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City removes trash cans, streetlights to save cash (Bring your own trash bags!)
CNN ^ | Feb 25th, 2010

Posted on 02/26/2010 1:34:16 PM PST by TaraP

Colorado Springs, Colorado (CNN) -- If you come to a neighborhood park in Colorado Springs, plan on bringing your own trash bags.

To save money, the city has removed the trash cans.

Need to catch a bus? Don't try on evenings or weekends. The city has cut that service, too.

And when the sun goes down, Colorado Springs is going to look a little bit dimmer. City crews are removing every third streetlight to save money on electricity and light bulbs.

Other governments are considering higher taxes to avoid such cutbacks, but in the state of Colorado, there is a taxpayers' bill of rights. It prevents state and city governments from raising taxes unless such a measure is approved by the voters.

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1 posted on 02/26/2010 1:34:16 PM PST by TaraP
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2 posted on 02/26/2010 1:34:51 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: TaraP

Not well known but an excellent golf-destination city.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 1:37:31 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Freepmail me to get on the Bourbon ping list.)
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To: TaraP
City crews are removing every third streetlight to save money on electricity and light bulbs.

Are the removing the whole structure or just the bulbs?

4 posted on 02/26/2010 1:39:28 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: TaraP

They will do anything to make life miserable for the those that pay while at the same time doing nothing to inconvenience those on the dole.


5 posted on 02/26/2010 1:40:36 PM PST by 1raider1
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To: Red_Devil 232

Bulbs....

Dead grass, dark streets

But the 2010 spending choices are complete, and local residents and businesses are preparing for a slew of changes:

- The steep parks and recreation cuts mean a radical reshifting of resources from more than 100 neighborhood parks to a few popular regional parks. The city cut watering drastically in 2009 but “got lucky” with weekly summer rains, said parks maintenance manager Kurt Schroeder.

With even more watering cuts, “if we repeat the weather of 2008, we’re at risk of losing every bit of turf we have in our neighborhood parks,” Schroeder said. Six city greenhouses are shut down. The city spent $19.6 million on parks in 2007; this year it will spend $3.1 million.

“If a playground burns down, I can’t replace it,” Schroeder said. Park fans’ only hope is the possibility of a new ballot tax pledged to recreation spending that might win over skeptical voters.

- Community center and pool closures have parents worried about day-care costs, idle teenagers and shut-in grandparents with nowhere to go.


6 posted on 02/26/2010 1:41:16 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: TaraP

To think the Tesla experiments were conducted there. Just saying...


7 posted on 02/26/2010 1:41:58 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: 1raider1

The city government has no creditability when it comes to the wise use of our money. I wonder if they’ll turn off the street light in my yard?


8 posted on 02/26/2010 1:43:19 PM PST by Taylor42
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To: TaraP

And how many union city/state employee jobs are they cutting? Oh, right...those people are far too IMPORTANT!


9 posted on 02/26/2010 1:47:01 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: TaraP
“If a playground burns down, I can’t replace it,”

WHAT?!?!

10 posted on 02/26/2010 1:51:40 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Hey Cletus,
Try Martin, St.Lucie or Palm Beach Counties in Florida.
Best courses, and ya can play year round without using orange golf balls in the snow.


11 posted on 02/26/2010 1:56:15 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Liberals hate children.


12 posted on 02/26/2010 1:56:56 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: TaraP

1970s all over again. Reminds me of my childhood. I can’t wait to see this happen in NYC where whole sections of Central Park were fenced closed and filled with junk. Yippee.


13 posted on 02/26/2010 1:57:35 PM PST by DesertConservative
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To: Joe Boucher

Tourist traps with sand traps. Had my fill of those types long ago.

Now, I look for out of the way destinations that don’t try to attract you with glitz...just good, fun golf. Ever been to Wichita?


14 posted on 02/26/2010 1:58:10 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Freepmail me to get on the Bourbon ping list.)
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To: Drill Thrawl
It's a big problem. People setting vacant lots on fire. When the smoke clears, there's nothing but office buildings left.

