

It's dead, Jim.

26 posted on 02/26/2010 10:57:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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