Once that happens, the only place to play is the public swimming pool. But if that burns down, they're really in trouble.
15 posted on 02/26/2010 1:58:29 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Proud Member of the Teeth Party Movement)
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To: Drill Thrawl
“If a playground burns down, I can’t replace it,”

WHAT?!?!

Sound like a threat.

16 posted on 02/26/2010 1:58:37 PM PST by 1raider1
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To: Steamburg
To think the Tesla experiments were conducted there.

That would explain the playgrounds burning down.
17 posted on 02/26/2010 1:59:37 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Proud Member of the Teeth Party Movement)
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To: 1raider1

Like the “long hot summers” they like to whine about.


18 posted on 02/26/2010 2:03:11 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: TaraP

Cut one bureaucrat and you could pay for all this stuff. It’s a gimmick. Tim Kaine thought closing rest areas would get Va taxpayers to support a tax increase. It didn’t work.


19 posted on 02/26/2010 2:03:19 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TaraP
City crews are removing every third streetlight to save money on electricity and light bulbs.

I bet the spacing of the light posts and the lumen rating of each light bulb were selected based on the Colorado State Building Code... I wonder how long it will be before they are putting the bulbs back in the lamp posts?

20 posted on 02/26/2010 2:03:53 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: RockyMtnMan

Yes they do. NOW and NARAL will vouch for that.


21 posted on 02/26/2010 2:04:16 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: TaraP

This is a very old game. I’ve worked in the public sector (education, health) and I know that huge dollars could be saved and nobody would notice, which is why they don’t get saved. The standard response to budget cuts is to cut back on the things that people will notice, in an effort to produce a backlash.


22 posted on 02/26/2010 2:09:18 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

The best golf round I ever enjoyed was some club in SC that was so cheap/new that they didn’t even have a proper clubhouse, just a prefab unit with a bar. I was there as someone’s guest about ten years ago, all I remember is that it was less than an hour from Augusta, GA.


23 posted on 02/26/2010 2:11:44 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

yep,
Stayed in the best hotel in town adn I wouldn’t sent my dog back there.
Try Indianwood, Indiantown.
No one there.
Or the Okeechobee golf and contry club.
No one there and you play with balc eagles watching.
Very nice courses.
Personally I play tree golf at my airpark.


24 posted on 02/26/2010 2:14:12 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: Squawk 8888

CS residents are too stubborn and smart to fall for that crap. I clean up trash that I see when I’m in the parks and if I see someone littering they’ll get an earful. Many of my co-workers are the same way, it’s a mentality that many people share here.

There are the “other” people that move in from other states that don’t understand the rules and have to be brought up to speed. Maybe the city will wise up and stop wasting money on non-essentials and all this non-sense will end.


25 posted on 02/26/2010 2:18:09 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: TaraP

"You can cry about the fiscal situation ... or you can take it as an opportunity to change, reinvent yourself and innovate and that's what were going to do in Colorado Springs," City Councilman Sean Paige said...."We put it on the ballot last fall, and they said 'no,' " said Paige, a Republican. "They declined to write the city a blank check, and they said, 'City, tighten your belts. We're tightening ours. You need to do the same.'

Refreshing POV.

26 posted on 02/26/2010 2:21:02 PM PST by elli1
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To: TaraP

Most of the flunky bureaucrats in local government are there to steal taxpayer money and process the cash, after skimming off a few million for salary, benefits, graft and embezzlement.


27 posted on 02/26/2010 2:24:38 PM PST by sergeantdave
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“The city’s garbage collection, zoo and philharmonic are all privately funded.”

So why are city crews removing trash cans from parks? Even if garbage collection wasn’t private, the efforts needing to go into litter collection would not be offset from removing trash cans... They’ve already bought the cans, removing them won’t do anything!


28 posted on 02/26/2010 2:29:16 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: TaraP
If you come to a neighborhood park in Colorado Springs, plan on bringing your own trash bags. To save money, the city has removed the trash cans.

Given human nature, I think this is a distinctly BAD idea. The parks will look like garbage dumps.

29 posted on 02/26/2010 2:52:29 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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Too bad...growing up in CO, Springs is one my fave cities.


30 posted on 02/26/2010 2:59:27 PM PST by bjorn14 ("The Constitution is a fundamentally flawed document..." -Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.)
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To: upchuck

That’s the idea. Do things that inconvenience people so that they will not be happy.

Personally, I wish they’d take down a streetlight out by my parent’s place. Interferes with stargazing.


31 posted on 02/26/2010 4:31:45 PM PST by BenKenobi (And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.)
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To: TaraP
Need to catch a bus? Don't try on evenings or weekends. The city has cut that service, too.

Evenings or weekends? Our service went to zero.

If you're waiting for the next bus... you have a very long wait. If you should live so long.

32 posted on 02/26/2010 7:00:04 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: TaraP
City crews are removing every third streetlight to save money

B-b-b-b-b-ut Think About Going Green! Saving Energy! Reducing CO2 Emissions!!

They should go Totally Green and remove every lamp in the city!!!!!

33 posted on 02/26/2010 7:03:24 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: elli1
>>Refreshing POV.
 
From a Socialist wolf in Libertarian sheepskin?  
 
 
Dreaming of Milk and Apples?
 
 
 
Paige is just parroting/pandering in response to the sentiment we Colorado Springs citizens declare in refusing to extend the City Council's no-limit credit card when we killed Measure 2c last November.
 
Paige likes to wrap himself up in the libertarian / TABOR (TAxpayer Bill Of Rights) flag - but where the $$ hits the river - he changes his tune:  Councilman Paige advocates public funding, via mandatory raised water rates, of the SDS (Southern water Delivery System). 
 
The SDS will benefit Colorado Spring's government-owned Utility Enterprise; and it will directly benefit Developers who, without SDS, can not build more McHouses in the same market where the Colorado Springs Housing authority already owns >350 properties.   The CS Housing authority is managed by Paige's fellow Colorado Springs City Council member, Larry Small.
 
PUBLIC housing?  
Daaaang, pretty swanky, ehh?
 
 
Now, is that more consistent with Libertarianism - OR - with Socialism?  Hmmm.
 
 
When Colorado Springs Government Utility/Enterprise wants to expand its infrastructure, all it presently has to do is get a rubber stamp from Paige and the other puppets on the city council.  That's a violation of the spirit of TABOR in the same way the Utility Enterprise's "Storm Water" fees were a violation. (We killed the Storm Water BS along with 2C last November)
 
If Councilman Paige was truly supportive of TABOR, he would simply advocate allowing the people of Colorado Springs to decide for themselves whether or not our financial resources should be used for the expansion of Government-owned Enterprises.... but, he doesn't.
 
Paige also advocates in favor of the Colorado Springs "medical" dope sellers.   Stoned and stupid sheeple easier to fleece, perhaps?
 
 
So....
 
Quack, Waddle... Councilman PIGGIE!
 
and remember "NO SLEEPING IN BEDS IN THE FARMHOUSE"  err {edit} "WIF SHEETS!".

34 posted on 05/02/2010 9:44:35 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; TaraP

>>Are the removing the whole structure or just the bulbs?

The structures are still there.

As, evidently, are the City maintenance crews.


35 posted on 05/02/2010 9:46:15 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

[And how many union city/state employee jobs are they cutting?]

Yep.


36 posted on 05/02/2010 9:48:49 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Oldpuppymax; Red_Devil 232; TaraP; elli1; Cletus.D.Yokel; 1raider1; Taylor42; Drill Thrawl; ...
>>there's nothing but office buildings left.
 
Yep - Empty ones...
 
I wonder if the same sheeple will get stuck holding the securitized bag for developing that Commercial Real Estate...
 

 
...as got stuck holding the bag full of securitized Sub-Prime A$$Paper that presumably helped build lots of these:



???
 
And they want to raise our water rates so they can build MORE of them?   
 
What wrong with that picture?  Is that how TABOR is supposed to work?  Hmmmm...
 
 

37 posted on 05/02/2010 10:12:17 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: 1raider1

cutting bus service?


38 posted on 05/02/2010 11:03:28 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
>>there's nothing but office buildings left.
 
Empty or not, they're still liable for property taxes.
 
This empty canary in the local coal mine, for example... which has never been occupied since completion:
 
 
Table Use Code 2010 Market Value 2010 Assessed Value Exempt
Land OFFICES 872071 252900
Imp OFFICE 7184817 2083600
  Total Value $ 8056888 2336500  
http://land.elpasoco.com/ScheduleDisplay.aspx?schd=6412402005
 
 
Wonder who's picking up / bailing out that tab?

39 posted on 05/02/2010 12:05:03 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: TaraP

Street lights are a huge waste of money and energy....

Good for Colorado....


40 posted on 05/02/2010 12:06:45 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: TaraP
“If a playground burns down, I can’t replace it,” Schroeder said. Park fans’ only hope is the possibility of a new ballot tax pledged to recreation spending that might win over skeptical voters.

- Community center and pool closures have parents worried about day-care costs, idle teenagers and shut-in grandparents with nowhere to go.

If a playground burns down? What? Has one ever burned down in the history of the Springs?

Daycare costs aren't the taxpayer's responsibility. And I grew up in Colo. Springs back when there were no community centers. We weren't idle because we had chores and played with friends in the neighborhood. Why does the government owe us all fun?

41 posted on 05/02/2010 12:13:40 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: dragnet2

I heard on the radio the other day that a person can sponsor a street light for a few dollars. Beats having taxes raised by hundreds of dollars.


42 posted on 05/02/2010 12:16:01 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: TaraP
Of course they wouldn't think of cutting some administrators pay, or firing a bunch of useless government workers. This is typical of liberal government actions. Make things as rough on the ordinary citizen as you can and hope they will scream to have their taxes raised.

They should let the citizens of this city go through the budget items and ax the ones they think are unnecessary, not what the government wants to cut.

43 posted on 05/02/2010 12:16:33 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Joe Boucher; Cletus.D.Yokel

As long as you’re shilling, Aiken County, SC has world class golf courses. A lot of them. Folks retire here just for the golf.

Once a year, just across the Savannah River in Augusta, GA they have a small golf event called The Masters.

Lotsa golf around here. Horses, too.


44 posted on 05/02/2010 12:26:51 PM PDT by upchuck (FYI: Our government is now being run via fortune cookies.)
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To: TaraP
To save money, the city has removed the trash cans.

Which will encourage littering. Duh!

I wonder if they considered trying to get volunteers to go empty the trash cans once a week or so?

45 posted on 05/02/2010 12:29:01 PM PDT by upchuck (FYI: Our government is now being run via fortune cookies.)
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To: TaraP

send trash back to mexico!


46 posted on 05/02/2010 12:29:02 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: upchuck

lol...go for it pal!


47 posted on 05/02/2010 12:31:22 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: calex59
[They should let the citizens of this city go through the budget items and ax the ones they think are unnecessary, not what the government wants to cut.]

They is We, and such a mandate could be enacted via an initiative but... Any suggestions as to how this kind of Citizen participation would be physically implemented?
48 posted on 05/02/2010 2:46:23 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: dragnet2
I agree, if I want light I'll wear my headlamp I use when hiking or adopt a light. As for safety, I'm a CCW holder.
49 posted on 05/02/2010 3:00:18 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: dragnet2
>>Good for Colorado....
 
Colorado Springs
 
The rest of the state is generally still scurrying along, unimpeded, toward Californization - with uncontrolled McGrowth and the increased dependencies upon government that come with it.
 
 
Colorado Spring's limited access to water is thus a blessing in disguise - it  creates a temporary opportunity for citizens to stop and think:  "can our city really afford, to grow?" 
 
Unfortunately, the ability of We The Citizens to utilize that opportunity is hamstrung by the corrupt political environment here in "Little Chicago".... Where all that's required to grow government-controlled infrastructure is a rubber stamp from the City Council ala increased "fees" levied via government owned enterprises.
 
Securing funds for capital improvements via these "Fees" is a blatant circumvention of the spirit behind TABOR - our Tax Payer Bill of Rights; but this fact is evidently irrelevant to our City Council, and irrelevant to the Apparatchik Elite pulling their strings.
 

50 posted on 05/02/2010 3:37:03 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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